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Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
11-05-2016, 07:07 AM
Adapted from a different post, but due to the sheer popularity of this "band" I decided I would also share it here, that Christian parents might not get the wrong idea. Now, this analysis is for only two songs, but I am absolutely positive that they have more music out there that deserves to be removed from every Christian household.
In this post I will prove that Twenty One Pilots are: - Followers of satan
- Rapists
- Deceitful haters of mankind and their listener base
- Anti-Christian liars
- Damned to hell for eternity
Personally if I ever find any of their music in my house I am breaking the CD and throwing it in the trash, and if I find it on my son's phone or laptop I am taking both away from him until he proves to me he can be trusted. Twenty One Pilots are hellbound sinners and ought to be immediately banned!
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Pretty much any song by 21 Pilōts (or however the kool kats these days spell it)
They have a song called Stressed Out, which is clearly about stress. Stress clearly is NOT the right way to live (John 14:27, 1 John 4:18, Philippians 4:6-7, I could go on...)
Another song is Tear in my Heart. Pay attention to Proverbs 3:5 "Trust in the LORD with ALL your heart" If there's a tear in it, you can't trust in the LORD.
A song called heavydirtysoul is pretty self explanatory. If your soul is dirty, it's covered with SIN. And if you're a sinner, you can't go to Heaven. If your soul is heavy, you'll be weighed to the ground and unable to go up to Jesus in Heaven.
Also, the worst song......HEATHENS! A song about HEATHENS!
I don't even want to talk about it!
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As I was flipping through the various radio channels attempting to get to reruns of my favorite program, Old Pastor Shadrach's Prayer Hour, I came across these "Twenty One Profligates" and I just about lost my lunch. Allow me to attempt to interpret just how deep the sin runs in this "song" of theirs. Christian women and children avert your eyes from the following quotations!
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All my friends are heathens, take it slow
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Here, the band is openly stating that everyone they consider friendly is in league with satan and deserves to go to Hell for eternity. They also suggest taking "it" slow, and by "it" I assume they mean the only thing worth anything in this world, the struggle to fully grasp GOD'S truth. They're telling the listener to take GOD slowly, to forget GOD'S word by taking it piecemeal and to become a cafeteria Christian.
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Wait for them to ask you who you know
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This is saying that in order for the listener to be safe, they must either "know" someone in the sense of sodomizing them, or else they must have esoteric knowledge of the devil. They certainly can't be talking about knowing all about GOD or else they wouldn't be heathens, so we can safely assume that this is basically attempting to persuade the listener into committing rape or devil worship. Still think "Twenty One Rapists" are cool, kids?
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Please don't make any sudden moves
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We know that GOD'S judgment is 'sudden,' as evidenced by Psalm 64:7, Proverbs 6:15, Isaiah 29:5, Ecclesiastes 9:12, Acts 9:3, etc. We know that GOD moves swiftly and suddenly when HE chooses to. This is what they are referencing by "sudden moves," they are asking GOD not to intervene in their wickedness. Too bad, so sad! Cry me a river of sinful crocodile tears, Twenty One Pi-liars!
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You don't know the half of the abuse
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Who is the principal abuser in this world? Satan, of course! We already know that Twenty One Pontius Pilates are sinful and in league with the devil himself, and the lyrics are clear, so we know hat they are at least somewhat aware of what they are doing, leading others to hell. Misery does love company, after all. The abuse they are talking about is the abuse of hell; their listeners do not know the half of the abuse they will suffer in their eternal torment and torture for rejecting GOD. This is where they go from stating that they are devil worshipers to outright mockery of their listening base.
After doing just a bit more research into them, I discovered another one of their songs, "Ride," which managed to disgust me even more. Read on at your peril...
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Yeah, I think about the end just way too much/But it's fun to fantasize/On my enemies who wouldn't wish who I was/But it's fun to fantasize
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Here the author is saying he thinks about death, dying, killing, murder, etc far too often, and fantasizes about death and killing his enemies (Christians). Odd, since if he meant that, he would think about the afterlife and where he wants to spend eternity. Seems he made the stupid choice!
