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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 02:47 AM

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[...]BTW I do nothing for Satan as he is an imaginary character Christians borrowed from other religions.[...]
Just how were there any "other religions" before the Earth was created?
Is not Satan mentioned in
1Ch:21:1: And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
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Job:1:6: Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job:1:7: And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job:1:8: And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?





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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 03:06 AM

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Just how were there any "other religions" before the Earth was created?
The earth is billions of years old not 6,000.

Hinduism is older than Judasim and both predate Christianity.
Various forms of Paganism are much older than that.

Have you studied any other religions or just the bible?
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The earth is billions of years old not 6,000.
Could you prove that, please?

Chapter and verse. Thanks!
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Hinduism is older than Judasim and both predate Christianity.
Various forms of Paganism are much older than that.
What proof do you have of these things?

Christianity has been around for 2,000 years. Judaism for 4,000 years before that. Adam and Eve were the first people, and the first Jews.

Prove that your Hinduism (never mentioned in the Bible, for some odd reason) existed before God made the world.

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No he called me a mooselimb and by the tone of this forum I'm sure he was referring to terrorist type when he said it.
Sister Jenny brought up the other point I wanted to make, but didn't cover this strange statement. Are you implying that there are Mooslims who aren't terrorists?


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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 05:25 AM

The age of our planet is irrelevant. Did god create a baby or a man? If the earth were created by God, then he created it to be a full grown earth. IF. The bible has many truths in it, and is all truth, for it exists. It is created as we are created, and creation is the founding point for all existence. Its hard to dance around this one until people pull their head out of their arse, but ill go ahead and say it anyway. This will be way over your bounds of reasoning, but here it goes. Multiple dimensionalism. There are levels of exsistence beyond merely our physical universe.

This is proven by nuclear physics: there are 4 parts to an atom: the electron (protons, neutrons) the graviton, the weak nucleus and the strong nucleus. Creating one singular nuclei. When the four parts are split, all the above can be physically traced with the exception of the graviton. Upon losing track of the graviton, they made a mathematical formula to trace the graviton: to their surprise, they found that the graviton transcends this form of existence and attaches itself to the next dimension. After doing the problem several times over, it became conclusive that there are multiple dimensions.

So is the world a sphere? Absolutely. Is it flat? Most certainly! The 2nd dimension is the round flat blueprint that the third dimension of matter and form replicates in actual shape! So your both right, but on different pages. Both of you are thinking on physical terms, in which case freethinker is right. But as for the earth is flat man, he is right in a way he doesn’t understand himself. Hes thinking physical therefore he is wrong, but the concept of earth being flat is only true in alternative dimensions that we are a byproduct of.
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The bible has many truths in it, and is all truth.
Nice to see another Christian! I was beginning to think the rest of the world was made up loonies-- the sort of people that read a couple of books and think they have answers to all of the world's problems. What arrogance! Christ has the answer to the world's problems. I'm going to celebrate with some string cheese.

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Boy, Mr. Logician (or is it Missus?), I was barely able to understand any of that, so I just skipped to the end, and I see that your conclusions are solid, so the reasoning must be as well. I didn't really spend a lot of time in school, what with the fields and the livestock.

Wow, this is some super cheese. Did you know cheese comes from cows?
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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 05:51 AM

Enjoy that wonderful string cheese. You should really attempt to read it thoroughly, god will enlighten you.
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Enjoy that wonderful string cheese. You should really attempt to read it thoroughly, god will enlighten you.
I read it thoroughly, friend.

Would you like me to ask a Pastor to change your username to "God-Mocking Self-Satisfied Secularist"?

It seems more fitting than the one you have chosen.


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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 06:25 AM

Thank you for the request, but no thank you, I am satisfied by the name I have chosen. Why would god create a universe, and give us reason and logic if his intent wasn’t for us to collect knowledge of it and how it works? Well? Bold statements of mockery cannot hold a candle to the collection of self-realized knowledge, and the application of it to my daily life, commonly called wisdom. Wisdom is the application of knowledge to ones own life, whether that knowledge is gained by experience, education, or observation. Be courteous and wise, because there are 4200 different religions out there just as adamant. They all say that everybody else is wrong, and their the only ones who are right. “but be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind…” sound familiar? Your acting no different than all the others out there attempting to win over hearts and minds to elite ideologies. Come out from among them and be ye separate…
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Enjoy that wonderful string cheese. You should really attempt to read it thoroughly, god will enlighten you.
I believe we use a capital 'G' when referring to the one true God on this forum sir. We also use a capital 'H' when referring to Him or His as well. I think a little politeness is in order. After all, it is a Christian forum.


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Be courteous and wise, because there are 4200 different religions out there just as adamant.
If you'll beg my pardon, sir, I've heard this argument before, and it just don't sit right with me. I don't care about how many adamantine claws this wolverine got. He'll get his justice anyhow.
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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 07:17 AM

my point is that there are lots of religions, and they all say their right. they all have substantial proof that they are right. satan will mislead in cunning ways.
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Satan will mislead in cunning ways.
That Satan is nothing if not cunning. Course, afore Babel, that didn't mean much. Now it's a source of endless jokes. Why, we've got one girl in quarantine claims that Lucifer hisself sung her praises! I mean, acourse, some serious oral adulation.
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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 07:43 AM

Think of this. If you were an extremely intelligent person who desires to control the world, would you want everybody to know your evil? A clever man, like politicians, would want you to believe they are the good guy. Do you think Satan would come to you with evil plans and just show you them? Probably not. He will give you good things to to, the promise of awards for doing them, all the while accomplishing his goals. People generally have good intentions, unless they are pure evil. so whilst the entire world follows numerous religions, he keeps man divided. Wars happen because of religion. His threat is the antichrist would come if the world united, placing fear in the minds of man. thus the duel interpretation of ‘come out from among them and be ye separate’. He wants us to be divided so we cannot accomplish the goals of God.

