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Default 100% Pro-Life - 07-15-2007, 09:12 PM

Let me tell you I am 100% Pro-Life.

That means I am opposed to:
Abortion
Assisted suicide
Euthanaisa
Embryonic stem-cell research.

I am sure you are opposed to that as well...However, I am also opposed to:
Capital punishment (The death penalty)
The Iraqi war's continuation.

I am not claiming to be more or less pro-life than you...I am just letting you know that I'm 100% pro-life, like you (are you?)
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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-15-2007, 09:21 PM

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Let me tell you I am 100% Pro-Life.

That means I am opposed to:
Abortion
Assisted suicide
Euthanaisa
Embryonic stem-cell research.

I am sure you are opposed to that as well...However, I am also opposed to:
Capital punishment (The death penalty)
The Iraqi war's continuation.

I am not claiming to be more or less pro-life than you...I am just letting you know that I'm 100% pro-life, like you (are you?)
No. We are 100% pro-God. That means that if God wants someone destroyed, we want them destroyed too. How do you reconcile your opposition to capital punishment with the fact that God commands it in scripture?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Does God want sodomites executed or doesn't He?


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-15-2007, 09:26 PM

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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-15-2007, 09:33 PM

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No. We are 100% pro-God. That means that if God wants someone destroyed, we want them destroyed too. How do you reconcile your opposition to capital punishment with the fact that God commands it in scripture?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Does God want sodomites executed or doesn't He?

Now I will tell you about Jesus and the woman sentenced to death via adultery (John 8:1-11) The Pharisees wanted her killed, but what does Jesus say?

“Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

They all walked away, because they had all sinned at least once in their lives. Jesus asked the woman, Has anyone condemned you? and she said: No, and He says:

“Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”

God does not want sinners to die, but to change their ways and live...
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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-15-2007, 09:54 PM

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Now I will tell you about Jesus and the woman sentenced to death via adultery (John 8:1-11) The Pharisees wanted her killed, but what does Jesus say?

“Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

They all walked away, because they had all sinned at least once in their lives.
That was befo'e His (temporary) death on the cross. Also, them was all dirty joos that He had been talkin' to. True Christians™ is washeded in the Blood o' the Lamb and is without sin, so we is entitled to throw the first stone. Praise!

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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-15-2007, 10:03 PM

Let's face it, ALL PEOPLE SIN.

"For we all have sinned and thus fall short of God's glory..."


I'd think you'd recognize this verse...You quote it all the time in your pamphlet.

And enough with your anti-Semitic talk...Jesus said:

"I am the good shepherd. I lay down my life for my sheep. No one takes my life from me. I lay it down willingly. I have the power to lay it down, and the power to take it back up again."
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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-15-2007, 10:18 PM

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Let's face it, ALL PEOPLE SIN.

"For we all have sinned and thus fall short of God's glory..."


I'd think you'd recognize this verse...You quote it all the time in your pamphlet.
Actually, I does not recognize that sin version of the Lord's Word. I reads the KJV1611 and nothin' else, thank you. But as to the verse you is referrin' to:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; - Romans 3:23

That just go to show that everybody need Jesus so they can become True Christians™.
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And enough with your anti-Semitic talk...Jesus said:

"I am the good shepherd. I lay down my life for my sheep. No one takes my life from me. I lay it down willingly. I have the power to lay it down, and the power to take it back up again."
Where do this verse say you can't tell the Truth about joos? Here be a verse that tell you all about how connivin' they is:

For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men - 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15


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Let's face it, ALL PEOPLE SIN.

"For we all have sinned and thus fall short of God's glory..."


I'd think you'd recognize this verse...You quote it all the time in your pamphlet.
All people HAVE SINNED, correct. But how do you turn that into the present tense? Only by twisting the scripture and denying the power of Jesus.


O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.


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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-15-2007, 11:38 PM

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All people HAVE SINNED, correct. But how do you turn that into the present tense? Only by twisting the scripture and denying the power of Jesus.
So you say God brainwashes us to do his word. So you say, once you turn your life to him, he snaps his fingers and says, "That's it, you are incapable of sin!"

But what would happen to your dignity? Your status as his son, rather than his slave? Your RIGHT to be REWARDED?
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Let me tell you I am 100% Pro-Life.

