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Default Re: Are you serious? - 06-21-2016, 02:30 PM

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Please, the old testament is full of bullshit. You should ignore that kind of versicles. Even, when I registered here, I had to complete some versicle about drinking my own urine or something like that.
Young lady, to deny the OT is to deny Adam and Eve. If there was no expulsion from Eden then their was no need for Jesus to sacrifice Himself to Himself to Save all of mankind from His wrath.

I can understand Catholics hate Christians but your denial of Jesus Christ Himself beggars belief.

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1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Default Re: How do I edit a post? - 06-21-2016, 03:31 PM

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What you don't see apparently is not there.

However, there is a very practical option "Preview post" that allows to to see what the actual post looks like before you "Submit reply". It is unfortunately most underutilized by our Unsaved Trash. This is sad, as I am sure that the quality of their posts would improve tremendously if they took the effort to actually read through their excretions before letting the world see their illiterate nature.

That said, a cautious welcome to our Forum, Mr. Guest. Apparently, you're Catholic but still claim to be Christian. By this time you probably know that we and Jesus strongly disagree with you. Based on our studies and the Bible we have determined that Catholicism and the Muslim faith that derives from it cannot be considered parts of the Christian community.

I have many times asked our Catholic guests to answer the following questions but they have always refrained from doing so. Please, I really would like to a genuine Catholic answering them.

Why is it clear that you cannot be a Christian? Because there are few things that are absolutely required to make a person Christian:
  • Belief in One God (Exodus 3:14) who is also Three in the Holy Trinity (John 10:30).
  • Belief in one God who Created Everything in 6 days (Genesis 1:1).
  • Understanding the fact that the first woman sinned and caused the Fall (Genesis 3:6). We still pay the prize unless we accept Jesus!
  • Accepting that Jesus died for our sins (Mark 15:25). He is God (John 10:30). Without Him there is no Salvation (John 3:16), Jesus is absolutely necessary!
  • The realization that unbelievers go into Hell that is as real® as Jesus (John 3:18).
Do you accept these criteria? Do you? Well, your Catholic "Church" doesn't!

Your Supreme Leader, Pope does not think that Jesus is required for Salvation. Frances says, in fact, that you can be an unbeliever and go to Heaven.
This contradicts Jesus. Look at the Words He uttered in the Bible:

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Your "Church" accepts those who do not follow Jesus to be "Saved", it endorses Jew and Muslim Salvation (compare with, e.g., John 14:6).
Your Church places Muslims first. Christians are a distant fourth (After Jews and atheists, I surmise)! Do you accept these dogma that are in the Catechism of your "Church"? Do you actually know what you clergy is teaching you?

These are pivotal questions. I'm really looking forward to your answers.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer
Obviously you have a lot of free time. Are you an scholar or something?

By the way, I'm surprised about your mentioning of John 3:16, since one of your pastors wrote a very interesting article about the meaning of that versicle (I loved the part about the Jesus wrath against a poor tree).

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/sermons/nosissy.html

Why do you have two sites?

www.landoverbaptist.org
www.landoverbaptist.net

Did you had some kind of differences in the past and decide to go different paths?
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Default Re: Are you serious? - 06-21-2016, 04:05 PM

I'm confused, dear. What part of your post answered Dr. White's questions?



Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Default Re: Are you serious? - 06-21-2016, 04:45 PM

Why is it clear that you cannot be a Christian? Because there are few things that are absolutely required to make a person Christian:
Catholics believe in one God.

  • Belief in one God who Created Everything in 6 days (Genesis 1:1).
This is a metaphor. We don´t really now if the world was created or always existed.

  • Understanding the fact that the first woman sinned and caused the Fall (Genesis 3:6). We still pay the prize unless we accept Jesus!
We accept Jesus.

  • Accepting that Jesus died for our sins (Mark 15:25). He is God (John 10:30). Without Him there is no Salvation (John 3:16), Jesus is absolutely necessary!
  • The realization that unbelievers go into Hell that is as real® as Jesus (John 3:18).
We believe in all this.


