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  • #31
    Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

    Originally posted by Marshall View Post
    Foul idiot.
    Little children are NOT babies. They are little children meaning older than toddlers. Certainly old enough for their parents to have explained the eternal horrors of Hell and for the child to have accepted Jesus in a binding agreement and profession of faith in the Lord Almighty via a real Baptism in a real river or stream sanctified by a real Pastor. I'm guessing 5 years old. You can't lay hands on an unborn baby unless you are advocating abortion.
    That reminds me of this one time, back when I was unsaved...actually, on second thoughts, I don't think anyone really wants to hear this story. Nevermind.
    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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    • #32
      Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

      I want to hear it!

      Were you perhaps a Brother in one of our fine religious orders?
      ACTS 5:29
      But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
      There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?

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      • #33
        Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

        Babies are born with the tendancies of demons. They scream, flail, defecate and urinate all over themselves. Essentially they lack basic self- control. It takes years to get the child to a position where they gain control, through the teachings of the Bible(tm), a firm hand, and lots of guidance from elders. I can't see any child under the age of 8 being at a level of understanding to really know who Jesus is and accept him. This means they go straight to hell.

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        • #34
          Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

          Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
          That reminds me of this one time, back when I was unsaved...actually, on second thoughts, I don't think anyone really wants to hear this story. Nevermind.
          Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
          I want to hear it!

          Were you perhaps a Brother in one of our fine religious orders?
          Then you admit that the "brothers" in your "fine religious orders" are actually unsaved? Perhaps I was too harsh; there may be hope for you yet.
          This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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          • #35
            Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

            Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
            And according to you, babies go to hell!
            Just a thought - when Augustine said unsaved babies went to Hell, was he wrong or right? Did God somehow change His mind about what to do with unsaved babies at some point between Augustine's times and today?
            O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



            God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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            • #36
              Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

              Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
              Just a thought - when Augustine said unsaved babies went to Hell, was he wrong or right? Did God somehow change His mind about what to do with unsaved babies at some point between Augustine's times and today?
              "Hell" wasn't always used as the place of the damned. It was just used as the place of the dead, which we called "limbo" before we abolished it.
              ACTS 5:29
              But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
              There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?

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              • #37
                Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

                Originally posted by Joh View Post
                Babies do go to heaven.

                Jeremiah 1:5
                5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, [and] I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
                Why don't you look at the last part:
                I ORDAINED THEE A PROPHET UNTO THE NATIONS.
                So is everyone ordained a prophet unto the nations?
                Certainly NOT.

                God is speaking to ONE person here, not in general, not about everyone.
                This however, is a general statement, Praise God!
                How then can man be justified with God?
                Or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
                Job 25:4


                Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
                "Hell" wasn't always used as the place of the damned. It was just used as the place of the dead, which we called "limbo" before we abolished it.
                Thanks for admitting the fallability of cathylick belief.
                Keep it coming.
                Last edited by SalvationSeeker; 09-21-2007, 09:03 PM.
                If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
                A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
                Proverbs 9:12-13

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                • #38
                  Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

                  Plenty of unBaptized, Unsaved babies in Hell.
                  And homosexuals.
                  God bless America, the Second Amendment and the Constitution. God bless the United States Marine Corps and all who fight for Jesus in third world cess pools. God bless the GOP and all they stand for, Truth, Honesty and the American people. God bless Landover Baptist Church and all True Christians™ the world over. Curses to our Muslim President, his failure is our Salvation.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

                    Originally posted by Marshall View Post
                    Plenty of unBaptized, Unsaved babies in Hell.
                    And homosexuals.
                    Shout GLORY!!
                    Who Will Jesus Damn?

                    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                    • #40
                      Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?



                      You said this
                      Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
                      "Hell" wasn't always used as the place of the damned. It was just used as the place of the dead, which we called "limbo" before we abolished it.

                      I heard this
                      Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
                      <Like a good papist I'm making stuff up 'cause it's not in the bible>
                      What does God's Word say about babies going to Hell? Open our bibles to Romans 9 "21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

                      22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:". Last I checked babies resemble little vessels of wrath.

                      In His Grip,

                      Assoc. Pastor Jon B., father of three (and a daughter)
                      Ezekiel 23:19-20 "Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt.
                      For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses."

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                      • #41
                        Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ?

                        It's really simple. All you have to ask is:

                        "Did they or did they not accept as their personal and ?"

                        For as it is written:

                        Psalm 51:5
                        Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

                        John 14:6
                        Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
                        Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
                        Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

                        Babies are far too busy gluttonously guzzling formula or, worse yet, incestuously suckling milk from their mother's bosom to even think about gorging themselves on that most toothsome of delicacies - Sweet Savior Blood and Savory Messiah Flesh.

                        John 6:53-54
                        Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
                        Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

                        Thus, dead babies burn in hell for all eternity.
                        II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                        And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                        In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                        Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power
                        The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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