That means I am opposed to:
Abortion
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Embryonic stem-cell research.
I am 100% pro choice. You are a man, and you are daring to tell women what they can and cannot do to their own body? Are you telling me that if your wife or daughter were raped you would force them to keep that baby? That if your wife or daughter would most likely die if they attempted to bring that baby to term, you would want them to keep it??

As to stem cell research, someone who claims to be pro-life should support it. Stem cell research has the potential to save many lives, to assist curing cancer, and you are so pro-life that you oppose it?

As to euthanasia, you would rather let someone who is already definitely going to die suffer in unspeakable agony rather than letting them go in peace?? Rather than sparing them weeks or months of unspeakable pain??? I almost hope that at the end of your life you experience such pain, so then we could see just how much you want to live like that, except that I wouldn't wish such pain on a person.

Sorry, but I find your attitudes here rather awful.



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I am 100% pro choice. You are a man, and you are daring to tell women what they can and cannot do to their own body? Are you telling me that if your wife or daughter were raped you would force them to keep that baby? That if your wife or daughter would most likely die if they attempted to bring that baby to term, you would want them to keep it??
For rape and incest, there's always ADOPTION.
As for the life in danger, to suggest a baby should be killed to save the life of a grown woman is deplorable.

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As to stem cell research, someone who claims to be pro-life should support it. Stem cell research has the potential to save many lives, to assist curing cancer, and you are so pro-life that you oppose it?
I am not opposed to all stem-cell research (I think adult stem cells, can, and have, saved many lives). I am only opposed to embryonic stem-cell research (why kill several pre-born embryos to save one life?)

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As to euthanasia, you would rather let someone who is already definitely going to die suffer in unspeakable agony rather than letting them go in peace?? Rather than sparing them weeks or months of unspeakable pain??? I almost hope that at the end of your life you experience such pain, so then we could see just how much you want to live like that, except that I wouldn't wish such pain on a person.

Sorry, but I find your attitudes here rather awful.
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For rape and incest, there's always ADOPTION.
Have you ever been raped? It is the most horrible experience one can go through. And after going through a horrifying ordeal, to force the victim to carry the resulting parasite??

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As for the life in danger, to suggest a baby should be killed to save the life of a grown woman is deplorable.
What you just said is deplorable. You would sacrifice a life, an actual life, in favor of something which is not yet a life. It is a bunch of cells. It is the potential to become a person, and you would KILL an ACTUAL PERSON for THAT???

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I am not opposed to all stem-cell research (I think adult stem cells, can, and have, saved many lives). I am only opposed to embryonic stem-cell research (why kill several pre-born embryos to save one life?)
If those women were having abortions or miscarriages anyway, you would rather those foetuses become medical waste rather than use them to help save lives??

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Sorry, I don't believe in your god (as should be evident by my signature). I do believe that reading your post has added some unneeded disgust to my day.
There's a whole lot more I'd like to say too, except I won't stoop to that level, so I won't.



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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-16-2007, 01:19 AM

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Have you ever been raped? It is the most horrible experience one can go through. And after going through a horrifying ordeal, to force the victim to carry the resulting parasite??
Calling ANY human being, no matter how small, a parasite, is pure evil! (Maybe you do need an exorcism)
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What you just said is deplorable. You would sacrifice a life, an actual life, in favor of something which is not yet a life. It is a bunch of cells. It is the potential to become a person, and you would KILL an ACTUAL PERSON for THAT???
Hello...Life begins at conception...If it didn't, why do babies move a lot in the mother's womb?
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If those women were having abortions or miscarriages anyway, you would rather those foetuses become medical waste rather than use them to help save lives??
I would not have either. They deserve a proper burial.
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Sorry, I don't believe in your god (as should be evident by my signature). I do believe that reading your post has added some unneeded disgust to my day.
Hopefully, you'll get sick of the disgust, and turn to the Lord!
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There's a whole lot more I'd like to say too, except I won't stoop to that level, so I won't.
Any guesses what that means?
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Calling ANY human being, no matter how small, a parasite, is pure evil!
It is not yet a human being. It is the potential of a person, not yet a person. Have you ever heard of maternal mirror syndrome? That is when a foetus makes a mother sick or die. Such cases call for termination. In such cases the foetus displays purely parasitic behavior. Technically, what is a parasite? An organism that is dependant on another organism to survive. Before a baby is born can it survive outside the mother's womb? Nope, therefore, parasite, no matter how much you dislike the word.

BTW, you still haven't answered what I said about the ordeal of rape.