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Oh, oh, I'm falling, so I'm taking my time on my ride
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The author is falling into hell, so he is taking his time getting there through his life, since even he does not want to end up in hell, even as he brings others with him to it.
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"I'd die for you, " that's easy to say/
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We have a list of people that we would take/A bullet for them, a bullet for you/A bullet for everybody in this room
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The band members of Twenty Wicked Pilots don't believe that JESUS died for them (HE did! Well, HE died for HIS chosen, perhaps not for these clowns), and furthermore, they not only have a list of enemies (no doubt Christians), but they are at all times equipped to massacre everyone in the room. While I am of course a fan of always being armed and I support their right to self-defense, this is what is known as "premeditated murder," and in this case, outright terrorism. I would support arresting Twenty One Pilots for planning a mass shooting.
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"I'd live for you," and that's hard to do/Even harder to say when you know it's not true
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Twenty One Harlots are admitting that they are liars who only pretend to honor the dead or the fallen and will disrespect the troops. Many survivors of hard conflicts experience "survivor's guilt," well it looks like in this case Twenty One Pilots have "survivor's gluttony!"
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I've been thinking too much/(help me)
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
11-06-2016, 05:34 PM
Worst of all, these sinners actually claim to be Christian! Look on your search engine if you don't believe me. These two are liars! Another reason they need to be banned from the radio, music stores, etc.
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
11-06-2016, 11:12 PM
Thank you for this glaring expose of Satanic work threatening our youth.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
11-09-2016, 03:37 PM
I feel as though their song "Heavydirtysoul" is about the lead singer, Tyler, pleading to God if he can save him. Maybe like he has been doubting his faith and wants God to show Himself? They have another song, "Implicit Demand for Proof," where the lyrics can be interpreted as Tyler asking God to show Himself as he has gotten weary in his faith and begs for proof of God's existence. I know that many of his songs deal with fighting mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety, and others. "Stressed Out" deals with wanting to go back to his childhood and dealing with simple things because sometimes dealing with adult problems are exceedingly stressful. "Heathens" is about Tyler warning his fellow Christian fans about the non-Christians who will shun them. It's a message to his Christian fans to stay strong even though there are bad things they have to face as Christians.
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
11-16-2016, 09:52 AM
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I feel as though their song "Heavydirtysoul" is about the lead singer, Tyler, pleading to God if he can save him. Maybe like he has been doubting his faith and wants God to show Himself?
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James 1:6 tells me he ought to feel bad about doubting, if he lost GOD then it is because GOD clearly does not want a self-proclaimed heathen following HIM! Matthew 7:21. GOD is under no obligation to prove anything to anyone! Read the Book of Job.
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They have another song, "Implicit Demand for Proof," where the lyrics can be interpreted as Tyler asking God to show Himself as he has gotten weary in his faith and begs for proof of God's existence.
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I guess they're faithless rebels against GOD'S word. I fail to see how this goes against my original point, but okay.
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I know that many of his songs deal with fighting mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety, and others.
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No no, it's quite simple. These songs deal with possession. JESUS said as much and I think HE knows a little more about demons than "Tyler" does.
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"Stressed Out" deals with wanting to go back to his childhood and dealing with simple things because sometimes dealing with adult problems are exceedingly stressful.
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1 Corinthians 13:11, too bad, so sad.
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"Heathens" is about Tyler warning his fellow Christian fans about the non-Christians who will shun them. It's a message to his Christian fans to stay strong even though there are bad things they have to face as Christians.
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At the end of the song he sings "It looks like you might be one of us," (emphasis mine) meaning that he includes himself as one of the heathens, ergo he is not Christian. This is simple stuff, I don't know where you're getting the implication that they are Christians when they're telling you blatantly that they are in fact hell-bound heathens and unrepentant sinners.
