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Post Discuss: Existence of God. - 09-26-2010, 07:57 PM

Excuse me but something has been bugging me. How can you prove God's existence? Without using what the bible says that was written in 1611? Please try and enlighten how you can prove Gods existence. Either way. so such answers along the lines of "cuz dis book sez so." Does not count please try and actually have a real discussion over this instead of Calling me a heathen piece of scum. I made my choice to become Atheist you made yours to be a true Christian. To a God that may not exist?
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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 09-26-2010, 08:29 PM

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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 09-26-2010, 09:19 PM

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How can you prove God's existence? Without using what the bible says that was written in 1611?
That is stupid. That is like saying, prove the sun exists without using the sun. The Bible is proof God exists!


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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 09-26-2010, 09:21 PM

Atheists always asks the same question and they always LOOSE
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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 09-26-2010, 09:21 PM

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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 09-28-2010, 07:50 AM

I do not understand, my heathen friend. Did the internet run out of Atheist forums? Were you hoping to sway true believers from the path of righteousness with your obviously well-thought out and informative logic?

I suppose common courtesy is beyond Atheist capabilities, simply because it was JESUS who said:

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." Matthew 7:12
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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 09-28-2010, 08:02 AM

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Excuse me but something has been bugging me. How can you prove God's existence? Without using what the bible says that was written in 1611? Please try and enlighten how you can prove Gods existence. Either way. so such answers along the lines of "cuz dis book sez so." Does not count please try and actually have a real discussion over this instead of Calling me a heathen piece of scum. I made my choice to become Atheist you made yours to be a true Christian. To a God that may not exist?
The Bible says God is real, the Bible was also written by God. If God doesn't exist why did man write a real book about him? I've already covered this topic so please read my thoughts on it here.
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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 09-28-2010, 10:27 AM

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Excuse me but something has been bugging me. How can you prove God's existence? Without using what the bible says that was written in 1611? Please try and enlighten how you can prove Gods existence. Either way. so such answers along the lines of "cuz dis book sez so." Does not count please try and actually have a real discussion over this instead of Calling me a heathen piece of scum. I made my choice to become Atheist you made yours to be a true Christian. To a God that may not exist?
How about you try proving God does not exist by using the King James Bible.


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Excuse me but something has been bugging me. How can you prove God's existence? Without using what the bible says that was written in 1611? Please try and enlighten how you can prove Gods existence. Either way. so such answers along the lines of "cuz dis book sez so." Does not count please try and actually have a real discussion over this instead of Calling me a heathen piece of scum. I made my choice to become Atheist you made yours to be a true Christian. To a God that may not exist?
I am sorry that you are so bugged by The Truth. You however are the only one who can change that and perhaps by opening the KJV1611 and reading The Truth, you will not longer be bugged.

Also, I find it interesting that people come in here, to a Christian Forum no less, wanting to discuss things other than Jesus and the KJV1611.

I can assure you that I for one would not go into a secular science forum for example and ask them to prove certain sciency things exist without their books of reference. Or perhaps I SHOULD go in and start a thread called "existence of the quark" and get them to prove it and say no you can't use your science book, I want EVIDENCE and "cuz diz book sez so" does not count.

How do you reckon the science nimrods would go then, Mr Rocksinyourhead.

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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 10-01-2010, 01:39 AM

For me, the Christian God is the only explanation for why anything exists at all. Things do not will themselves into our natural world; everything has something that came before (in nature). Therefore, nature itself must something that came before it, something that is not bound by nature's rules (seeing as He created it). I believe that the Bible offers the best explanation.

Either way, if you study logic, philosophy, and/or nature enough, you cannot conclude that there was never a supernatural element in nature's manifestation.


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For me, the Christian God is the only explanation for why anything exists at all. Things do not will themselves into our natural world; everything has something that came before (in nature). Therefore, nature itself must something that came before it, something that is not bound by nature's rules (seeing as He created it). I believe that the Bible offers the best explanation.
Oh indeed it does! Although I do wonder why GOD created tapeworms and pubic lice; what purpose did they have in the Garden of Eden? As the Biblical timeline states, Creation was completed prior to The Fall, so we cannot say that the awfulness of said creatures was a corruption due to The Fall.