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Oh, boy, Houston, we got a live one here! LOL!!!!

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Hello...Life begins at conception...If it didn't, why do babies move a lot in the mother's womb?
It is not yet a person. It does not yet breathe, think, act. It is a potential person. Not yet a person.

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I would not have either. They deserve a proper burial.

So you'd rather they rot in the dirt than help save lives?

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Hopefully, you'll get sick of the disgust, and turn to the Lord!
Sorry, but I'm perfectly happy where I am. What's more, your religion would not exist were it not for paganism. I think even these landoverians would agree with me about the relation of catholicism to paganism.

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It means that your attitude on these things disgusts me, to say the least.



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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-16-2007, 01:44 AM

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It is not yet a human being. It is the potential of a person, not yet a person. Have you ever heard of maternal mirror syndrome? That is when a foetus makes a mother sick or die. Such cases call for termination. In such cases the foetus displays purely parasitic behavior. Technically, what is a parasite? An organism that is dependant on another organism to survive. Before a baby is born can it survive outside the mother's womb? Nope, therefore, parasite, no matter how much you dislike the word.
Surgery to save the mother's life may be permissible-But ONLY if the purpose is to save her life, NOT to kill the baby within.

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BTW, you still haven't answered what I said about the ordeal of rape.
I will address that now. Yes, rape is an ordeal. So is the death of your baby. Which one is a bigger one, may I ask?

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It is not yet a person. It does not yet breathe, think, act. It is a potential person. Not yet a person.
1. A baby can breathe inside the mother's womb (through the umbilical cord, same way it gets its food)
2. Newborn babies can't think either. Are they not persons either?
3. Excuse me? Kicking and moving are acting (Unless you mean thoughtful acts-another thing newborn babies can't do. You wouldn't burn a newborn baby to death, would you?)


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So you'd rather they rot in the dirt than help save lives?
1. If they are already dead, they should be buried. If the embryos are still alive, KEEP THEM ALIVE!
2. Embryonic stem-cell research has not saved one life so far (And don't bore me with your potential medical breakthrough blah blah blah blah nonsense)


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Sorry, but I'm perfectly happy where I am. What's more, your religion would not exist were it not for paganism. I think even these landoverians would agree with me about the relation of catholicism to paganism.
1. The "landoverians" are Christians too...
2. The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church is THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH! No trace of paganism in us!


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It means that your attitude on these things disgusts me, to say the least.
And your current stance disgusts me as well. But I am praying for you, that you may see the error of your ways, pray for forgiveness, and thus end up in heaven.
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The Roman Catholic "Church" is Not Christian

Practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic religion contradict the Bible repeatedly. It is the largest cult in the world and most preachers will not openly say so because it is so large. For Catholics who read this, please remember this: the person that tells you the truth is the one that cares.

For a glimpse of the atrocities committed by the Roman Catholic religion, do a net search on the Inquisition or the Crusades. During the Inquisition, the Catholic religion killed millions. Why? Primarily to suppress any and all opposition to the pope. Side "benefits" included taking the material wealth of its victims and showing the pope's power. The Catholic Inquisitors tortured, crippled, burned, and imprisioned millions of people. Whatever happened to love your enemies? (Matthew 5:44)

Before we get to specific problems with Catholic doctrine, let's review how this bloodthirsty organization treated a man who simply wanted to get the Bible into the hands of the common people. In the late 1300s John Wycilf translated the scriptures from the Latin Vulgate. Some 40 odd years after his death, the Catholic religion dug up his bones and burned them calling him an arch-heretick. In the 1500's William Tyndale sought to translate the Bible into the language of the common people, English. He could not gain approval from the Catholic religon so he worked as an outlaw on the run in Europe, translating the Bible. He was eventually captured, condemned and executed in 1536. It is because of people like these men, Tyndale and Wycliffe, that we have the scriptures today. If the Catholic religion had its way, we'd still be in ignorance about the Bible and enslaved to the pope. Time fails me here to tell of other marytrs like John Hus, John Rogers, etc. who were killed by popish persons.

I'll list the catholic tradition first and then what the Bible has to say about the matter.


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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

1) It is devilish to forbid God's people to marry when He has given marriage to be received with thanksgiving.
1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).

Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.

Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.

3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.

1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. A perpetual virgin.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary and Joseph indeed had children. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.

Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.

Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When He came to redeem mankind, He laid aside His glory and was made like unto sinful man so that He could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means He had no beginning.