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
11-17-2016, 04:04 PM
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I feel as though their song "Heavydirtysoul" is about the lead singer, Tyler, pleading to God if he can save him. Maybe like he has been doubting his faith and wants God to show Himself? They have another song, "Implicit Demand for Proof," where the lyrics can be interpreted as Tyler asking God to show Himself as he has gotten weary in his faith and begs for proof of God's existence. I know that many of his songs deal with fighting mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety, and others. "Stressed Out" deals with wanting to go back to his childhood and dealing with simple things because sometimes dealing with adult problems are exceedingly stressful. "Heathens" is about Tyler warning his fellow Christian fans about the non-Christians who will shun them. It's a message to his Christian fans to stay strong even though there are bad things they have to face as Christians.
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
03-25-2017, 07:07 PM
It's "skeleton clique" honestly, try googling it. Secondly, why do you people try to find hate everywhere you look? Maybe it stems from how you're desperate to put other people down based on your flawed beliefs so that you feel better about yourselves? Therapy really does work wonders.
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
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Therapy really does work wonders.
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Admitting this is a good first step. Would you like me to schedule you for a consultation visit?
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
03-25-2017, 07:56 PM
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Admitting this is a good first step. Would you like me to schedule you for a consultation visit?
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Actually, it wouldn't be a consultation visit as I already go to therapy weekly as I recognize that I need a better outlet for my aggression than writing hateful things about people I know little about on the internet.
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
03-26-2017, 05:27 AM
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Actually, it wouldn't be a consultation visit as I already go to therapy weekly .....
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Yes, quite. And how's that working for you?
The only thing you need to consult is the Bible (KJV 1611) it will cure all your ills.
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“Behold, I will bring it health and cure, and I will cure them, and wil reueale vnto them the abundance of peace, and trueth.”
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For behold, the Lord wil come with fire, and with his charets like a whirlewinde, to render his anger with furie, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
03-26-2017, 10:59 AM
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Secondly, why do you people try to find hate everywhere you look?
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I couldn't see anything hateful in Mrs Sayne's posts.
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Maybe it stems from how you're desperate to put other people down based on your flawed beliefs so that you feel better about yourselves?
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Joy is better than therapy: you seem to advocate it for some reason. While some things make us happy and other things make us glad there are better things than those. And of all the things there are the very best thing of all is being a Christian. The Bible explains the magnitude of our joy and we are happy to acknowledge our Lord:
JUDE 1 . KJV . look up . START HERE
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
I was unable to find your introduction post.
Satan has many traps waiting around and its easy to be misled.
The secular world dismisses these as personal preferences or something.
And of course The Bible explains everything we need to know about witches. Have you ever read The Bible?
The Bible describes all sorts of error, mostly involving idolatry which is the cornerstone of pagan belief systems and of witchcraft and heathenism generally. I can recommend reading The Bible to find out more concerning what that therapist must be saying.
The Bible does not support Freud's proposals, does not support Jung or Adler and there is no such thing as a Christian psychotherapist for whom religious perceptions are necessarily a form of temporal lobe epilepsy. The Bible does not agree with that assessment.
Yes I can recommend The Bible. In the verses I quoted is a link which I'll update with an extra " START HERE" so you can begin from the beginning. It really is a very good place to start.
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
05-12-2017, 12:44 PM
I just have a quick suggestion- there was an album the lead singer, tyler, made when he was in highschool, called "no phun intended."he is very religious, some examples of the songs on that album are:
1. save- he trusts jesus, and is asking for his forgiveness, and for jesus to save him.
