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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 05-29-2018, 12:01 PM

Trust me, it's round. We've known that for about 2500 years, and we've had very accurate measurements of its curvature for about 300 years. We also have pictures of the Earth from space. And we've sent multiple expeditions to Antarctica, and there's no "edge" there.

Also, there's no other way of explaining the stars of the Southern Hemisphere; the midnight sun in Antarctica; and the time it takes to fly between different Southern Hemisphere countries.


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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 05-29-2018, 01:19 PM

Here is my question: why do you look for natural truth in a book that is meant to give us spiritual truths? The bible is not a science book. God gave us eyes, ears, mouths, hands, brain and whatnot to perceive the world and the command the subdue it (Genesis 1:28). We have the capability to observe and study nature ourselves. What we can not is perceive God and spiritual matters, which is why God granted us revelations of things He deemed necessary for us to know.

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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 05-29-2018, 03:21 PM

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Trust me, it's round. We've known that for about 2500 years, and we've had very accurate measurements of its curvature for about 300 years. We also have pictures of the Earth from space. And we've sent multiple expeditions to Antarctica, and there's no "edge" there.

Also, there's no other way of explaining the stars of the Southern Hemisphere; the midnight sun in Antarctica; and the time it takes to fly between different Southern Hemisphere countries.
Put it this way. If we've known the Earth has been flat for 2500 years as you’ve stated, we've done a really poor job of measuring the curvature.

The only proof of curvature we have are some fake photos from NASA which are demonstrably false, and all the text books parroting what "we've known for so long", without real proof.

If you read Genesis , you can clearly see God made TWO great lights, the Sun and Moon, not trillion suns and trillion moons in trillion galaxies.

Also he made DOME over earth.

The Earth could have very little curve but it is indeed in circle shape and flat overall.

Globe believer will not take the evidence even though you try to show them so don't bother about them. Most of them are suffering from homersexualism or beating wife syndrome.

You see when a wife who rejects Jesus is beaten by a non-Christian husband she is lying to herself that her husband loves (unlike the wife of a Christian who should rejoice in a manly man who engages in Christian Domestic Discipline) her and won't divorce him because of children and because of her imaginary perfect family live she was always dreaming of (a Christian woman would work hard to identify WHY she is being beaten and take steps to modify her behaviour to preserve the marriage- not for her sake but out of devotion to what Jesus wants).

But if she had divorced her husband she would completly ruin her dreams of having nice family so she would rather pretend nothing is happening and would put on black sunglasses so other people don't see her beaten face rather than telling truth and seeking help from police and friends .

Likewise globe believers invested 12-15 years of study in schools and their degrees, not only the time invested but 98% of graduates are in debt or homersexualised into secular submission. They would not be able to look in thier own face in mirror when they saw that they have been lied by schools for such long time and are deep in debt because they were scammed or anally subjugated.

They would rather keep believing lie than get the truth because they would become suicidal and depressed. Some go to the extreme that they believe there is car in space right now . It's like 260 celcius that close to the sun as it wizzes around us, up there.

That's why you can see evidence or do tests yourself (read the whole tread to see proof) but even if you show the results to globe believer they will deny it and call you uneducated fool invoking some magic force of gravity which is clearly not working due to lack of 98% of energy if it even existed.

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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 05-29-2018, 03:28 PM

Gravity Denial?

Okay, now I've heard everything.



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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 09-25-2018, 02:51 PM

Experiment 1) Inertia - the reason we dont move when we jump in the air is because our bodies are moving relatively to the earth. Using your same experiment if you are on a plane that is at cruising speed and altitude and you stand up and jump you dont end up at the back of the plane.

Experiment 2) Mass - while the balloon is much bigger it doesnt have enough mass to produce a gravitational pull on the price of paper. There are different ranges of gravity do to different conditions on different planets.


Experiment 3) Vantage point while yes you can see more you cant see any farther and this also disproves flat earth as if you take off at night and the sun is supposedly only 500 miles above the earth. If the earth were flat and you are in a plane 30000 ft above the earth you would be able to see the sun and moon at both time and it would be obvious that the circle the earth parallel to each other.
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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 09-25-2018, 04:20 PM

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If the earth were flat and you are in a plane 30000 ft above the earth you would be able to see the sun and moon at both time and it would be obvious that the circle the earth parallel to each other.
Um, I often see both Sun and Moon at the same time, from here on Earth (that happens quite regularly, every month, actually - when the Moon rises up during the day), so your argument seems to be invalid.
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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 09-25-2018, 04:42 PM

True it does happen it is usually at dawn and dusk but never at night. So it's not as invalid as you think it would be. Cause if you are flying over all obstructions and clouds, according to the flat earther you would see both the sun and the moon but that isnt possible because the sun is behind the earth.
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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 09-25-2018, 04:59 PM

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True it does happen it is usually at dawn and dusk
And equally often at late morning, early afternoon, or any other time of day. (Which is why solar eclipses don't occur exclusively at down or dusk, but at any time).

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If you define "night" as "the part of the 24 hr period when Sun is invisible," then duh - obviously, you cannot see both Sun and Moon at the time when, by definition, Sun is not visible!
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So it's not as invalid as you think it would be. Cause if you are flying over all obstructions and clouds, according to the flat earther you would see both the sun and the moon but that isnt possible because the sun is behind the earth.
I'm not entirely sure what you point is?

