[Born Again Kev]

Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing

Look, either believe in science or believe in the bible, but to say that evolution is supported by the bible is one of the dumbest claims I've ever heard.
The bible makes NO REFERENCE to species EVOLVING out of other species. That's what evolution is. I don't think you have any idea what evolution actually is or, for that matter, what you're talking about. What you were saying was not talking about evolution, merely timeframes.
And the bible is clearly talking about FOUR CORNERS OF EARTH, not four dimensions.

Those were two separate arguments. The four dimensions was an analogy to show what it would be like to tell an ancient person that the Earth is round and you can't fall off of the edge.

Face it, the bible and science are clearly incompatible. And you've only made yourself look foolish.

As to your age, I figured as much. I believe you've visited the forum before, haven't you, Kevin?

Yes. I'm quite famous 'round these parts. My mischief has merited its own board!

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

I shouldn't waste my time since you've already lied to us and to Jesus about your age, claiming to be 18.... Anyways, I don't think that you can say anything about four dimensions and four corners and try to link them together with a straight face. Such attempts at science are a slap in the face of God. For shame!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Originally Posted by Born Again Kev

Those were two separate arguments. The four dimensions was an analogy to show what it would be like to tell an ancient person that the Earth is round and you can't fall off of the edge.

I know the analogy, a similar one can be made by saying that if you put an ant on a balloon, to that ant, the balloon will appear infinite as it walks round and round it, whereas we see the balloon as it truly is.

But the point is, the bible and science do not support each other. The bible and the creation theory in there was written by men, men who at the time had no knowledge of science, and that explanation to them seemed as likely as any.

I'm not here to tell anyone what to believe (More to point out biblical flaws to the landover baptists), I'm actually Pagan, but I'm merely pointing out that; with regards to the physical evolution of life on Earth, either look at it one way or the other way, but to say that the two support each other is like trying to mix oil and water. You can try, but the two just won't mix.

Yes. I'm quite famous 'round these parts. My mischief has merited its own board!

So I see.

[Born Again Kev]

Originally Posted by Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.

I shouldn't waste my time since you've already lied to us and to Jesus about your age, claiming to be 18.... Anyways, I don't think that you can say anything about four dimensions and four corners and try to link them together with a straight face. Such attempts at science are a slap in the face of God. For shame!

Meh. That's just a formality to get approved to the boards. I've openly admitted to my age on many occasions. Besides getting past the filter, I have no problem with telling you how old I am.

[Enobarbus]

Originally Posted by Born Again Kev

Meh. That's just a formality to get approved to the boards. I've openly admitted to my age on many occasions. Besides getting past the filter, I have no problem with telling you how old I am.

There is no "filter". You simply acknowledge -- if you read the TOS which you never have properly, it seems -- that you are 18 or older. And we make it plain that the board is not suitable for those under 18. Which, if you think about it, makes a mockery of some of your complaints, doesn't it?

It is true that many false religions attempt to reconcile evilution and the Bible, but, of course, they fail miserably. One notion is that there is a great gap between Genisis verses one and two, during which time evolution occured.

Pure nonsense, of course. Such idiots will -- all the Boy-buggering Maryworshipers included -- will burn in hell.

[SalvationSeeker]

Six days? What does this mean? Let's dwell on that, shall we? Now, who created the universe? God, of course. Who wrote the Bible? God, of course. So from what vantage point is the story of creation told? God, of course. Now if the top of Mt. Everest represented God and the center of the Earth represented man, the distance would still not be enough. God is infinitely better than us. So, is it possible that He, not being on Earth, does not tell time by Earthly standards? What are billions of years to God? They could be as if they were only six days. The Bible and evolution don't contradict, after all.

So you're saying that God, who indeed is infinitly better than us (and thus must know everything!):
DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A DAY IS?

Your argument is utterly retarded, both biblically and logically..
ENJOY HELL, mormon!

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Born Again Kev

WHAT THE ****?!? I would like to state on behalf of the Catholic Church and her members, that said "relic" is not believed to be real by the Church or any of its sane members. Also, even if it was, WHO WOULD WANT THAT?!?

You are an ignorant fool. Read the article. Do you know the first thing about Catholic idolatry? Are you going to deny their age-old practise of worshipping relics? And who wouldn't want it? Do you think there is something disgusting about Jesus?

[OnYourKnees]

Six days? What does this mean? Let's dwell on that, shall we? Now, who created the universe? God, of course. Who wrote the Bible? God, of course. So from what vantage point is the story of creation told? God, of course. Now if the top of Mt. Everest represented God and the center of the Earth represented man, the distance would still not be enough. God is infinitely better than us. So, is it possible that He, not being on Earth, does not tell time by Earthly standards? What are billions of years to God? They could be as if they were only six days. The Bible and evolution don't contradict, after all.

So Kev, what you're saying is:

God wrote the Bible for humans to read, yes? He's omniscient, knowing all past, present, and future, and so would not need a written record for Himself. It's not as though He had to file taxes and needed receipts for Creation expenses, correct?

God decided, in His infinite Wisdom, to say that He created something in six measures of time called "days" which to Him, were not actual "days" but actually millions of Earth years.

So, by your logic, God decided to write "millions of Earth years" as "days" in order to confuse humans and deceive them. Sound about right? If not, what other explanation could there be?

God didn't know what a day was?

God didn't directly guide the Bible's writers, and knowingly and intentionally allowed them to spread false doctrine?

God's watch kept stopping, so He lost track of time?

Other (fill in the blank)?

Originally Posted by Born Again Kev

Stop looking at this literally.

OK. How do you decide which parts of the Bible are to be taken literally, and which are not? Are you God?

The Bible says it's God's Word. I guess you think only part of it is God's Word, and that you have the ability to discern which is and which is not!

Did you notice that the days progress in the order that evolution occurred? God did make it all, He just did it over a longer amount of time.

And your source for this theory is what? Your imagination? The Pope? Father Feelgood? The Great Teachings of MOM?

In regards to the four corners of the Earth statement, it's an expression. It does not literally mean the Earth has four corners. People use the expression all the time today. Also, you need to factor in that these people barely knew much outside of immediately surrounding Asia, Africa, and Europe. To flat out say that the world was round to such a primitive people would be to ensure that everyone thought you to be a lunatic and did not believe anything you said.

So . . . when God wrote the Bible, He was concerned that people -- His creation -- would think HE was a lunatic? In order to avoid such an outcome, you're saying He once again lied in the Bible, to intentionally deceive people?

OK, so God told people the world was flat, even though He knew better, and told His people to go burn at the stake anyone who denied it. Yeah, that sounds like a just and honest God. Perhaps you just think God has a really sick, sadistic sense of humor, and likes to watch people be tortured to death, and then tortured in Hell for eternity?

Tell me, when He played His practical joke on Abraham (hey, go sacrifice your kid to me . . . PSYCHE!), do you think Abraham thought He was perhaps a bit touched in the head? Yet God wanted that recorded in His Word.

No, I don't think your argument holds water. God's not concerned how His creation perceives Him!

It would be as if I told you that the world actually exists in four dimensions, but you can't notice it. They would put me in an asylum and discredit everything I've said. In regards to age, I shall be 15 in February.

Everything you've said has attempted to discredit the Bible. You prefer to listen to Mom and Father Feelgood and the Pope in Rome than God's Word, which sits there on the shelf gathering dust.

Meanwhile, your arguments have no logic and are indefensible, as I've shown above. YOU discredit your own words.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Glory!