2. where did we go- (lyrics) we are people blind, once again, we think we have the light. we pretend we live such perfect lives, but we know we don't have love divine.... we'll try again some day, because we love you, we won't forget that day, when love was true.
i'm assuming he was talking about when jesus died for our sins...
also at the end of a song called clear- "i sing of a greater love"
i don't mean to start a war, just defending this clearly very religious, non rapist, friendly band
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05-12-2017, 01:15 PM
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06-13-2017, 04:47 PM
My fellow brothers and sister, when you say that these people are sinners, do you not remember when the pharisees tempted Jesus with casting stones at one of our sisters? Open your Bible to John 8:7. Do you think they still stoned her? And yes, Jesus was the only perfect person on Earth, but he is a loving person, thus he wouldn't stone her. We're all sinners. If we weren't, then why did God send his son? Don't you realize that David also sinned but he was forgiven? What about Mary Magdelene? And do you think you are one to criticize others? Love all your enemies and hate not. Don't make emojis of killing people, don't condemn your brothers and sisters. Warning is one thing, but when you take it too far, step back and repent. I am positive that these two band members are lovers in Christ. And even if they're not, love them. When Jesus told one of our brothers that he is lacking one thing in his walk with God and told him to give away his things, the man didn't give away his things, but his faith. Do you think Jesus was angry? No. But he was grieved. There are consequences to your actions, good and bad. Repent, my brothers and sisters. Learn from this. God bless you all, and praise the Lord. Amen.
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06-13-2017, 06:21 PM
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My fellow brothers and sister, when you say that these people are sinners, do you not remember when the pharisees tempted Jesus with casting stones at one of our sisters? Open your Bible to John 8:7. Do you think they still stoned her?
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I'm afraid you're misunderstanding that passage. It's understandable-- it's one of Satan's favorite parts of the Bible. Look at a more complete version of the passage:
John 8: 4-7:
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They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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Jesus here isn't referring to just any sin. He's referring to a very particular sin. Deuteronomy 19: 15:
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Or, similarly, thou shalt not bear false witness. Exodus 20: 16:
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Notice what's happening here. The Pharisees claim to have caught the woman in the act. Jesus accuses them of lying-- of hypocrisy. He says, "Oh really? Well which two of you witnessed?" John 8 continues in verses 8-11:
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And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
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Emphasis mine. It turns out that the Pharisees were lying. Because there is no witness to the crime, as commanded by the Law of God, there can be no punishment. And more, the Pharisees are revealed as being unconcerned with or ignorant of the Law. Jesus came, indeed, to fulfill the law. And the punishment for adultery is stoning. But in that case, lacking two witnesses, fulfilling the law meant letting the woman off.
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And yes, Jesus was the only perfect person on Earth, but he is a loving person, thus he wouldn't stone her. We're all sinners. If we weren't, then why did God send his son?
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Be careful, and read your Bible. You, the unsaved, all are sinners. We, the saved, all were sinners.
1 John 3: 6:
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This is an important distinction, and God stresses it.
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06-13-2017, 06:48 PM
Hi Brasil,
There is another question: Why didn´t Chelsie introduce herself in the introduction forum? I really hope she does.
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Jeremiah 6:21 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.
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06-14-2017, 01:40 AM
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Be careful, and read your Bible. You, the unsaved, all are sinners. We, the saved, all were sinners. 1 John 3:6
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It is wonderful to be set free from sin.Now I am perfect!That is not something that would ever occur to me just by myself, therefore it's true!!God said it.I believe it.That settles it.
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David also sinned but he was forgiven..
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It is worth remembering that God loved David. Yes, we know this because He forgave him. Just think what would have happened if God had not forgiven David. Would Jesus ever have been born? But God cannot abide sin. What could God do? Fortunately there was a solution.
II Samuel 12 . KJV . CONTEXT
13 David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.
14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.What sort of death did God have in mind for this unregenerate child? Let's find out: 16 David therefore besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night upon the earth.
17 And the elders of his house arose, and went to him, to raise him up from the earth: but he would not, neither did he eat bread with them.
18 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died. And the servants of David feared to tell him that the child was dead: for they said, Behold, while the child was yet alive, we spake unto him, and he would not hearken unto our voice: how will he then vex himself, if we tell him that the child is dead?
19 But when David saw that his servants whispered, David perceived that the child was dead: therefore David said unto his servants, Is the child dead? And they said, He is dead.
20 Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself , and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the LORD, and worshipped: then he came to his own house; and when he required, they set bread before him, and he did eat.