This is how it looks on days when Moon is not visible during the day:



And then the reverse happens during Moon-lit nights.
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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 09-25-2018, 05:51 PM

This is from one of you church goers that says it circles above us. Second to the last comment. And that is also the most commonly accepted flat earth representation of how the sun circles the earth.
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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
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Neither one of those models work for a flat earth.
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Neither one of those models work for a flat earth.
Wow, you certainly make a powerful argument! How about explaining why, exactly, you think they don't? Feel free to use your own models, bearing in mind that by "your own" I mean your own. Had you bothered to read this thread before butting in so rudely (where exactly IS your introduction thread, by the way?) then you will find that we have seen it all before.

I notice that you haven't addressed Sister Basilissa's rebuttal of your sloppy claim:

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True it does happen it is usually at dawn and dusk but never at night. So it's not as invalid as you think it would be.
(I assume by the "you" in "not as invalid as you think it would be" you mean you, i.e. FATZO18, not us?)

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And equally often at late morning, early afternoon, or any other time of day. (Which is why solar eclipses don't occur exclusively at down or dusk, but at any time).
(By the way, Sister Bas dear, my boys did a project on this over the summer and concluded from their carefully recorded data that - at least during June - the moon was visible in the sky during daylight hours pretty much as often as it was not. They didn't mention that the sun was never visible at night. Perhaps I should have marked them down and punished them for not stating the obvious? )


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Wow, you certainly make a powerful argument! How about explaining why, exactly, you think they don't? Feel free to use your own models, bearing in mind that by "your own" I mean your own. Had you bothered to read this thread before butting in so rudely (where exactly IS your introduction thread, by the way?) then you will find that we have seen it all before.

I notice that you haven't addressed Sister Basilissa's rebuttal of your sloppy claim:



(I assume by the "you" in "not as invalid as you think it would be" you mean you, i.e. FATZO18, not us?)



(By the way, Sister Bas dear, my boys did a project on this over the summer and concluded from their carefully recorded data that - at least during June - the moon was visible in the sky during daylight hours pretty much as often as it was not. They didn't mention that the sun was never visible at night. Perhaps I should have marked them down and punished them for not stating the obvious? )
Well Joanna, in the picture that sister Basilissa posted it represents the sun over the disc and the moon under it and vis versa with respect to being day or night. And it is a known fact that when it is night in the Western hemisphere it is daylight in the Eastern hemisphere. So that can be possible with said picture and same with James animation that he posted. I did bother reading the pastors initial thread of the 3 experiments that he conducted. In no way was I rude at any moment. And yes the moon can be out during daylight but when was the sun out during night?
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Experiment 1) Inertia.
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Experiment 2) Mass
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Experiment 3) Vantage point

"Inertia," "mass," and a self-centered approach to the world are all common dogma and rituals associated with the religion of secular science, also called Evolution. You might consider becoming a freethinker and learn to think for yourself. Don't blindly regurgitate what has been taught to you since infancy. The truth is out there for those who seek it (John 14:6).




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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 09-25-2018, 09:58 PM

Mary how am I regurgitating anything they are proven facts. If you are in a bus that is traveling 70mph and you jump you dont go flying all the way to the back of the bus. And the vantage point argument is valid as well. I have flown quite a few times and and several times at night and never have I seen the sun and the moon traveling in a circle over the earth at the same time. Now mass that one is harder to prove. But where is your rebuttal for anything I have put?
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So that can be possible with said picture and same with James animation that he posted.
Well, at least you agree with the animation posted by Brother James Hutchins, so I see some progress here. Well done!

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I did bother reading the pastors initial thread of the 3 experiments that he conducted.
I assume you mean you just read the initial post. You missed my point, which was that you are too lazy to read the entire thread - every single one of your queries has been covered, repeatedly, along with many, many more.

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And yes the moon can be out during daylight but when was the sun out during night?
Thank you for clearing that one up for us. I'm sure anyone who thought otherwise is massively grateful. Did anyone - apart from you - even suggest it as a possibility?

And, to repeat my question, where is your Introduction thread?


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Sorry Joanna for the typo it was supposed to be cant be possible. Sorry I didnt read all the posts there.
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yes the moon can be out during daylight but when was the sun out during night?
I'll try again.

Sun cannot be out during the night because on Earth, we define "day" as the part of the 24-hour time period when Sun is visible and we define "night" as the part of the 24-hour time period when Sun is not visible.

Now, if you want to see a 24-hour period without any night in it, I invite you to the Antarctic in December. Depending on the correlation between the Sun cycle and the Moon cycle this year, you might see the Moon at some point of the 24-hour long day. (I haven't checked, though).


EDIT: I checked, and the Moon will be visible the whole 24-hour days during the first half of December in the Antarctic. Hence, both Sun and Moon will be visible all the time chasing each other in the sky.

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Default Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - 09-25-2018, 11:30 PM

I agree with you on that fact and that there is 24 hours of sunlight and night time at the arctic circle as well. And that is do to the poles tilting more towards the sun at their respective times. But what I'm trying to convey is flying over North America at night if it were a flat earth you would be able to see both sun and moon.
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I agree with you on that fact and that there is 24 hours of sunlight and night time at the arctic circle as well. And that is do to the poles tilting more towards the sun at their respective times. But what I'm trying to convey is flying over North America at night if it were a flat earth you would be able to see both sun and moon.
We already covered this. If you are flying at night you cannot see the Sun, because the night is defined by the absence of the Sun.
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