Isaiah
43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [If Mary gave birth to God, she'd be God.]
Psalm
93:2 Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting.

Micah
5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler [Jesus] in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Philippians
2:6 Who [Jesus], being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Pope called Holy Father.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - The term Holy Father is only found one time in the entire Bible. It was when Jesus prayed before He and His disciples went to the garden of Gethsemane. He referred to God the Father as Holy Father. It is blasphemy to call a man by God's name

John
17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.

Proverbs
30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
The pope is a man who takes upon himself honor which belongs to no human being. Even the very name by which he allows himself to be called (Holy Father) is highly presumptuous and blasphemous (see above).

One does not need the pope to determine what God's will is. The Bible says that God has given the Holy Ghost to each believer and that He (the Holy Ghost) guides and leads us into all truth. All a believer needs is the Bible and the Holy Ghost to know the will of the Lord. Popery has been treacherous, but worse, each pope has been the blind leading the blind. Jesus said that both will fall into the ditch. Catholics, come out of this system that cannot save and know Jesus for youself, intimate and up-close.

NOTE: Purgatory is supposedly a place where a person is purified of sins--even popes supposedly go there. The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the one that purifies us of our sins. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.... When a person dies their eternal home is sealed--heaven or hell--no in between. Hebrews 9:27 ...it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, people worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.

Exodus
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The mass. Through transubstantiation, the wafer/host and the wine supposedly become the actual blood and body of Jesus Christ when the priest prays over them.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus died once for sins, never to be repeated. He sits on the right hand of God and does not reappear in the mass as a mass of blood and flesh.

Hebrews
10:12 But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
John
19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

1 Corinthians
11:24 And when he [Jesus] had given thanks, he brake it [bread], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come (not for the forgiveness of sins or to receive Jesus).

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Saved, in part, by good works.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Good works are the fruits that grow out of being saved. They do not make you saved. An apple does not make its tree an apple tree, it was already an apple tree before any apples appeared. When you see the apples; however, you know what kind of tree it is. If a person is saved, he will shew forth good works because he has the spirit of Christ in him. The good works don't make him saved only the blood of Jesus can do that.

I John
1:7b ...the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Acts 16:31b
...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

Romans
3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

What about James 2:20 "faith without works is dead"?

The kind of faith that saves is a faith that shows forth the works of God. Even devils believe in Jesus and tremble (James 2:19). Many people believe in Jesus but they won't follow Him. They have a faith, but not the kind that saves. If a person has true faith in Jesus, the Holy Ghost dwells in him and will cause good works will show forth in his life. The good works confirm the faith by which the person was saved. James 2:21-23 uses Abraham as an example. Abraham believed God so when God asked him to sacrifice his son Isaac, Abraham, out of his faith in God, offered up Isaac.


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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The church is founded on Peter.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus Christ is the foundation of the church. Peter was a man like you and me. Jesus called Peter Satan in Matthew 16:23 when Peter rebuked Jesus dying. When Cornelius tried to worship Peter, Peter responded, "Stand up; I myself also am a man." (Acts 10:26). The pope needs to remember Acts 10:26 when he has men bowing to him and kissing his hand like he is worthy of worship.

1 Corinthians
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Matthew
21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected [Jesus], the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Confessing sins to a priest. Petitioning saints and Mary.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - We are to confess our sins and needs to God alone.

I John
1:9 If we confess our sins, he [God] is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Matthew
6:9, 12 After this manner...pray ye: Our Father... forgive us....

1 Timothy
2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus [not Mary, not saints, not priests, not the pope];

I John 2:1, ...And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

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There are many other scriptures that could have been used here to testify against the doctrines of the catholic religion. There are also many other doctrines of the catholic religion which could have been refuted (e.g. the sacraments, receiving the Holy Ghost, salvation through the catholic religion, penance, rosary, etc.).

* * * *
The Catholic religion has a history of taking the money of poor widows in order to say masses for the dead (which do no good) and collecting the material possessions of nuns. In Italy, the heart of Roman Catholicism, there is an often used saying that goes, "Without money, they don't sing the mass." That is really pitiful on several fronts--1) mass is blasphemous and people who trust in it are hell-bound 2) there's no such thing as purgatory and 3) the gift of God is without price.

