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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
10-01-2016, 03:40 AM
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The God of the bible is the real God...
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So why are you refuting what the Bible says?
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...I know that the one true God does not permit rape...
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Then why does He allow it all through the Old Testament?
WHY DOES HE ALLOW IT TODAY? Sorry for the caps, but you ignored my implied question from my previous post in this thread. He is (according to the Bible, which you have claimed is true) omnipotent and omniscient, which means He knows everything that happens, and controls everything that happens as well. He could stop rapes from happening, but He doesn't. Have you ever wondered why?
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
10-01-2016, 03:48 AM
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This website is trash God is against rape. Why would the God of love and mercy want someones daughter to get raped. I go to church, I read my bible, and I pray. I have battled many trials and tribulations with God's help and one thing for sure is this website is dishonoring his name you can count me done with this website.
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Hi, Scarlet, I'm sorry if you are having a hard time, but you can't really say that God is against rape when God hasn't actually said it Himself.
There are a lot of rapes noted in the Bible. In not one of the instances mentioned does God respond with a specific. "thou shalt not". Usually, there are a lot of detailed instructions about how the girl's father can be properly recompensed (if she is truly blameless) or how the girl ought to be punished for not making a sincere effort to resist.
Sometimes in the Bible you will read about men who just loved the Lord and made every effort to honor His Name, but who will nonetheless offer up daughters and wives to be used sexually by other men, because, hey, they have more important considerations. What you don't read in the Bible is God saying, "That was bad; girls have feelings, too."
The painful fact is that the female sex was created to function in relation to men. I know that can be hard to take, but the Bible kind of punches home that message throughout its many narratives.
If you aren't somebody's daughter or sister or wife, then you're a non-entity in the Bible. And Biblical directives make it very clear that a woman's father or brothers or husband are the injured parties in instances of rape.
Please remember that we only want to share God's Word with you so that you can see the Truth and live your life in the freedom of that Truth.
It's not an easy path, but it's a worthy one.
Encouragingly Yours,
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
10-01-2016, 03:59 AM
Thank you for your inspiring post, Sister Handmaiden. I think one of my favorite Bible rape stories is the story of Amnon and Tamar (2 Samuel 13:1-22). It is such a beautiful story of how Amnon fell in love, tricked Tamar, raped her, and then threw her out to never see her again:
2 Samuel 13:1-19
1 And it came to pass after this, that Absalom the son of David had a fair sister, whose name was Tamar; and Amnon the son of David loved her. 2 And Amnon was so vexed, that he fell sick for his sister Tamar; for she was a virgin; and Amnon thought it hard for him to do anything to her.
3 But Amnon had a friend, whose name was Jonadab, the son of Shimeah David's brother: and Jonadab was a very subtil man.
4 And he said unto him, Why art thou, being the king's son, lean from day to day? wilt thou not tell me? And Amnon said unto him, I love Tamar, my brother Absalom's sister.
5 And Jonadab said unto him, Lay thee down on thy bed, and make thyself sick: and when thy father cometh to see thee, say unto him, I pray thee, let my sister Tamar come, and give me meat, and dress the meat in my sight, that I may see it, and eat it at her hand.
6 So Amnon lay down, and made himself sick: and when the king was come to see him, Amnon said unto the king, I pray thee, let Tamar my sister come, and make me a couple of cakes in my sight, that I may eat at her hand.
7 Then David sent home to Tamar, saying, Go now to thy brother Amnon's house, and dress him meat.
8 So Tamar went to her brother Amnon's house; and he was laid down. And she took flour, and kneaded it, and made cakes in his sight, and did bake the cakes.
9 And she took a pan, and poured them out before him; but he refused to eat. And Amnon said, Have out all men from me. And they went out every man from him.
10 And Amnon said unto Tamar, Bring the meat into the chamber, that I may eat of thine hand. And Tamar took the cakes which she had made, and brought them into the chamber to Amnon her brother.
11 And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister.
12 And she answered him, Nay, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel: do not thou this folly.
13 And I, whither shall I cause my shame to go? and as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the king; for he will not withhold me from thee.
14 Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her.
15 Then Amnon hated her exceedingly; so that the hatred wherewith he hated her was greater than the love wherewith he had loved her. And Amnon said unto her, Arise, be gone.