SO, why aren't we christians?
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Default Re: Are you serious? - 06-21-2016, 05:32 PM

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SO, why aren't we christians?
Oh dear. Where to start. I suppose, as always, with a prayer.
Sweet Jesus, we just come to You today with Humility (the real kind, not the sanctimonious garbage the Pope John Paul the second made so popular), and with Holy Anticipation that You will touch our dear Catholic friend's heart and free her from the deception and trickery that is the root of her church home. We just pray that You would knock on her broken, crusty, dried up old heart hard enough that she might hear and let You in. We just pray that she will hear Your Word as recorded in the King James Version Bible so that she may finally have faith, for that's how faith comes, by hearing Your Word, and she obviously has never heard It before. We just ask you to be Merciful and not yet Sparta-kick her into the depths of the Lakes of Fire until she has time to hear what You have to say. Although LORD, we know it is in Your Perfect Justice to do so RIGHT NOW! Because we know You have been trying to call to her since the day she was born, and when You call for us, there is no time to GET ready, You will only take in those who are ALREADY READY!

Amen

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Catholics believe in one God.
Lie. Catholicism is an ancient religion based on the pagan worship of the goddess Isis, the mother of Horus. Horus was the ancient god who provided the same kind of communion wafers the catholic church offers today. Look at this ancient painting of Horus (also known as Osiris). On his head he wears the communion wafer that is still worshiped in catholic churches. To his right is Isis, his mother, and goddess, equal in value. To her right is Seb, the father of Horus, the one who impregnated Isis with the god/man Horus.



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This is a metaphor. We don´t really now if the world was created or always existed.
What you're really saying is you don't know if God's Word can be trusted to be accurate or not, so you trust your priest to tell you what to believe, and what to discard. You put a lot of faith in your priest, but not in Jesus' Word. Many Catholics absolutely believe the earth is 6000 years old. That tells us as a body of believers, you don't even know what you all believe! No wonder you're foolish enough to be convinced to line up every Sunday to eat and poop out what you believe to be Jesus-as-a-cracker.

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We accept Jesus.
Lie. You accept a partial god-man who requires the help of his mommy to get the job done. Your church calls Isis/Mary the “co-mediatrix,” that is, according to your church, Jesus needs a co-mediator between God and man, in opposition to the Bible (1 Timothy 2:5; Acts 4:12; Matthew 1:21).

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We believe in all this.
Except when you don't.

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SO, why aren't we christians?
Because you're liars. You lie to yourselves and you think those lies will fool Jesus. You think He's some celestial buffoon who will tricked into ignoring you because you have a bunch of long-winded Jesuits praying the most boring, repetitive prayers, and nuns nagging Him for centuries in hopes of luring Him into a stupor long enough to not notice your cloaked pedophiles sneaking into Heaven! I mean really, how dumb do you think Jesus is?



Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Default Re: Are you serious? - 06-21-2016, 09:27 PM

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I don´t see any edit button.

Thanks.
Well, it certainly doesn't seem to have stopped you editing God's Word to suit your wishes.
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Why is it clear that you cannot be a Christian? Because there are few things that are absolutely required to make a person Christian: Catholics believe in one God.
And the rest. If you pray to someone, you're worshipping them. That makes Catholics straight-up polytheists.
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This is a metaphor. We don´t really now if the world was created or always existed.
No, me saying you're as dumb as a box of rocks is a metaphor. Genesis is God's Word, or Gospel Truth as it's also known. Or do you think "gospel truth" is a metaphor for "not actually true"?
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  • Accepting that Jesus died for our sins (Mark 15:25). He is God (John 10:30). Without Him there is no Salvation (John 3:16), Jesus is absolutely necessary!
  • The realization that unbelievers go into Hell that is as real® as Jesus (John 3:18).
We believe in all this.
So you think the creation of the world is a metaphor, but hell is literally real? How do you tell the difference? What about the Flood, Methuselah, the parting of the Red Sea, the miracles of the loaves and fishes and the presidency of Ronald Wilson Reagan - were they real, or metaphors?


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Jesus Re: Are you serious? - 06-22-2016, 04:49 AM

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Your Church places Muslims first. Christians are a distant fourth (After Jews and atheists, I surmise)! Do you accept these dogma that are in the Catechism of your "Church"? Do you actually know what you clergy is teaching you?

These are pivotal questions. I'm really looking forward to your answers.
These were the pivotal questions. I am so glad that you accept Jesus as the only way to Salvation (but I'm very worried about your flawed Creation theology). However, let us see if your nice answers assesses the discrepancy between your faith and the doctrine of your "Church":
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Obviously you have a lot of free time. Are you an scholar or something?
Sweet girl, I have no free time at all. I am busy Saving Souls when I am not praying. I don't complain: once in Heaven it will be OK, there'll be lots of leisure time. I'm going to learn to play the theremin, etc.