Roman Catholicism today is probably the wealthiest government in the world. It owns a good share of America's hospitals and has healthy real estate interests. The bottom line is, if you want to get right with God, you have to go through His Son, Jesus Christ, not some religious organization.

That means Landover Baptist Church, God's favorite.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Hello...Life begins at conception...If it didn't, why do babies move a lot in the mother's womb?
Hate to burst your creationist bubble, but it is not "human" until around the end of the first trimester when the embryo matures into a foetus

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At this point, all major structures, including hands, feet, head, brain, and other organs are present, but they continue to grow, develop, and become more functional.[6] When the fetal stage commences, a fetus is typically about 30 mm (1.2 inches) in length, and the heart is beating.[7] The fetus bends the head, and also makes general movements and startles that involve the whole body.[8] Brain stem activity has been detected as early as 54 days after conception.[9] Some fingerprint formation can be seen from the beginning of the fetal stage.
In other words, before (approx.) the eighth week, it isn't a human, after words, it technically is. Isn't science a wonder?
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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-16-2007, 02:18 AM

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Surgery to save the mother's life may be permissible-But ONLY if the purpose is to save her life, NOT to kill the baby within.
It seems you're now contradicting yourself. A moment ago you said you didn't think it was ok.

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I will address that now. Yes, rape is an ordeal. So is the death of your baby. Which one is a bigger one, may I ask?
I would have to say rape. Having an unwelcome stranger violate one's body in an unwelcome manner would have to be the worst ordeal a woman could ever go through.

But seeing as you follow a religion whose pope has hidden AND sanctioned child molesters so they could KEEP ON RAPING YOUNG BOYS, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

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THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! (Finally, I agree with my separated brethren on this board)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Oh dear gods..... I haven't laughed this hard in a long, long time.

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1. A baby can breathe inside the mother's womb (through the umbilical cord, same way it gets its food)
2. Newborn babies can't think either. Are they not persons either?
3. Excuse me? Kicking and moving are acting (Unless you mean thoughtful acts-another thing newborn babies can't do. You wouldn't burn a newborn baby to death, would you?)
Once a baby IS born, it is a true life, a true person. During the first trimester, it would hardly be moving and kicking. It is just developing cells. You don't know much about biology, do you? If you knew anything about abortion procedures, you'd know that abortion is only permitted within a certain time.

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1. If they are already dead, they should be buried. If the embryos are still alive, KEEP THEM ALIVE!
2. Embryonic stem-cell research has not saved one life so far (And don't bore me with your potential medical breakthrough blah blah blah blah nonsense)
It hasn't had the chance to do much because horrid people much like yourselves prohibit scientists the chance to properly work with and develop stem cell research.

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1. The "landoverians" are Christians too...
2. The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church is THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH! No trace of paganism in us!
Oh, please spare me. I could provide you with a whole list of books to show you, piece by piece, just how copied your religion is. The OT is based on Judaism. The NT, or the jesus myth, is based on the Pagan sources also. Mythraism, gnosticisim, a touch of the Roman myths etc...why even your 'mary queen of heaven' is actually Isis in disguise.

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And your current stance disgusts me as well. But I am praying for you, that you may see the error of your ways, pray for forgiveness, and thus end up in heaven.
Don't trouble yourself.
I don't believe in heaven or hell, but if there was a heaven or hell, I'd happily volunteer to go to 'hell' rather than spend an eternity in 'heaven' if it were full of people like you.



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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-16-2007, 02:37 AM

Sweet Jesus, where do I begin?

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The Roman Catholic "Church" is Not Christian

Practically all precepts of the Roman Catholic religion contradict the Bible repeatedly. It is the largest cult in the world and most preachers will not openly say so because it is so large. For Catholics who read this, please remember this: the person that tells you the truth is the one that cares.
The person who tells the truth does care. He does NOT make personal attacks, unlike a certain little milkshakehead.

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For a glimpse of the atrocities committed by the Roman Catholic religion, do a net search on the Inquisition or the Crusades. During the Inquisition, the Catholic religion killed millions. Why? Primarily to suppress any and all opposition to the pope. Side "benefits" included taking the material wealth of its victims and showing the pope's power. The Catholic Inquisitors tortured, crippled, burned, and imprisioned millions of people. Whatever happened to love your enemies? (Matthew 5:44)
The Church never put anyone to death. They just tried heretics, and if found guilty, turned them over to local authorities for sentencing.