16 And she said unto him, There is no cause: this evil in sending me away is greater than the other that thou didst unto me. But he would not hearken unto her.
17 Then he called his servant that ministered unto him, and said, Put now this woman out from me, and bolt the door after her.
18 And she had a garment of divers colours upon her: for with such robes were the king's daughters that were virgins apparelled. Then his servant brought her out, and bolted the door after her.
19 And Tamar put ashes on her head, and rent her garment of divers colours that was on her, and laid her hand on her head, and went on crying.
Poor Amnon, for his few minutes of action, two years later he killed by the true villain in this story, his vicious and always conspiring brother Absalom (2 Samuel 13:23-29).
The Holy Bible is full of such heartwarming stories, isn't it? Praise !
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
10-01-2016, 04:32 AM
Miss Basilissa,
This is anything but a heartwarming story. It would take much time and space to explain the story in light of Judaic tradition and what this story teaches us, so I encourage you to do some research on what Rabbis have written. For me to post about it here would only fall on deaf ears but you seem to be one who is educated and interested in the truth of the matter - most of the time.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
10-01-2016, 05:24 AM
Dear Sister Basilissa, don't let the guy in the funny hat trouble you. Jews seems to think that they own the Bible or something.
Many years ago, I was discussing that very same story with a Bible-believing woman who pointed out "She didn't cry out! She didn't cry out!". She said it twice, just like that. Of course, she was making reference to Deuteronomy 22, which shows how well-versed she was regarding her verses.
At the time, God was still working His Way with me and I found myself questioning why an omniscient deity wouldn't know that rapists sometimes cover their victim's mouths, but thanks to prayer, I've found the kind of peace that doesn't bother with those concerns.
Anyway, we mustn't distract seekers from the answers at hand in this thread (as seen in the Bible!) but I would like to leave you with this piece of advice. If you ever have a daughter, don't name her Tamar. Things don't go well for Tamars in the Bible.
Knowingly Yours,
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
10-02-2016, 08:47 AM
Thank you so much Cranky. My husband showed me this thread while I was making sandwiches for my 7-year-old twins, Elizabeth and Mary. (I was showing them how to use all the appliances that day, but they were being good children and studying the bible at the time). I firmly believe in EVERYTHING you say in this and would definitely be willing to be sold out, as long as it meant my husband and the lord remaining happy.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
07-27-2017, 10:43 PM
Bullshit, women are a gift from God without them you wouldn't be alive, would you?
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
07-27-2017, 10:49 PM
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Bullshit...
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This is where you should have put some Scripture to justify your point, instead of blathering on about your personal opinion.
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So you agree that they can be considered as property.
Nice.
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08-27-2017, 12:02 AM
I'm very confused by all this. I thought chastity and purity was what the Lord wanted from me, until my wedding night.
Men have tried but I don't let them because of that??
I'm so confused about what is right by the bible.
Leviticus 21 13-14
And he shall take a wife in her virginity.
A widow, or a divorced woman, or profane, [or] an harlot, these shall he not take: but he shall take a virgin of his own people to wife.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
08-27-2017, 12:29 AM
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...I'm so confused about what is right by the bible.
Leviticus 21 13-14
And he shall take a wife in her virginity.
A widow, or a divorced woman, or profane, [or] an harlot, these shall he not take: but he shall take a virgin of his own people to wife.
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Do you even context?
Leviticus 21:10 "And he that is the high priest among his brethren..."
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
08-27-2017, 12:37 AM
Oh.. i see ..i thought it was for all
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
08-27-2017, 05:06 AM
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I'dlike to point something out, that may be obvious. Rape is a crime, Law=Above the bible. The reason for this is: People like Cranky Old Man
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Throwing a moose out of a plane is also a crime. Just because it is a law doesn't mean it makes any sense. Men create the law, which means laws can be imperfect. Only God's Law makes sense.
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Morals don't lead to a perfect world. They aren't enforced, yet by fear of a god. What happens when people lose fear of God? Anarchy ensues.( which, by the way read the manuscript-Its the perfect government yet not performable by humans due to our basic flaws )
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Morals don't lead to a perfect world. Christian morals lead to a perfect world. There would not be, indeed could not be, anarchy in a world governed by Christian morality because Christians are perfect and therefore without flaws.
