[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

Allow me to refute some of your claims, brother B-J

I look forward to reading your response friend.

Both the Spanish Inquisition and the Nazis used religion to justify their actions. In fact, the Spanish Inquisition was not unlike your organization in their readiness to condemn anyone who was the least bit different. I suppose the major difference was their license to torture and kill them as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

The Nazis and the Spanish Inquisition were all done by Catholics, not Christians so they are effectively atheists.

The New Deal however was totally run by atheists.

You appear to be missing a third point.

Only the unsaved seem to see this.

I will repeat it for your benefit:






Okay?

The absurdity of this point is just astonishing. The point of being an Atheist is that you follow a moral code which you impose upon yourself without outside pressure, a moral code not too different from the one to which you claim to adhere. Of course they realise that there is a difference between humans and animals, however, that does not negate the fact that they are also living organisms, and as such should be treated with respect.

Which is exactly what is wrong with Atheists. Without the sanction of God an atheists doesn't have the mandate to work a horse to death. You need the moral clarity of Christianity for that.

I just want to answer this one in short by saying that the Romans were not Atheists, but polytheistic, which means that they worshipped many gods.

I think you are evading my point here with petty details.

This appears to contradict your own point no? See point number 4.

How so friend?

Apart from the rampant spelling mistakes, you seem to have missed one crucial point of Atheism. They do not believe that there is ANY god. None at all. So Atheism is not a religion, merely a belief to which people adhere.

It takes faith not to believe in God against the overwhelming evidence for Him. Therefore Atheism is a religion. Everyone knows God exists because He talks to us in the back of our heads.

Also, I notice that you once again have offered a $10,000 reward to anyone who can rebutt your claims (although I am assuming that would involve having you denounce your faith, an unlikely outcome) but I am sure that you do not possess this level of liquidity, as you are equally assured that you will never admit that anyone can shake yoru beliefs to their very core.

Have a nice day.

You are partially right; nothing an atheist says can change any of us TRUE Christians(tm) of Landover opinion on the existence of God.

[LardBoy]

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Everyone knows God exists because He talks to us in the back of our heads.

Mabye you should see a psychiatrist... Hearing voices in the back of your head is not a sign of mental health (Yes, that counts for god's voice too).

[Bobby-Joe]

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Mabye you should see a psychiatrist... Hearing voices in the back of your head is not a sign of mental health (Yes, that counts for god's voice too).

Give me a break: do I look like the type of man who would shoot up a school bush full of special needs children because God told me to?

[bobbythejet]

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The following ten points absolutely destroy Atheism.

#1 Atheists have no mercy and pity for others.
Time and time again history as shown with the Nazis, the Communists, the New Deal, the Spanish Inquisition that atheists will behave in a cruel and callous manner towards thier fellow man.

#2 To an Atheist a natural disaster is just a random event
Only a Christian can understand that when a building collapses in an earthquake that is the hand of God slaying sinners. Atheists are willfully blind to the unconditional tough love of God for His creation. In short Atheists lack pity for those who are killed in these disasters.

#4To an atheists there is no difference between an animal and a human
To an Atheist A pig or a human, an ape or a human, what is the difference? For Atheists they are all products of random chance. If Atheists were true to their beliefs they would be running around naked and tossing feces at each other and eating other people. They lack the compassion for their fellow man to realize animals are just tools placed here for us to use as we see fit.

#5 Only biblical faith offers objective standards of good and evil.
One just has to look at atheists societies like ancient Rome to see they had completely different morality than the Christian society of the West now. Rome lived by a philosophy of might makes right tat gave Rome the moral superiority to invade their neighbors. Contrast that with America's war of liberation in Iraq and Mexico in 1848. Christians have the morality to know when their neighbors are evil need to be destroyed.

#6 Atheists have no reason to feel pity for anyone or anything.
Sure Atheists may feel pity in their hearts of hearts but philosophically they have no reason to. Carving another human being up to them is just like carving a pig.

#7 Threw out human history there have never been any other gods but God.
God is the only God humanity ever had. Sure various confused pagans called God by different names like Thor, Zeus, Angra Mainyu and Kali but that has always been God. The past was not atheists, it Was Christian.

#8 There were false gods, but they were false because they exist within the Universe, not outside it.
No atheist can show us a false god who existed outside the universe so case closed.

#9 Any religion younger than Christianity is just a copy of Christianity.
Since Christianity is the Gold standard of morality all other religions just copy Christian doctrine like Islam. Atheism is younger than Christianity therefor Atheism is a mockery of Christianity.

