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View Poll Results: When God named the stars He did not give them idiotic names no-one can pronounce. We demand that
Stars should have decent American names 28 100.00%
Star names should be changed to numbers such as 1, 2, 3, etc. 2 15.38%
Stars should not be named and all existing names should be revoked 15 100.00%
NASA, Caltech, JPL and the like should be closed down 86 100.00%
Stars should be named after Biblical figures 28 100.00%
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Default We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 11:34 AM

When God named the stars He didn't give them unpronounceable names like
..Zubenelgenubi,
....Zubenelhakrabi and
......Zubeneschamali.

These are set in the firmament forming a pattern thought to resemble a beam-scale. They need re-naming with better words like
..scales 1
....scales 2
......scales 3
or other more appropriate names like let's face it there's nothing appropriate about a name like Zubenelgenubi.

Answers please in brief format for these and other ridiculous names which I can include as part of a lobby group to remove false science from school curricula and have decent names for stars to point out as examples of God's majesty in Creation.
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Bible Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 12:02 PM

I think that there are some that are still appropriate.

Job 9:9
Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.


Any unmentionables should be taken as apocryphical, i.e., highly suspicious and probably harmful. So I vote for the removal of all star names unnamed by God.

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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 01:17 PM

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....Zubenelgenubi ...
Is that some sort of joke? They might as well call it Obiwankernobi or Voldemort. I don't know what to vote, though. I can't really see any reason why the stars need names at all, except for the ones God named.


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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 03:13 PM

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When God named the stars He didn't give them unpronounceable names like
..Zubenelgenubi,
....Zubenelhakrabi and
......Zubeneschamali.

These are set in the firmament forming a pattern thought to resemble a beam-scale. They need re-naming with better words like
..scales 1
....scales 2
......scales 3
or other more appropriate names like let's face it there's nothing appropriate about a name like Zubenelgenubi.

Answers please in brief format for these and other ridiculous names which I can include as part of a lobby group to remove false science from school curricula and have decent names for stars to point out as examples of God's majesty in Creation.
Agreed. We should take away all of the foreign sounding star names. We certainly do not need an Aldebaran on the sky.

We already do have an alternative star naming system - Alpha Tauri instead of the aforementioned Aldebaran, and Alpha Librae instead of Zubenelgenubi, for instance. This is a relatively logical naming system (as it orders stars in a constellation from the brightest to the dimmest), although I'd suggest to change names such as Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, etc to A, B, C, D, etc, to make it 100% logical and relying on the alphabet instead of the Greek atrocity.

While we're at it, we should rename the constellations, too. Maybe we could rename Orion as Trump?
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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 06:57 PM

The Gods will punish you if you try to rename the sacred stars.


Rom.1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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The Gods will punish you if you try to rename the sacred stars.
Please, do explain, using appropriate Scripture:

1. Which stars are "sacred?"
2. Who are the gods you are referring to?

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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 09:00 PM

This is a great idea!

Instead of the star Saturn, we could call it Jesus.
Instead of the star Jupiter, we can call it God.
Instead of Venus, we should call that star Mary.
Instead of the disgusting Uranus, we can call it Peter.


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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 09:18 PM

I have no objection to naming the stars, but why is it necessary to give names to flashing lights in the firmament? The streetlight near my house is more useful on a day to day basis and it has no name, as far as I know.


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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 09:25 PM

Whatever we do, we should not use names like "Zubenelgenubi" that were either assigned by mooselimbs or translated into mooselimb from names assigned by boy-touching Greeks. We might as well call them things like "Satan," "Beelzebub," "Belial," and "Hillary Clinton."


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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 09:59 PM

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Whatever we do, we should not use names like "Zubenelgenubi" that were either assigned by mooselimbs or translated into mooselimb from names assigned by boy-touching Greeks. We might as well call them things like "Satan," "Beelzebub," "Belial," and "Hillary Clinton."
Indeed Pastor, why would we ever use transliterations from the Greeks for something as important as names?


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Jesus' eternal love Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-02-2017, 11:15 PM

The only "star" I care for is named Kirk Cameron.


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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-03-2017, 01:47 AM

Thank you for those comments and suggestions.
In the historical record we have Job challenged by his "friends" who make a number of idiotic statements. God comments:


JOB 42 . KJV . look up . context
7b
My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.


Job had mentioned Arcturus, Orion and the Pleiades which God confirms are things spoken of Him that are right.
Amos also refers to Orion but just uses a number (seven) for the Pleiades.


JOB . KJV . look up
9:2b How should man be just with God?
7-9 Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars. Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.


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5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name


In both cases a connection is made with God's control of the sun and of meteorology.
Pastor Jones has reminded me just how dumb those superstitious astrologists are.
"Venus," they say "is Jesus!" but did I start blanching? No. I read The Bible.
I will just post two passages here, they're self explanatory really but in case an astrologist is reading a brief note will be appropriate in this case.


REVELATION . KJV . look up . more
22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12-15 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16-17a I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride [us] say, Come.

REVELATION . KJV . look up . more
2:26-28 [Jesus speaking] He that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star.