See this thread for more on the perfection of Christians.
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Cranky Old Man, if you have any offspring...Hopefully not as extremist as you, I hope they are never raped, and if they are I hope your the first person the Courts turn to. Sick, Pedophilia inflicted man.
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First, Cranky is a True Christian, meaning that his offspring would be safely escorted by a male of his family and not dressed like a provocative slut, greatly decreasing their chances of being raped. Now were a mob of sodomites to show up at Cranky's door demanding to sodomize some visitors that he had never met, Cranky would be obliged to offer the sodomites his virgin daughters rather that have the abomination of sodomy be committed.
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Oh and, we don't need more people, so, baby making needs to go on hold, God didn't make the earth infinite.
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So what if the world isn't infinite? Jesus is coming back any day now and the world will end.
Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
09-21-2017, 04:36 PM
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What is WRONG with you?
Girls can't help the fact that they were born female! We are JUST as good as men, and can do everything they can. And there is PROOF.
Yeah, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
But yours sucks.
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Dont try to change their minds. They are as thick as the Great Wall of China. They scream how people are going to hell while they sit on their couch and do nothing useful with their lives. If they actually followed the bible they would be volunteering at a soup kitchen or a food bank or some other charity.
Also get this... On one of the other threads i was told "True Christians" Dont sin....
Haha. These people have never read the bible. They need to read Romans 3. It is long so i will only put it a small section of it here:
22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith in Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
09-21-2017, 04:45 PM
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Dont try to change their minds. They are as thick as the Great Wall of China. They scream how people are going to hell while they sit on their couch and do nothing useful with their lives. If they actually followed the bible they would be volunteering at a soup kitchen or a food bank or some other charity.
Also get this... On one of the other threads i was told "True Christians" Dont sin....
Haha. These people have never read the bible. They need to read Romans 3. It is long so i will only put it a small section of it here:
22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith in Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
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Sweetie, sweetie, sweetie.
You should use some of the medicine you're prescribing before throwing wild accusations around. You do know that God hates liars, right (Proverbs 12:22)?
Once we are Saved we are cleansed of our sins and cannot sin anymore:
Psalm 119:1-3
1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1 John 3:6-9
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Romans 6:6-8
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter rape -
09-21-2017, 09:28 PM
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Dont try to change their minds. They are as thick as the Great Wall of China. They scream how people are going to hell while they sit on their couch and do nothing useful with their lives. If they actually followed the bible they would be volunteering at a soup kitchen or a food bank or some other charity.
Also get this... On one of the other threads i was told "True Christians" Dont sin....
Haha. These people have never read the bible. They need to read Romans 3. It is long so i will only put it a small section of it here:
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I'm not saying I never sinned before I was saved. The passage you quoted shows us why everyone needs a Saviour. We're all vile sinners from birth. However, if I were to sin wilfully now, I would be lost.
Heb 10:26-31
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
09-24-2017, 02:43 PM
How can you even suggest your daughter being raped? I hope none of you have kids. Thank God I was raised Catholic, we don't think of these sort of things.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
09-24-2017, 05:07 PM
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Howcan you even suggest your daughter being raped? I hope none of you have kids. Thank God I was raised Catholic, we don't think of these sort of things.
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Mrs. Whoring,
The Bible says nothing about letting the men in town rape your sons in lieu of visiting strangers. Proof once again that your boy buggering bishops have it all wrong.
Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
09-24-2017, 09:47 PM
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How can you even suggest your daughter being raped?
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It's in the Bible (Judges 19:22-30). Please complain to God, not to us, if you disagree with His Word and suffer your well deserved consequences!
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09-25-2017, 09:42 AM
But nobody does that now. The Ancient Greeks had man-boy love, but today it would be pedophilia, so no, we can't just mimic everything the Bible, because times have changed!
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Re: Protect your family the Christian way! Get your daughter raped! -
09-25-2017, 10:03 AM
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It's in the Bible (Judges 19:22-30). Please complain to God, not to us, if you disagree with His Word and suffer your well deserved consequences!
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I might like to add, you are kind of cute, Mr. Cranky. I like older men. Maybe if you adjusted your perspective on women and turned your attentions to someone other than Jesus for a while, we could work something out.
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