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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-14-2013, 08:36 PM
To the "Arrogant Atheist Dick"
Israel is in the region of the world we like to call the Middle east. The ethnicity of the middle east is Arabian.
Mary was an Arab because she was born in the area. In an age before safe sea travel and airplanes, it was extremely unlikely to find a person in a given area that had a different ethnicity than the rest of the population.
Jesus must have had DNA. If not, he would not have an organic body. As divine as you say he is, he was human, humans are made of cells and cells contain NA for which they create structures based off of their information.
Give me another explanation if you don't accept my two options.
DNA tells the cells what to do. The cell will make structures based off of the DNA. Any special ability that jesus had (if it was in the DNA) would have to have a unique organ for jesus to have. Many of the things people say he can do defy the laws of physics, DNA can't do that.
You can not answer every question with god did it. If god did it that way, God must be extremely stupid. Jesus would have had a severely limited capacity to make outdoor speeches. The people of that land would be much less likely to listen to him, if he was white.
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-14-2013, 11:09 PM
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The ethnicity of the middle east is Arabian.
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No it isn't.
There are many references to Jesus' colouring in The Bible from the historical record of Samuel to the present day and beyond.
Here's one:
Song of Solomon 5:10 My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
KJV
Last edited by MitzaLizalor; 06-14-2013 at 11:10 PM.
Reason: removed first part of quote because it would only confuse OP
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-14-2013, 11:25 PM
White and ruddy could be a reference to his character. White hair and head might refer to his hair, but it could be his skin. Combined with white hair, red eyes, and your description of his skin, my conclusion is that Jesus was an albino. Albinos lack an effective gene that controls pigments, this will leave the skin and hair a pale white color, it will also leave the signature red eye color. Albinos extremely pale skin leaves them almost twice as likely to get sunburn as most white people.
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-14-2013, 11:49 PM
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To the "Arrogant Atheist Dick"
Israel is in the region of the world we like to call the Middle east. The ethnicity of the middle east is Arabian...
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So the Arabs would like you to believe (and good job accepting things people tell you without question [how are you not a Christian yet?]). Ask an Egyptian, Libyan, Lebanese, Iranian, etc. if they're Arab (just wear a stab vest when you do). The ethnicity we refer to as "Arab" arose in what is now Saudi Arabia and the surrounding areas, and has spread, mostly since (and due to) the rise of Islam. Prior to that, the region had many groups, of all kinds of different skin tones, languages, etc.
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...Mary was an Arab because she was born in the area...
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See above.
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...In an age before safe sea travel and airplanes, it was extremely unlikely to find a person in a given area that had a different ethnicity than the rest of the population...
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Thank you for voicing an unsubstantiated opinion as fact (they might make a Christian of you, yet). There was a lot of travel going on back then (ever heard of the Phoenicians, or the Greek diaspora, or the Romans...).
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...Give me another explanation if you don't accept my two options...
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How about two?
1) God did it.
2) Jesus didn't exist.
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...You can not answer every question with god did it...
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Why not?
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...The people of that land would be much less likely to listen to him, if he was white.
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Or, they may have seen a white-skinned person in the middle of a sea of browns as magical and obviously divine, but thank you for assuming they were all xenophobic racists.
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-15-2013, 12:17 AM
Those ethnicities are all named after countries that happen to be there today, i don't believe there is a substantial difference. Iran was not even in existence at the time, it was commonly called Mesopotamia.
Those empires did exist at around that time but the only travelers were traders, its likely that they returned to the comforts of home after they got their trading done.
Racism was very common at the time (and on this site, it still is). people there likely had seen a white perso at some point in their life. But if Jesus was albino (read above post to see how I reached that conclusion), then it might have fantasized people.
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-15-2013, 12:30 AM
Jesus is White. Plain and simple.
I remember when my dad worked for Esso. He was the only decent person in all of that area. Everyone was hook nosed and spit when they spoke. He lived in constant fee the joos were going to 'spike' him. Why would the joos want to spike (as they always say) 'one of their own'?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-15-2013, 01:44 AM
Your second point kind of disproves your first. Jesus did not look like an Arab so the Jews (I do not understand why you continuously spell it wrong) would not think of him as one of their own.
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-15-2013, 02:29 AM
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Those ethnicities are all named after countries that happen to be there today...
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What I referred to are nationalities, not ethnicities. Each of those countries has many ethnicities, and Arab would be a small to negligible one in each of those countries.