What is this star Jesus promises? Is it Venus?
Clearly it is not Himself because we already have Him.
So I turned to an epistle of Peter:


II PETER . KJV . look up
1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place until the day dawn and the day star arise in your hearts:


These are not cunningly devised fables. These are the simple words of God recorded for us by people having neither incentive nor aptitude for cunning or fables. Indeed cunning fables are what they were getting away from. And here we have a simile. The word of prophecy granted to every Christian is compared to a light. It is like a light shining in a dark room and it comes from Jesus so that we will know not to despair when we see evil, such as astrologists, prowling around doing blogs enticing us to worship the stars. This anticipation reaches its climax in Revelation when evil is annihilated forever.

Jesus enabled this to happen and by re-naming Venus as Mary we commemorate His birth and our deliverance from odious temple cults which need no description here.
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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-03-2017, 05:44 PM

What a wonderful idea, we have a very long list of saints to use as a replacement names for the stars.

http://www.catholic.org/saints/stindex.php


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What a wonderful idea, we have a very long list of saints to use as a replacement names for the stars.

http://www.catholic.org/saints/stindex.php

You eye-talions need to keep your fake, satanic religions out of the Godly USA and simply await the flames of hell that will engulf all of you one fine day. If we are going to rename stars, we should use Sister Mitzalor's logical idea or meld it with Brother Levi's in some way.


I can see a father and son sitting on a warm summer day, looking up at the firmament, and the son says, "Daddy? What's that star over there?" The father smiles, tousles his son's hair, and says, "Why, that's the star Mahershalalhashbaz. And right next to it is the star Jonathelemrechokim. Over there - just to the left of that maple tree where we buried your dog - is Chushanrishathaim.


All fine, Biblical names we as Americans can be proud of. Oh, that more fathers and sons can have conversations like this on warm summer nights instead of having to answer questions about s-e-x and how to change the bearings on a 2006 Cruze. Then the boy can get back out in the fields and earn his keep until he takes a wife and sires soldiers for Jesus.


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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-03-2017, 06:26 PM

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What a wonderful idea, we have a very long list of saints to use as a replacement names for the stars.

http://www.catholic.org/saints/stindex.php
According to that heathen Neil DeGrass Tysson, two-thirds of all the stars in the sky have Arabic names. According to him, the reason it's important to have an edge on discovery is because forever more, the honor belongs to the discoverer. Furthermore, once discovery and exploration and innovation are suppressed, a culture has never regained the leading edge, cutting their chances for world domination. Well, he doesn't say world domination, but we know this is God's plan for mankind (Genesis 1:26). He says when revelation replaces investigation, progress comes to a halt. I think that's only true when putting one's trust in a false revelation, but I digress.

I think it's imperative to rename the stars, but not after Catholic mythology. This is no more honoring to Christ, the creator and interior designer of the firmament, than the homo-Greek or piss-drinking Arabic names. Once again, Catholics miss the mark and reveal themselves to be trying to kiss their god's ass.

For this reason, I pray President Trump assigns someone in charge of renaming the stars, as well as renaming and redesigning the numbers we use. It's no secret they are referred to as "Arabic numerals." In addition, I pray we as a nation do away with the math called "Al-gebra," itself an Arabic word, and any mathematics discipline that requires knowledge of this abominable subject, such as calculus or trigonometry.




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For this reason, I pray President Trump assigns someone in charge of renaming the stars, as well as renaming and redesigning the numbers we use. It's no secret they are referred to as "Arabic numerals."
This has long worried my boys, Sister. The only immediately obvious and familiar alternatives seem to be either the so-called Roman numerals (I need say no more about those) or some sort of binary system of counting. The latter would at least be in accordance with Genesis 1:27.

Another advantage of the binary system is that it discourages non-binary attitudes and pretty much ensures that those who pretend to be pan-sexual are totally out of the loop, at least as far as the study of math is concerned. I mean, who wants a pervert as a tax accountant?


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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-03-2017, 07:14 PM

White people have stolen all of the names of the stars just like they have taken everything else. Some stars should be named for the very many illustrious Black men who have been discriminated against. There is no star named for Marcus Garvey or Bob Marley or even King James IV of Scotland who was a Black man. Dr. Martin Luther King who was a Black man killed by white people has no star named for him. White people suppose that just naming a street after Dr. King in every city in Babylon will be enough while they deny him a star. Every night when a Black man walks outside and looks up all he sees is more evidence of white racism.


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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-05-2017, 04:02 PM

The stars should be named after glorious Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-suk, Kim Jong-il and other great Korean heroes.


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I like this one. If change "the LORD thy God" to the spirit of Juche and "the land of Egypt" to Japanese imperialism, then it can be used to metaphor Korea's struggle against the Western powers.
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The stars should be named after glorious Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-suk, Kim Jong-il and other great Korean heroes.

We could name a star "North Korea", so that long after North Korea stops burning and the people of Earth have forgotten what North Korea was, we can see the star "North Korea" glowing in the night.


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Default Re: We need to rename the stars - 04-08-2017, 10:53 PM

I like the idea of Basilissa.
Rename all constellations not mentioned in the Scripture to Godly American presidents, like Trump, George W Bush, Reagan, Nixon and Jefferson Davis. God made Cassiopeia shaped like a "W" to remind us to name it George W Bush.
And ditch the Greek letters for ordering stars from brightest to dimmest, use the NATO phonetic alphabet instead, so we get stars like Alfa Nixon, Bravo Reagan, Charlie Trump and Delta George W Bush (instead of the jihad name Rukbat) and Echo Davis. Revoke star names for stars dimmer than the 26th in each constellation.
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