#10 Only Christianity has ever had the idea of an eternal, infinite creator God.
No one, not the Egyptians, the Meso-Americans or even the Sumerians has a infinite God. Even Atheism doesn't have an infinite creator God.

I await your rebuttals to my points Atheists.

Bobby-Joe, where is number three?

[Lycia The Repentant]

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Bobby-Joe, where is number three?

Bobby Jet if you had read through this thread you would have seen that both Bobby-Joe and I have reposted point number 3 numerous times. In fact Bobby-Joe posted it again a total of 3 posts above your's. Please read threads you are replying to carefully in the future.

[Secret]

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Bobby Jet if you had read through this thread you would have seen that both Bobby-Joe and I have reposted point number 3 numerous times. In fact Bobby-Joe posted it again a total of 3 posts above your's. Please read threads you are replying to carefully in the future.

Well, it appears to be non-existant.

Could you please reiterate Brother BJ's 3rd point?...
Assuming you can read it and are literate.

[Drynwhyl]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

You're all a bunch of ignorant, white trash, retard bigots
If everything we do in live is predetermined by a god before the earth ever existed and all act the way a god has made us to do so, it brings us to 2 conclusions:
1. There is no hell.
OR
2. God is evil

[Secret]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

The Nazis and the Spanish Inquisition were all done by Catholics, not Christians so they are effectively atheists.

The New Deal however was totally run by atheists.

Please, give your definition of Atheism.
It appears you have it incorrect, despite having it told to you several times in the last several pages.

I am expecting your genuine definition.. as opinions like "Atheism means the Satan" does not answer the question, and only further questions the integrity of your religious background.

Again, please define Atheism in your own words. A simple enough task for one whom APPEARS to be avidly against the very notion.

Looking forward to reading a response of yours that actually doesn't dodge the question .

[Secret]

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You're all a bunch of ignorant, white trash, retard bigots
If everything we do in live is predetermined by a god before the earth ever existed and all act the way a god has made us to do so, it brings us to 2 conclusions:
1. There is no hell.
OR
2. God is evil

Have no fear.. the more you read into this forum, the bigger of a joke it is.
You can rest easy knowing that it's very likely that this is all a joke.


Most of them are clued up with the internet memes, which suggests further that alot of trollbait is present here.
Actually the very absurdity of the original 9 points is reason enough to think this is all a fake.

Let's face is.. BJ is losing his touch. He's no longer able to make his stuff convincing, and noone's backing him up like they used to.

[Secret]

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Sorry, 4th line in previous comment.
Actually the very absurdity of the original 9 points is reason enough to think this is all a genuine example of a joke.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

Well, it appears to be non-existant.

Could you please reiterate Brother BJ's 3rd point?...
Assuming you can read it and are literate.

Yes, I can read, and yes, I am also literate. Honestly, I don't understand why you couldn't figure out those two simple truths simply based on the fact that I am posting on an internet forum in the American language.

Why should I bother to repost point #3 though? Its already been posted in this thread numerous times and you Godmockers refuse to answer it.

"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him." Proverbs 26:4

Why should I answer you when you cannot do us the simple courtesy of reading the thread and point #3 for yourself?

[Bobby-Joe]

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Sorry, 4th line in previous comment.
Actually the very absurdity of the original 9 points is reason enough to think this is all a genuine example of a joke.

You seem to have a different sense of humor than mine.

I will have to dig up the link again but this point I got from a respectable Christian philosopher. Until then to sum up his point; consider Islam, which billed as by it's believers as Christianity 2.0 and Wicca, which is blatantly a '50s copy of Christianity with the so called bad stuff left out. And then you have things like Mormonism, Theosophy, Deism. Pretty much everything after about 500AD is some modified version of Christianity. Even if they omit the words "God" and "Jesus" and substitute hidden masters or space aliens the message is still the same of the redemption and salvation of humanity.

Why should I answer you when you cannot do us the simple courtesy of reading the thread and point #3 for yourself?

What is with the unsaved and Point #3? Seems quite straightforward to me.

[Cranky Old Man]

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What is with the unsaved and Point #3? Seems quite straightforward to me.

I think it is a hint from God that the unsaved are ignoring.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

I think it is a hint from God that the unsaved are ignoring.

Could be, it's like atheists are willfully blind or something.

[Odin.98]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

Well I thought god or some dumbarse trying to control people with the so called words of god said that only god should judge man, what in gods fucking name are you wankers judging people that don't blindly listen to the shit your feed but find ways to see how things truly work.