Positive: we were created to work together in peace, optimize our resources, gain knowledge, and populate the earth and dominate it.

Negative: we are divided, we work for ourselves and our little groups, we wage wars killing ourselves, and justify it as population control. We cant even control ourselves, and our evil has brought about instabilities in our environment.

Yet you will continue in your ways, not seeking truth, but continuing to contribute to the evil agendas. It is a sad day that I cried, and my voice was not heard, I was given truth of the ages, yet no man would hear. Mans tolerance for truth, and justice has fallen into the hands of misperception. A sad day indeed. Do you know what kind of burden it is to know the truth, and yet nobody wants to hear it? To have met the creator (all one, one infinite being of infinite parts and being all) to receive infinite knowledge of our existence, all forms and motions, when I was once as you were? I was going to be a preacher, I was a newborn Christian, and I was on fire for God. I prayed daily for knowledge and wisdom, then one day I got an unexpected surprise. He gave it to me, but He wasn’t what I thought he was, in fact, he was a thought. No man can see or hear god? Of course not! You cannot see or hear with your physical body senses that which is not physical! If no one else ever believes my words, I will die knowing that I got my prayer answered. All truth is become evident, and those things which I thought before turned to dust, made of vanity and foolishness.
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Afore anything else, I just want to say that I read your profile, and I respect you real thorough-like for serving our country from Fort Bragg. Would that I'd passed the tests and could serve in your place. If any man be fit for some intelligent analysis, it be you.

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Sir, in all honesty, you got me there. Still, I'm agonna keep on reading and see what I can parse from your wisdom.

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Would you want everybody to know your evil?
Sir, I done evil, and I ain't try to hide it no more. I found Christ, and the past is forgiven.

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He will give you good things to to, the promise of awards for doing them, all the while accomplishing his goals.
Sir, we're not in the habit of capitlizing Satan's pronouns, only God's. Not around here.

Awards? Like medals? I can't deny, that sounds like something I'd like to show the grandkids I hope one day to help raise.

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People generally have good intentions, unless they are pure evil. so whilst the entire world follows numerous religions, he keeps man divided. Wars happen because of religion.
I don't know much, but it sounds like you're talking sense to me. Never heard of no atheists in foxholes.

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His threat is the antichrist would come if the world united, placing fear in the minds of man. thus the duel interpretation of ‘come out from among them and be ye separate’.
Ain't never been in no duel, but if that's what Christ commands, so be it. LOL, I won't be choosing no pen as my weapon, neither!

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Negative: we are divided, we work for ourselves and our little groups, we wage wars killing ourselves, and justify it as population control.


I'm with you. That's why I vote pro-life. Population control is college girl talk. College girls! Don't get me started.

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We cant even control ourselves.
I'm not the only one? Hallelujah!

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Yet you will continue in your ways, not seeking truth, but continuing to contribute to the evil agendas.
What? I might've lost the thread. Good thing I've got this super thread of string cheese! Cheese comes from cows, and that's no theory, I done saw it with my own eyes!

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It is a sad day that I cried, and my voice was not heard, I was given truth of the ages, yet no man would hear. Mans tolerance for truth, and justice has fallen into the hands of misperception. A sad day indeed. Do you know what kind of burden it is to know the truth, and yet nobody wants to hear it? To have met the creator (all one, one infinite being of infinite parts and being all) to receive infinite knowledge of our existence, all forms and motions, when I was once as you were? I was going to be a preacher, I was a newborn Christian, and I was on fire for God. I prayed daily for knowledge and wisdom, then one day I got an unexpected surprise. He gave it to me, but He wasn’t what I thought he was.
Sir, I didn't follow all of that, but I can empathize with the end. It's still sore, in fact.

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Hallelujah! We have a preacher in our midst! Truly, dust we art. Truly, all is vanity, especially the arrogance of men that claim wisdom. God wrote it!
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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 11:19 AM

[quote=Mister Brasil;230473]Nice to see another Christian! I was beginning to think the rest of the world was made up loonies-- the sort of people that read a couple of books and think they have answers to all of the world's problems. quote]

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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 11:23 AM

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Sister Jenny brought up the other point I wanted to make, but didn't cover this strange statement. Are you implying that there are Mooslims who aren't terrorists?

All religious people are terrorists IMO. You control your followers through the terror if what awaits them in the afterlife (if there even is one) if they don't follow your god's rules.
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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 11:26 AM

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I find this absolutely hilarious coming from those who insist on reading only one book.
The correct answer is eighty books, you damned fool!
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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 02:27 PM

66, unless your dividing psalms


1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
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Default Re: "Free"thinker Hates LBC - 09-04-2008, 04:55 PM

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Better, but still not quite there. Six correct, four incorrect. That would get you a 'D' in school. But just think about it, one more capital letter and you would have gotten a 'C'!


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