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...Iran was not even in existence at the time, it was commonly called Mesopotamia...
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That's Iraq.
Did you mean Persia?
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...Those empires did exist at around that time but the only travelers were traders, its likely that they returned to the comforts of home after they got their trading done...
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Yeah, Rome ruled from England to Iraq with only the help of "traders".
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...But if Jesus was albino (read above post to see how I reached that conclusion), then it might have fantasized people.
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I've seen how you reach conclusions (facts are created or neglected as per requirements). Again, how are you not a Christian yet?
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-15-2013, 02:33 AM
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Then explain to me how, i will explain why its extremely likely that he {Jesus} was Arab....
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...Jesus did not look like an Arab...
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-15-2013, 03:56 AM
In your first comment, the Iraq Iran was a type-o.
The ethnicity of Arabian is a generalized term for many ethnicities of that area. Like how the term Eskimo is used to define every tribe in the north Atlantic ocean.
Yes, they did. The army went up to those areas and then after breaking the spirits of the natives went home. only to come back when something happened. the garrison that ran things in those particular far away places tended to be natives trained for the job.
My conclusion is based on scripture evidence (the only kind you will listen to) that said that say that Jesus had white skin, white hair, and red eyes, all symptoms of albinism. Of course, if the scripture is flawed like my theory, that statement might be incorrect.
To your second post
That second quote was taken out of context. i firmly believe that Jesus was an Arab. I am merely stating that even if the scriptures were correct, he would be albino
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-15-2013, 06:01 AM
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DNA, schmee-N-A. Jesus was, is, and always shall be a White Man.
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-15-2013, 06:11 AM
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firmly believe that Jesus was an Arab.
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Which Gospel do you think best describes this?
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-20-2013, 09:28 PM
Jesus wasn't an Arab, but he most likely wasn't white either. He was probably dark skinned like those living in the Middle East today
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-20-2013, 09:53 PM
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Jesus wasn't an Arab, but he most likely wasn't white either. He was probably dark skinned like those living in the Middle East today
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And people should believe you because of all of the incontrovertible evidence you posted.
Oh, wait.
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-20-2013, 10:09 PM
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And people should believe you because of all of the incontrovertible evidence you posted.
Oh, wait.
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I think that ship has sailed mate. It doesn't matter how much evidence you have, if it's contradictory to their claims and it's not from the Bible then this lot immediately dismiss it - I'd have thought you'd know that by now.
And, in terms of the Arab thing, you provided the proof there: 'The ethnicity we refer to as "Arab" arose in what is now Saudi Arabia and the surrounding areas, and has spread, mostly since (and due to) the rise of Islam.'
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-20-2013, 10:09 PM
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!
. . probably dark skinned like those living in the Middle East today
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-20-2013, 10:15 PM
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I think that ship has sailed mate. It doesn't matter how much evidence you have, if it's contradictory to their claims and it's not from the Bible then this lot immediately dismiss it - I'd have thought you'd know that by now....
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I do. Why don't you?
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...And, in terms of the Arab thing, you provided the proof there: 'The ethnicity we refer to as "Arab" arose in what is now Saudi Arabia and the surrounding areas, and has spread, mostly since (and due to) the rise of Islam.'
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And when was that, vis-a-vis the (supposed) life of Jesus?
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-20-2013, 10:21 PM
Bear in mind the effects of black and white photos, being a Turk and expulsion from one's homeland to mostly cooler and more overcast conditions for almost 2,000 years. Also consider that the lighter-skinned Middle Easterns you present are still far darker than the typical Northern European depiction of Jesus
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-20-2013, 10:26 PM
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I do. Why don't you?
And when was that, vis-a-vis the (supposed) life of Jesus?
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We're making the same point here
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Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE! -
06-20-2013, 11:42 PM
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We're making the same point here
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No, we're not. Islam started about 650 years after the (supposed) death of Jesus, so doubt is cast on the possibility of there being ANY appreciable number of so-called "Arabs" (or even dark skinned people) in the Holy Land during Biblical times.
Anyways, the major point I'm trying to get through to you is: if you want to make a claim (like: "...he most likely wasn't white either. He was probably dark skinned like those living in the Middle East today...") back it up with SOMETHING, otherwise it's just an opinion (and should be identified as such), and you've done nothing to recommend yours so far.
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