21 Then said his servants unto him, What thing is this that thou hast done? thou didst fast and weep for the child, while it was alive; but when the child was dead, thou didst rise and eat bread.
22 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?
23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
24 And David comforted Bathsheba his wife, and went in unto her, and lay with her: and she bare a son, and he called his name Solomon: and the LORD loved him. Henbane (flower)
A week is a long time for a child because a week is a much greater proportion of a child's life that for an adult. For example a year is only 1% of a 100-year-old's life whereas, for a 1-year-old, a year is 100% of a lifetime. Very different concepts, especially from within. I remember having chickenpox for a whole week. A very long week. First I felt like I'd drunk too much henbane, then I felt like I'd picked up a dose of The Botts from some gutter and the next day things got worse. Eventually after what seemed like 1,000,000 years I recovered but David's child was paying for something much worse than chickenpox. At the point where you'd be thinking about getting up for a few minutes to see if you fell over David's child would feel like it was in a flower press. Coming apart at the seams, scab-ridden, so blasted that sorry no you're not getting better you're going to die here's some more pain. No standing up for this little one. God cannot abide sin because God is perfect. Did this little wretch die from bowel ruptures? Convulsions? Peeling off of the skin? Or did it just lie there rotting alive into a little puddle of goo with a few bones and organs until it could fight no longer and whatever meagre hopes lingered behind those once bright, now pleading, eyes were crushed to naught. The child would know what was happening. I knew what was happening to me when I had chickenpox. How much worse did God, in His mercy, pile onto this feeble frame, feeble yet daring to hope to live a moment longer.
Hallelujah!! David was forgiven at last! Praise God for His lovingkindness!! He got the widow of his dreams, now of course a dream no longer but on tap, the wisest son ever to live as attested by the historical record, riches galore and was King of all he surveyed. Yes, there was a way for God to overlook David's sin and so I know that when God tells me to be perfect He is not telling me to do something He cannot achieve.
Matthew 5 . KJV . CONTEXT
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.How is this achieved? I John 3 . KJV . CONTEXT
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
That is just so humbling, that I am perfect. Perhaps you have a different method of Salvation described somewqhere else? But this is the one described in The Bible. If you have some other source to demonstrate I'm mistaken perhaps you could link to it? If so I can assure you I'll read what you post.
Chelsie, this is an important message for humanity, the the most important message ever because it determines our eternity and I do want to get it right. Thanks.
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06-14-2017, 12:41 PM
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I'm afraid you're misunderstanding that passage. It's understandable-- it's one of Satan's favorite parts of the Bible. Look at a more complete version of the passage:
John 8: 4-7:
Jesus here isn't referring to just any sin. He's referring to a very particular sin. Deuteronomy 19: 15:
Or, similarly, thou shalt not bear false witness. Exodus 20: 16:Notice what's happening here. The Pharisees claim to have caught the woman in the act. Jesus accuses them of lying-- of hypocrisy. He says, "Oh really? Well which two of you witnessed?" John 8 continues in verses 8-11:Emphasis mine. It turns out that the Pharisees were lying. Because there is no witness to the crime, as commanded by the Law of God, there can be no punishment. And more, the Pharisees are revealed as being unconcerned with or ignorant of the Law. Jesus came, indeed, to fulfill the law. And the punishment for adultery is stoning. But in that case, lacking two witnesses, fulfilling the law meant letting the woman off.
Be careful, and read your Bible. You, the unsaved, all are sinners. We, the saved, all were sinners.
1 John 3: 6:This is an important distinction, and God stresses it.
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And so what about backsliding? What about the Christians who will be left behind when Jesus comes back? Even Jesus was tempted by satan.
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06-14-2017, 12:47 PM
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It is wonderful to be set free from sin.Now I am perfect!That is not something that would ever occur to me just by myself, therefore it's true!!God said it.I believe it.That settles it. It is worth remembering that God loved David. Yes, we know this because He forgave him. Just think what would have happened if God had not forgiven David. Would Jesus ever have been born? But God cannot abide sin. What could God do? Fortunately there was a solution.