Revelation 7:16
They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.


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Catholics believe in one God.

This is a metaphor. We don´t really now if the world was created or always existed.
We accept Jesus.
We believe in all this.

SO, why aren't we christians?
Please explain the above-mentioned discrepancies between the Bible, Jesus as the only path to salvation, and your doctrine of atheist salvation and salvation without Jesus. The quotes in my previous post that you answered only partially (the easy parts) were from your catechism and/or the words of your supreme leader Frances, and they state that Jesus is unnecessary. That is the question that needs to be answered. I'll be willing to reconsider my position when I see your reply.


Yours in Christ,

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These were the pivotal questions. I am so glad that you accept Jesus as the only way to Salvation (but I'm very worried about your flawed Creation theology). However, let us see if your nice answers assesses the discrepancy between your faith and the doctrine of your "Church":

Sweet girl, I have no free time at all. I am busy Saving Souls when I am not praying. I don't complain: once in Heaven it will be OK, there'll be lots of leisure time. I'm going to learn to play the theremin, etc.

Revelation 7:16
They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.



Please explain the above-mentioned discrepancies between the Bible, Jesus as the only path to salvation, and your doctrine of atheist salvation and salvation without Jesus. The quotes in my previous post that you answered only partially (the easy parts) were from your catechism and/or the words of your supreme leader Frances, and they state that Jesus is unnecessary. That is the question that needs to be answered. I'll be willing to reconsider my position when I see your reply.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer
Your argument is based in a dogma, and we know the church was corrupted for the pursuing of a dogma to control people and get power.


What Francis says is to kept the dogma aside, and be a virtuous man, believing or not believing in God.


Do you consider yourself virtuous , when you execrate other people for his race or mental IQ?
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Your argument is based in a dogma, and we know the church was corrupted for the pursuing of a dogma to control people and get power.


What Francis says is to kept the dogma aside, and be a virtuous man, believing or not believing in God.


Do you consider yourself virtuous , when you execrate other people for his race or mental IQ?


Dear young lady,


Though I am happy you admit that Rome is corrupt I am compelled by the Holy Ghost to correct your unfound assertion that any Christian on this board is execrating people based on race or mental IQ.

God has expressed His will and separates races and mental competence in His own way;

"And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren."~Genesis 9:25


"[S]eeing He giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation"~Acts 17:24b-25

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Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered."~1 Peter 3:7




I pray you read your Holy Bible [KJV 1611] with fresh eyes and not what was force-fed you by the Roman "Gestapo"

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"And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves. No doubt this man is a murderer. And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god." ~ Acts 28:4-6
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Default Re: Are you serious? - 06-23-2016, 01:51 AM

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Your argument is based in a dogma, and we know the church was corrupted for the pursuing of a dogma to control people and get power.
His argument is based on God's words, and we know that the Catholic institution corrupted God's words (the opposite of what you say) to control people and get power.

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What Francis says is to kept the dogma aside, and be a virtuous man, believing or not believing in God.
Give us one good reason to care what he says.


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Default Re: Are you serious? - 06-25-2016, 10:31 PM

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Your argument is based in a dogma, and we know the church was corrupted for the pursuing of a dogma to control people and get power.
Where else are you getting your information about Jesus from, except from scripture, wayward idolator?

I was once afflicted by Catholicism but then I discovered Jesus and was saved. Please stop worshipping a statue of a woman like the pagans, I implore you.

When you pray to dead people does it not ring alarm bells in your mind that you are practising witchcraft?



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Default help needed - 06-26-2016, 02:03 PM

Hi everyone,


would you be so kind and spare 10 minutes of your time to fill in the below questionnaire for me? It's a part of my research for the MSc Psychology dissertation. I'm doing a cross-cultural study and since I'm located in Poland, it's challenging to reach the American part of my respondents.
At this moment of my research I'm looking for respondents among protestants who are currently in relationships. Of course all participants will be kept as anonymous. I would be glad if you could help me.


The link to the survey:
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Default Re: Are you serious? - 06-26-2016, 02:15 PM

We are not protestants, dear. We are Baptists.


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