Perhaps tapeworms and lice and whatnot were better behaved in Eden ... the lice lived unobtrusively in Adam and Eve's nether regions, for example?


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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 10-01-2010, 03:51 AM

Who can know such things? Certainly not anyone alive today. I would suppose that they offered something beneficial to furred animals and their infestations of humans was part of the punishment, but that's just a guess.


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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 10-01-2010, 05:43 AM

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Oh indeed it does! Although I do wonder why GOD created tapeworms and pubic lice; what purpose did they have in the Garden of Eden? As the Biblical timeline states, Creation was completed prior to The Fall, so we cannot say that the awfulness of said creatures was a corruption due to The Fall.

Perhaps tapeworms and lice and whatnot were better behaved in Eden ... the lice lived unobtrusively in Adam and Eve's nether regions, for example?
Mrs Rogers,

I was having a thought about the lice and other types of mites etc.. Of course this is only my thoughts on the matter, but as Adam and Eve did not have bathtubs or showers back then (well they aren't mentioned in the bible so I am just assuming) the mites and lice could have been God's way of helping them stay hygienic and clean, by them eating flaked skin and whatnot.

Yes a gross thought but as EVERYTHING was created by God, there must be some positive purpose for them.

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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 10-01-2010, 08:00 PM

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Mrs Rogers,

I was having a thought about the lice and other types of mites etc.. Of course this is only my thoughts on the matter, but as Adam and Eve did not have bathtubs or showers back then (well they aren't mentioned in the bible so I am just assuming) the mites and lice could have been God's way of helping them stay hygienic and clean, by them eating flaked skin and whatnot.

Yes a gross thought but as EVERYTHING was created by God, there must be some positive purpose for them.

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Since I work in the medical field, I would like to bring this article up.
http://www.sixwise.com/Newsletters/2...od-For-You.htm

It states that
Lice actually help your immune system
Intestinal worms help our bodies deal with inflamation

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Your immune system is actually designed to distinguish between dangerous invaders in your body and its own body cells, but when it mistakenly identifies self proteins for non-self proteins, it initiates an attack on its own body, causing either an allergic response or worse -- autoimmune diseases such as arthritis, asthma, diabetes and multiple sclerosis.

In a study involving wild mice, researchers found a key component to helping the immune system function naturally and therefore potentially reduce the risk of developing immune dysfunctions. What is that beneficial component?

Parasites, particularly lice.

Lice to the Rescue?

According to a study published in the open access journal BMC Biology, louse Polyplax serrata (a form of lice), could help lessen a hyperactive immune system and reduce the risk of developing immune dysfunctions.

“Much like laboratory mice, people in developed countries are currently exposed to a very different profile of infections to that encountered by their ancestors,” said Jan Bradley, professor of parasitology at the University of Nottingham in a Science Daily article.

In fact, other beneficial uses for parasites have also recently been uncovered. For instance, researchers are exploring the use of a cocktail of worm eggs to help reduce the symptoms of multiple sclerosis (MS).

Worm Eggs -- A New Remedy for MS

Doctors are at the beginning stages of testing “worm egg mixers” in MS patients in hopes that it will act as another alternative to fighting the degenerative disease.

Another study already showed that the consumption of the worm eggs, also known as helminthes, has proven effective in the treatment of inflammatory bowel disease.

“Because it is a very natural approach, it takes a few weeks until it can unfold its full mode of action to show considerable improvements,” said Detlev Goj, CEO of Ovamed in an ABC News article. “However, this is something we are happy to accept in exchange for lacking such severe side effects most conventional medicines have.”


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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 10-01-2010, 08:48 PM

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That is stupid. That is like saying, prove the sun exists without using the sun. The Bible is proof God exists!
I beg to differ..

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Default Re: Discuss: Existence of God. - 10-01-2010, 09:21 PM

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Nice try Ahmad but we have already presented scientific PROOF of God's existence. The Universe needs a creator and by definition GOD is that creator. Since Islam postdates Christianity that means Islam is a copy of Christianity so therefor Allah couldn't of created the universe.



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