Also, Pope John Paul II repeatedly acknowledged the Church's sins of that time (the torture), and prayed often for God's forgiveness...I bet you wouldn't say that about Henry VIII and Elizabeth I's slaughter of us Catholics back in the 1500s...

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Before we get to specific problems with Catholic doctrine, let's review how this bloodthirsty organization treated a man who simply wanted to get the Bible into the hands of the common people. In the late 1300s John Wycilf translated the scriptures from the Latin Vulgate. Some 40 odd years after his death, the Catholic religion dug up his bones and burned them calling him an arch-heretick. In the 1500's William Tyndale sought to translate the Bible into the language of the common people, English. He could not gain approval from the Catholic religon so he worked as an outlaw on the run in Europe, translating the Bible. He was eventually captured, condemned and executed in 1536. It is because of people like these men, Tyndale and Wycliffe, that we have the scriptures today. If the Catholic religion had its way, we'd still be in ignorance about the Bible and enslaved to the pope. Time fails me here to tell of other marytrs like John Hus, John Rogers, etc. who were killed by popish persons.
And what about people like Thomas More, Mary Queen of Scots, Edmund Campion, etc. who were slaughtered under Henry VIII & later Elizabeth I?

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I'll list the catholic tradition first and then what the Bible has to say about the matter.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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Okay, what do you call your male parent?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

1) It is devilish to forbid God's people to marry when He has given marriage to be received with thanksgiving.
1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).

Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.

Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.

3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.

1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?

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It is a custom. We have granted exceptions to priests who were already married before they became priests. In fact, the Eastern Rite Catholics (loyal to the Pope, but maintaining their rites)...most of their priests are married.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. A perpetual virgin.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary and Joseph indeed had children. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.

Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

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Could somebody tell me WHY ARE YOU QUOTING THE PHARISEES?

Also, cousins and very close friends are often referred to as brothers and sisters internationally. I will quote Benjamin Franklin here:

"A brother may not be a friend, but a friend will always be a brother."

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.

Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?

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That was a PAGAN GODDESS the Lord was against-the Blessed Mother hadn't even been conceived yet, much less be the queen of heaven.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When He came to redeem mankind, He laid aside His glory and was made like unto sinful man so that He could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means He had no beginning.

Isaiah
43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [If Mary gave birth to God, she'd be God.]
Psalm
93:2 Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting.

Micah
5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler [Jesus] in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Philippians
2:6 Who [Jesus], being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

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If Jesus is God, and Mary is His mother, wouldn't you say Mary is the Mother of God?
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Pope called Holy Father.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - The term Holy Father is only found one time in the entire Bible. It was when Jesus prayed before He and His disciples went to the garden of Gethsemane. He referred to God the Father as Holy Father. It is blasphemy to call a man by God's name

John
17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.

Proverbs
30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
The pope is a man who takes upon himself honor which belongs to no human being. Even the very name by which he allows himself to be called (Holy Father) is highly presumptuous and blasphemous (see above).

One does not need the pope to determine what God's will is. The Bible says that God has given the Holy Ghost to each believer and that He (the Holy Ghost) guides and leads us into all truth. All a believer needs is the Bible and the Holy Ghost to know the will of the Lord. Popery has been treacherous, but worse, each pope has been the blind leading the blind. Jesus said that both will fall into the ditch. Catholics, come out of this system that cannot save and know Jesus for youself, intimate and up-close.

NOTE: Purgatory is supposedly a place where a person is purified of sins--even popes supposedly go there. The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the one that purifies us of our sins. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.... When a person dies their eternal home is sealed--heaven or hell--no in between. Hebrews 9:27 ...it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

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And I suppose altar calls, sola scriptura, and "personal Lord and Savior" ARE in the Bible?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, people worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.

Exodus
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
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Okay, throw away your cameras, paintbrushes, and delete your computer graphics program! Matter of fact, get rid of this big banner on your website!

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The mass. Through transubstantiation, the wafer/host and the wine supposedly become the actual blood and body of Jesus Christ when the priest prays over them.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus died once for sins, never to be repeated. He sits on the right hand of God and does not reappear in the mass as a mass of blood and flesh.

