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Default Re: 15th and Final Launch - 01-09-2008, 03:31 AM

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You sound like a serious student, and we wouldn't want you to turn away from the Lord's Word. There are often complex Biblical rationales behind the facts we discuss in here, but it's hard without a serious study of the Bible to explain that. For example, if you really knew where we are coming from, you would not think that we are racists at all.

If you want to understand our theology, you should go to Brother V's Bible in a Year thread, where we go through the Bible, chapter by chapter and verse by verse, discussing the contents and explaining what casual readers may see as contradictions. We get into a lot of the details there in a way that's just not possible in a less structured thread like this one.

Stick with us in there for the entire year, and I guarantee you'll come to understand the Bible in the same way that we do, and that will make everything we say much clearer.

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It's interesting to speak to people who interpret the Bible literally.
We True Christians™ feel exactly the same way. Sometimes I think it happens far too little.

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I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to continue on this mindset when so many others around one are of contrary opinion.
God never said that His way would be the most popular way, just that it is the most Godly way. He created us with two cheeks each, so we'd always have one left to turn.

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Are there any concepts of this type that you approve of: concepts that do not go against God, but were not inspired by him or the Bible?
We are taught that we should live by

casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ. 2 Corinthians 10:5

Ronald Reagan delivered some mighty fine speeches in his day, but, on balance, I'd have to say that those were inspired by God. So, no.

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Is there a general opinion as to when the Second Coming might occur? Is such an opinion even allowed, with believers preferring to prove their faith by waiting without asking when they can relax--similar to a kid sitting patiently in the back of the car, not asking if we are there yet?
There are a lot of prophetic signs that the end times are near. I think that most of us believe that there are some people in this forum today who will not die, but will rather see Jesus coming into his Kingdom. The Huckabee Presidency would certainly put the capstone on an awful lot of prophecies. We haven't cancelled the service contract on the prayer tower elevators yet, though.

We aren't a cult. There's no such thing at Landover as not being able to ask about the meaning of God's Word. I'm constantly wondering if we're there yet, but, praise God, I know we will get there eventually.

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Do you believe in the present physical universe, that it is a vast space trillions of light-years across...?
We believe in the present physical universe, exactly as it is described in the Book of Genesis. We don't believe in space trillions of light years across. God spent the second day on the Firmament, but He labored six whole days on the Earth. That means that most of the action is right here.

Anyway, how can someone measure something trillions of light years across? It would take at least a trillion years to stretch the measuring tape, according to what the scientists say! They tend to package up a dime's worth of speculation and sell it as a dollar's worth of fact.

I have a few questions for you. What are your religious beliefs, and what do you think of the Bible?



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Question Re: 15th and Final Launch - 01-09-2008, 04:54 AM

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Anyway, how can someone measure something trillions of light years across? It would take at least a trillion years to stretch the measuring tape, according to what the scientists say! They tend to package up a dime's worth of speculation and sell it as a dollar's worth of fact.
Hurrah, brother Smith!! People are too quick to believe these 'scientists' when they claim that there are a million of these, or that's a billion years old, or something else is trillions of light years across. With the lighting set nicely, and clear HD video, a lot of the junk on PBS SOUNDS believeable. But is it really so? Who verifies these claims?


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Default Re: 15th and Final Launch - 01-10-2008, 01:24 AM

Ahimaaz Smith, I do not hold beliefs of any kind, either religious or secular. It is not my job to believe, but to know.

The way I understand it, regarding the size of the Universe, one is able to guess how large it is by what we can see: there's the Moon, a fair distance away, and then there's the Sun, even further away. Now, here it doesn't matter what orbits what--there's still a space between Earth and the Sun where it's perfectly feasible for other objects to exist. Thus when we see Mercury and Venus through a naked-eye telescope, we can call that empirical proof of planets other than Earth.

Moving out of the circle, we can also see with strong telescopes Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and the whole line-up of planets in the Sol System.

I am constantly aware of how reality could be pure illusion, which is why I take solid fact with a tiny grain of salt--even the fact that this laptop before me exists has a remote possibility of being an illusion, so I always consider that. Thus I don't see anything as True Fact. So when I hear that there are galaxies beyond this one, I treat it as an interesting possibility, not a fact like an astronomer would.

But what exactly is wrong with having such a vast Universe, if in the end it is us who is really important?
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Default Re: 15th and Final Launch - 01-12-2008, 08:19 PM

The Bible is not specific as to the size of God’s creation and why should we wish to know? If the moon is 7 cubits across and quite close or 1 million leagues away and very large, does it bring you closer to Salvation?

No.

You are as man who seeks for water when he is beside the banks of the Jordan. Many will come and tell him of sweeter springs and cooler water but they are false prophets and would lead you astray searching for that which is not there - for the Lord did not create it. Look to the river or, in your case, GOD; in Him you will find all your needs and more besides.

Your search for knowledge of the universe, the search for the mind of The Lord of hosts, and the search for the reasons behind all that you do not understand will avail you nothing. Accept the word of God as laid down in the King James V Bible; all you need to know is there.

The Godly members at Landover Baptist Church have been saving souls since 1620 and we find that thinking about things is unprofitable and, in some cases, against the word of God. So we take the word of God, as laid down, and find that it directs our thoughts in the most perfect manner.

We are relieved of the stresses and burdens of anguished contradiction and uncertainty and the constantly changing views and speeches of politicians bereft of moral steel. This helps us to gird our loins and summon forth the strength to fight daily, nay, hourly, against the anti-Christ the vicar of Rome and his catholic minions, the Muslim deniers of Christ’s part in the Trinity, the Jewish murders of Christ and take a straight-forward and view of the position of the Children of Ham.

As you progress in life, should the Lord spare you, you will come to value the certainty of a being a True Christian™

So hesitate no longer with the false prophets in the 14 institutions that you say you have questioned.

Proverbs 30 v3-6
3 I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.
4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
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