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Church historian claimes saints were psychos hearing voices -
01-11-2008, 12:25 AM
Members of 'The View' get to put their feet in their mouths on a daily basis. Here's another brilliant opinion voiced by resident Catholic specialist Joy Behar:
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Joy Behar: No More Saints Due to Modern Medicine
Thursday, January 10, 2008
Saints were psychotic and advances in modern medicine have essentially wiped them off the planet. That's "the view" of comedian Joy Behar, as expressed on national television Wednesday.
"I have a theory that you can’t find any saints anymore because of psychotropic medication. I think that [in] the old days, the saints were hearing voices and they didn’t have any Thorazine to calm them down," Behar said on ABC's daily chatfest. "Now that we have all of this medication available to us, you can’t find a saint anymore."
Click here for a blog post on Behar's comments and to read the transcript
A spokesman for "The View" said Joy was just joking:
"She said very clearly it was just a theory — she has lots of really funny theories that she kind of gives on a daily basis. She’s a Catholic, and she loves to talk about the Catholic Church. It’s one of her favorite subjects."
Others didn't find the joke too funny. Behar's co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck blasted Behar's theory, noting that the late Mother Teresa, who has not yet been given sainthood, is a modern example of a saint.
Behar mentioned the recently revealed letters that suggest Mother Teresa struggled with doubts about her faith, and contended that the Catholic Church’s standards for sainthood have changed due to medical advances.
"That’s why Mother Teresa had issues. Let’s not forget, she didn’t really believe 100 percent like those saints who were hearing voices. She didn’t hear voices," Behar said.
"So the church said ‘OK, she does good deeds. Let’s make her a saint.’ In the old days it used to be you heard voices. You can’t do that anymore."
FOX News contributor Father Jonathan Morris, when asked to comment for FOXNews.com, lambasted Behar's remarks, whether or not they were intended to be funny.
"Suggesting that holiness of life is equivalent to a mental disorder as Ms. Behar did is rather unbalanced to say the least," Morris said.
"Nobody is beatified or canonized because they hear voices. People are declared saints because they have first of all exemplified a heroic living of Christian virtue."
As for Behar's characterization of Mother Teresa, Morris said the talk-show host would do well to study the humanitarian's life.
"Clearly she is no church historian. Saying 'she didn't believe 100 percent' is a simplistic and superficial reading of the news," said Morris. "Why would you spend 60 years in a slum in the name of Jesus out of love for God if you don’t believe in Jesus or God 100 percent?"
The transcript is below.
JOY BEHAR: I’m going to get in trouble for this, but you know what? I have a theory that you can’t find any saints any more because of psycho-tropic medication. I think that the old days the saints were hearing voices and they didn’t have any thorazine to calm them down. [laughter] Now that we have all of this medication available to us, you can’t find a saint any more.
ELISABETH HASSELBECK: I don’t think so, Mother Teresa.
BEHAR: That’s why Mother Teresa had issues. Let’s not forget, she didn’t really believe 100 percent like these saints who were hearing voices. She didn’t hear voices. So the Church said "okay, she does good deeds. Let’s make her a saint." In the old days it used to be you heard voices. They can’t do that anymore.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: They’d cut your hair off. They’d set you on fire. Don’t forget what they did to Joan of Arc.
BEHAR: Because she was hearing voices.
GOLDBERG: They set her on fire. That’s why people stopped saying anything.
BEHAR: Well it was- no, no, no, in the last century before you had medication, they still were hearing voices. I’m telling you.
HASSELBECK: I don’t think they were hearing voices. I think they were committed to their faith and they’d go to death for it.
SHERRI SHEPHERD: Because I hear voices. I hear voices in my head.
BEHAR: Well, duh!
[laughter]
HASSELBECK: I hear voices too.
BEHAR: Medication is in order perhaps!
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It's clear WHO needs the medication.
Ack!
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Re: Church historian claimes saints were psychos hearing voices -
01-11-2008, 05:58 AM
So why didn't the large Negress who proclaimed recently that Christianity predated Judaism speak up? What's her name, Star Jones? (Star, gas giant, whatever . . . )
Was her face buried in the craft service cart?
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Re: Church historian claimes saints were psychos hearing voices -
01-11-2008, 11:51 PM
DONG! Sorry, Joy Behar, that is the wrong answer! And you are not just off the island and out of the contest, you are Lost!
For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off. Psalm 37:28
The Lord's own Word says saints and never once refers to them as crazy unmedicated nutcakes! And what about this, one of my favorites among the Psalms:
Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;
To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;
To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;
To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD. Psalm 145:5-9
Now, as far as Catholic saints go, there we have a parting of the ways. Getting sainthood from the Pope for, say, oozing oil out of your coffin after you die ("Saint" Walpurga). The true saint is sanctified by God's grace, not by an edict from an aging politician in a skullcap and a Rayon nightgown.
Praise the Lord, and take the two-edge sword in thy hand!
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Re: Church historian claimes saints were psychos hearing voices -
01-12-2008, 01:58 AM
Dear Friends,
Sainthood doesn't come from a brain defect, nor from a Pope. Sainthood comes from being seared on the kisser by a seraphim, one of God's own winged cabana boys:
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Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
Isaiah 6:5-8.
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Re: Church historian claimes saints were psychos hearing voices -
01-12-2008, 02:16 AM
What a pity Catholics lack any sense of humour.
In order to be old & wise,you must first be young & stupid.
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