Hebrews
10:12 But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
John
19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

1 Corinthians
11:24 And when he [Jesus] had given thanks, he brake it [bread], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. (This actually proves my point)
11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. (So does this)
11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come (not for the forgiveness of sins or to receive Jesus).
If you will look in the Gospels, Jesus said "This is my blood, poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Saved, in part, by good works.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Good works are the fruits that grow out of being saved. They do not make you saved. An apple does not make its tree an apple tree, it was already an apple tree before any apples appeared. When you see the apples; however, you know what kind of tree it is. If a person is saved, he will shew forth good works because he has the spirit of Christ in him. The good works don't make him saved only the blood of Jesus can do that.

I John
1:7b ...the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Acts 16:31b
...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

Romans
3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

What about James 2:20 "faith without works is dead"?

The kind of faith that saves is a faith that shows forth the works of God. Even devils believe in Jesus and tremble (James 2:19). Many people believe in Jesus but they won't follow Him. They have a faith, but not the kind that saves. If a person has true faith in Jesus, the Holy Ghost dwells in him and will cause good works will show forth in his life. The good works confirm the faith by which the person was saved. James 2:21-23 uses Abraham as an example. Abraham believed God so when God asked him to sacrifice his son Isaac, Abraham, out of his faith in God, offered up Isaac.


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I will bring up "The Case Of The Sinning Minister":

Let's say your minister became a "born-again Christian" at the age of 15. Now he is 75. In the intervening 60 years the man has lived an exemplary life. So far as he or anyone else knows, he never has committed a single serious sin. But then, at age 75, comes a change. During one horrible day, he robs a bank, deliberately runs over a cat with his car, commits adultery, blasphemes loudly in public, murders a neighbor, and then commits suicide, dying unrepentant.

My question to the Fundamentalist: Does your minister go to heaven or hell?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The church is founded on Peter.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus Christ is the foundation of the church. Peter was a man like you and me. Jesus called Peter Satan in Matthew 16:23 when Peter rebuked Jesus dying. When Cornelius tried to worship Peter, Peter responded, "Stand up; I myself also am a man." (Acts 10:26). The pope needs to remember Acts 10:26 when he has men bowing to him and kissing his hand like he is worthy of worship.

1 Corinthians
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Matthew
21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected [Jesus], the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
The word "satan" means adversary, obstacle. Peter was trying to interfere in Jesus' passion at the time (Jesus said "Get behind me satan"-lowercase s)

I'll give you a nice little story of Jesus & Peter (takes place after the Resurrection)

When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me more than these?"
"Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Feed my lambs."
16Again Jesus said, "Simon son of John, do you truly love me?"
He answered, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Take care of my sheep."

17 The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?"
Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you."


Jesus said, "Feed my sheep. 18 I tell you the truth, when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted; but when you are old you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go." 19Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, "Follow me!"



That is how Jesus made Peter the first Pope, His Vicar, and Head of the Church.



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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Confessing sins to a priest. Petitioning saints and Mary.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - We are to confess our sins and needs to God alone.

I John
1:9 If we confess our sins, he [God] is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Matthew
6:9, 12 After this manner...pray ye: Our Father... forgive us....

1 Timothy
2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus [not Mary, not saints, not priests, not the pope];

I John 2:1, ...And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

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John 20:21-23
"He therefore said to them again, 'Peace be to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you'. When He had said this, He breathed upon them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit; whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained'."

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There are many other scriptures that could have been used here to testify against the doctrines of the catholic religion. There are also many other doctrines of the catholic religion which could have been refuted (e.g. the sacraments, receiving the Holy Ghost, salvation through the catholic religion, penance, rosary, etc.).
Then bring them up. I'm home all night...

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The Catholic religion has a history of taking the money of poor widows in order to say masses for the dead (which do no good) and collecting the material possessions of nuns. In Italy, the heart of Roman Catholicism, there is an often used saying that goes, "Without money, they don't sing the mass." That is really pitiful on several fronts--1) mass is blasphemous and people who trust in it are hell-bound 2) there's no such thing as purgatory and 3) the gift of God is without price.
That was an illicit practice-but has been abolished since.

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Roman Catholicism today is probably the wealthiest government in the world. It owns a good share of America's hospitals and has healthy real estate interests. The bottom line is, if you want to get right with God, you have to go through His Son, Jesus Christ, not some religious organization.

That means Landover Baptist Church, God's favorite.

And I'll be seeing you at Eternity's Biggest Bonfire from my skybox seat!
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Default Re: 100% Pro-Life - 07-16-2007, 02:44 AM

So,Father TM since you're so against abortion we can only assume that you must then be in favour of contraception,which would avoid the problem of abortion?


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