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  • Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

    This will be a general over view of both principles please feel free to post on your opinions of both sides

    |PROTESTANT / MESSIANIC|

    1-The Old and New Testaments are the only sources of Christian doctrine.
    2-We are justified (saved) by faith alone, not by good works. Good works will result in greater rewards in the afterlife but have no effect on getting saved. This "faith" means relying on Jesus' sacrifice as full atonement for our sins and trusting in God enough to try to live as he said to live. It is not mere intellectual belief in a set of facts.
    3-Purgatory is totally unscriptural. Christ's sacrifice on the Cross was the only offering necessary and the only offering sufficient to provide salvation.
    4-"Mortal" sin is an extent of sin, a pervasiveness of sin, sinning as a way of life, sinning as a regular practice, not a single sin, regardless of how serious that sin might be, e.g., murder.
    5-Only God can forgive sins.
    6-The Holy Spirit is Jesus' representative.
    7-The pope speaks for no one.
    8-It is clear from scripture that there was no "head" apostle in the New Testament churches. Paul expressly and publicly rebuked Peter, the alleged first pope, on one occasion. There is no biblical or historical evidence that Peter was ever the bishop of Rome.
    9-Mary had children by Joseph. Jesus' brothers are expressly named: Joseph,. James, Simon, and Jude.

    |CATHOLIC|
    1-Sources of doctrine include:
    Certain papal declarations
    Bishops in conjunction with the pope
    Old Testament
    New Testament
    Apocrypha (some additions to the Bible)
    Catholic Church Tradition
    Catholic interpretation of the Bible
    2-When a person gets baptized his "original sin" is forgiven and God gives him some grace. This grace enables him to do good works. God appreciates the good works and rewards them with more grace. Because the Christian has more grace, he can now do even better works. This pleases God even more, so He gives even more grace, etc.
    3-There are two types of punishment after death: temporal (temporary) and eternal. If a person dies with just one "mortal" sin on his soul he will be condemned to Hell for eternity. If he dies with only "venial" sins on his soul he will be sent to Purgatory, perhaps for millions of years.
    Purgatory is exactly like Hell except that it doesn't last forever. Eventually, the person will be released and enter heaven.
    4-There are two types of sin: mortal and venial.
    A particular sin is either mortal or venial, depending on the severity. (For instance, stealing one dollar from a rich man would probably be a venial sin.)
    5-Catholic priests have been given the power to forgive sins, acting as representatives of the Holy Spirit.
    6-The pope is Jesus' representative on Earth.
    7-The pope speaks for all Christians.
    8-Anyone who denies the authority of the pope despises the one who (allegedly) appointed him (i.e., Christ) and therefore despises the one who sent Christ, (i.e., God the Father).
    9-Mary remained a virgin her entire life. The Greek word can mean either "brother" or "close relative." The Bible is talking about Jesus' cousins, not brothers.
    I hope i got all of them

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    Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

    Dear Fool;

    This is called the INTRODUCTION section of the forum for a reason. It's not the "cut and paste" section, nor is it the debate section.

    If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

    Please make an INTRODUCTION here, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

    And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

    I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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    • #3
      Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

      Oh sorry my bad i did not know il move it to the debate section

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      • #4
        Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

        Originally posted by rocky the chink View Post
        Oh sorry my bad i did not know il move it to the debate section
        First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

        Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

        Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .
        Who Will Jesus Damn?

        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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        • #5
          Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

          Could you please point me to the normal forums?

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          • #6
            Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

            Originally posted by rocky the chink View Post
            Could you please point me to the normal forums?
            We're True Christians(tm). We are as normal as normal gets, pal.

            Give us your testimony. What false church do you attend?
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • #7
              Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

              Bethel baptist institutional church my good friend

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              • #8
                Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

                But i also used to be a catholic therefore my knowledge of catholic tradicions

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                • #9
                  Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

                  Well, the answer is quite simple: God is right, and true God followers (like us here) are right. Everybody else is wrong.

                  Why are you here anyway? Are you just another newbie who '"knows" everything and wants to educate us? Hope not.

                  If you are here to repent, good. Start reading now!
                  Aspiring Proverbs 31 woman.
                  Praise !

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                  • #10
                    Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

                    How do you know you are truly followings god's command?.And yes i am newbie that wants to educate all of you since most of you are inbred hicks oh and god bless you

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                    • #11
                      Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

                      Originally posted by rocky the chink View Post
                      Oh sorry my bad i did not know il move it to the debate section
                      I'm still waiting for you to move this thread to the debate section.

                      Oh, what's that? You don't have the power to do so? And there is no such section?

                      Quite a rude little awakening you've had, yes? Well friend, don't be too hard on yourself. God has got to bring you to your knees before you'll open up and drink in His golden love.

                      Let's just think of this as your first stumbling step toward the path of righteousness.

                      Tell us, how long have you been Chinese, and how has this affected your walk with Christ?
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                      • #12
                        Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

                        Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
                        Quite a rude little awakening you've had, yes? Well friend, don't be too hard on yourself. God has got to bring you to your knees before you'll open up and drink in His golden love.
                        Are you hitting on me??

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                        • #13
                          Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

                          Originally posted by rocky the chink View Post
                          Are you hitting on me??
                          Ah, I see that you're using humor to deflect the conversation away from a topic that makes you uncomfortable. Your salvation is no laughing matter, friend. The sooner you start being genuine with us, the sooner you can get right with God.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Protestants or Catholics -- Who Are Right?

                            I see you are already! Will pray for you anyway! True Reality is still awaiting!
                            Aspiring Proverbs 31 woman.
                            Praise !

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rocky the chink View Post
                              How do you know you are truly followings god's command?.And yes i am newbie that wants to educate all of you since most of you are inbred hicks oh and god bless you
                              Wow! Another atheist pretending to be a Christian so as to troll and mock God. How original. How unusual for that sort of person to be an opinionated blowhard.
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