II Samuel 12 . KJV . CONTEXT
13 David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.
14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.What sort of death did God have in mind for this unregenerate child? Let's find out: 16 David therefore besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night upon the earth.
17 And the elders of his house arose, and went to him, to raise him up from the earth: but he would not, neither did he eat bread with them.
18 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died. And the servants of David feared to tell him that the child was dead: for they said, Behold, while the child was yet alive, we spake unto him, and he would not hearken unto our voice: how will he then vex himself, if we tell him that the child is dead?
19 But when David saw that his servants whispered, David perceived that the child was dead: therefore David said unto his servants, Is the child dead? And they said, He is dead.
20 Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself , and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the LORD, and worshipped: then he came to his own house; and when he required, they set bread before him, and he did eat.
21 Then said his servants unto him, What thing is this that thou hast done? thou didst fast and weep for the child, while it was alive; but when the child was dead, thou didst rise and eat bread.
22 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will be gracious to me, that the child may live?
23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
24 And David comforted Bathsheba his wife, and went in unto her, and lay with her: and she bare a son, and he called his name Solomon: and the LORD loved him. Henbane (flower)
A week is a long time for a child because a week is a much greater proportion of a child's life that for an adult. For example a year is only 1% of a 100-year-old's life whereas, for a 1-year-old, a year is 100% of a lifetime. Very different concepts, especially from within. I remember having chickenpox for a whole week. A very long week. First I felt like I'd drunk too much henbane, then I felt like I'd picked up a dose of The Botts from some gutter and the next day things got worse. Eventually after what seemed like 1,000,000 years I recovered but David's child was paying for something much worse than chickenpox. At the point where you'd be thinking about getting up for a few minutes to see if you fell over David's child would feel like it was in a flower press. Coming apart at the seams, scab-ridden, so blasted that sorry no you're not getting better you're going to die here's some more pain. No standing up for this little one. God cannot abide sin because God is perfect. Did this little wretch die from bowel ruptures? Convulsions? Peeling off of the skin? Or did it just lie there rotting alive into a little puddle of goo with a few bones and organs until it could fight no longer and whatever meagre hopes lingered behind those once bright, now pleading, eyes were crushed to naught. The child would know what was happening. I knew what was happening to me when I had chickenpox. How much worse did God, in His mercy, pile onto this feeble frame, feeble yet daring to hope to live a moment longer.
Hallelujah!! David was forgiven at last! Praise God for His lovingkindness!! He got the widow of his dreams, now of course a dream no longer but on tap, the wisest son ever to live as attested by the historical record, riches galore and was King of all he surveyed. Yes, there was a way for God to overlook David's sin and so I know that when God tells me to be perfect He is not telling me to do something He cannot achieve.
Matthew 5 . KJV . CONTEXT
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.How is this achieved? I John 3 . KJV . CONTEXT
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. That is just so humbling, that I am perfect. Perhaps you have a different method of Salvation described somewqhere else? But this is the one described in The Bible. If you have some other source to demonstrate I'm mistaken perhaps you could link to it? If so I can assure you I'll read what you post.
Chelsie, this is an important message for humanity, the the most important message ever because it determines our eternity and I do want to get it right. Thanks.
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I have always heard of how we're all sinners. I don't know, I should pray about it to God. Thanks for revealing that to me. God bless!
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Re: Twenty One Pilots = Twenty One Profligates, Should Be "Stressed Out" Of The Country! -
06-14-2017, 03:22 PM
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I have always heard of how we're all sinners. I don't know, I should pray about it to God. Thanks for revealing that to me. God bless!
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I've heard all sorts of things but without any evidence all they are is claims and I'm quite justified in disregarding them. But when a claim contradicts The Bible there is really very little to pray about concerning its truth. Of course we were once sinners, but that is past tense. Christians, as presented in The Bible, are sinners no longer. God has fulfilled His promise.
MICAH 7 . KJV . look up
18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.
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