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01-15-2007, 09:31 PM
I'LL FREAKING DO IT
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-15-2007, 09:36 PM
Division by zero is an operation for which you cannot find an answer, so it is disallowed. You can understand why if you think about how division and multiplication are related.
12 divided by 6 is 2 because
6 times 2 is 12
12 divided by 0 is x would mean that
0 times x = 12
But no value would work for x because 0 times any number is 0. So division by zero doesn't work.
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-15-2007, 09:38 PM
PUT IF YOU DEVIDE BY ZERO THEN
TIME PARADOX OH SHI-
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-15-2007, 09:39 PM
1/0 is said to be undefined because division is defined in terms of multiplication. a/b = x is defined to mean that b*x = a. There is no x such that 0*x = 1, since 0*x = 0 for all x. Thus 1/0 does not exist, or is not defined, or is undefined.
You wish to introduce a new element (or maybe two elements), infinity, which you wish to append to the real number system. That is not prohibited. After all, that is how we got from natural numbers to integers (appending negative integers and zero), and from integers to rationals (appending ratios of integers), and from rationals to reals (appending limits of convergent sequences), and from reals to complexes (appending the square root of -1). What you end up with is not the real number system, however. Furthermore, if you wish to define the four operations + - * and / for this new system, you probably want them to be the same on real numbers, and just add on the definitions of things like infinity + r and r/infinity, for any real number r.
Some of these work fine. It makes sense to define:
infinity + r = r + infinity = infinity
(-infinity) + r = r + (-infinity) = -infinity
infinity + infinity = infinity
(-infinity) + (-infinity) = -infinity
infinity - r = infinity
(-infinity) - r = -infinity
r - infinity = -infinity
r - (-infinity) = infinity
infinity - (-infinity) = infinity
(-infinity) - infinity = -infinity
infinity * r = r * infinity = infinity for r > 0
(-infinity) * r = r * (-infinity) = -infinity for r > 0
infinity * r = r * infinity = -infinity for r < 0
(-infinity) * r = r * (-infinity) = infinity for r < 0
infinity * infinity = (-infinity) * (-infinity) = infinity
infinity * (-infinity) = (-infinity) * infinity = -infinity
infinity / r = infinity for r > 0
(-infinity) / r = -infinity for r > 0
infinity / r = -infinity for r < 0
(-infinity) / r = infinity for r < 0
r / infinity = 0
r / (-infinity) = 0
Where we get into trouble is with defining the following:
infinity + (-infinity)
(-infinity) + infinity
infinity - infinity
(-infinity) - (-infinity)
0 * infinity
infinity * 0
0 * (-infinity)
(-infinity) * 0
infinity / infinity
infinity / (-infinity)
(-infinity) / infinity
(-infinity) / (-infinity)
infinity / 0 = infinity
(-infinity) / 0 = -infinity
These expressions are called "indeterminate forms." These can all have a large range of different values, depending on exactly where the "infinity" parts came from.
As a result, the system you construct is not closed under addition, subtraction, multiplication, or division.
Sister Talitha
Markswoman, Circumcisionist, Platinum Tither.
HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-15-2007, 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Talitha
1/0 is said to be undefined because division is defined in terms of multiplication. a/b = x is defined to mean that b*x = a. There is no x such that 0*x = 1, since 0*x = 0 for all x. Thus 1/0 does not exist, or is not defined, or is undefined.
You wish to introduce a new element (or maybe two elements), infinity, which you wish to append to the real number system. That is not prohibited. After all, that is how we got from natural numbers to integers (appending negative integers and zero), and from integers to rationals (appending ratios of integers), and from rationals to reals (appending limits of convergent sequences), and from reals to complexes (appending the square root of -1). What you end up with is not the real number system, however. Furthermore, if you wish to define the four operations + - * and / for this new system, you probably want them to be the same on real numbers, and just add on the definitions of things like infinity + r and r/infinity, for any real number r.
Some of these work fine. It makes sense to define:
infinity + r = r + infinity = infinity
(-infinity) + r = r + (-infinity) = -infinity
infinity + infinity = infinity
(-infinity) + (-infinity) = -infinity
infinity - r = infinity
(-infinity) - r = -infinity
r - infinity = -infinity
r - (-infinity) = infinity
infinity - (-infinity) = infinity
(-infinity) - infinity = -infinity
infinity * r = r * infinity = infinity for r > 0
(-infinity) * r = r * (-infinity) = -infinity for r > 0
infinity * r = r * infinity = -infinity for r < 0
(-infinity) * r = r * (-infinity) = infinity for r < 0
infinity * infinity = (-infinity) * (-infinity) = infinity
infinity * (-infinity) = (-infinity) * infinity = -infinity
infinity / r = infinity for r > 0
(-infinity) / r = -infinity for r > 0
infinity / r = -infinity for r < 0
(-infinity) / r = infinity for r < 0
r / infinity = 0
r / (-infinity) = 0
Where we get into trouble is with defining the following:
infinity + (-infinity)
(-infinity) + infinity
infinity - infinity
(-infinity) - (-infinity)
0 * infinity
infinity * 0
0 * (-infinity)
(-infinity) * 0
infinity / infinity
infinity / (-infinity)
(-infinity) / infinity
(-infinity) / (-infinity)
infinity / 0 = infinity
(-infinity) / 0 = -infinity
These expressions are called "indeterminate forms." These can all have a large range of different values, depending on exactly where the "infinity" parts came from.
As a result, the system you construct is not closed under addition, subtraction, multiplication, or division.
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There is also infinity raised to the power of infinity Sister, which gives us a different order of infinity, I believe.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-15-2007, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Enobarbus
There is also infinity raised to the power of infinity Sister, which gives us a different order of infinity, I believe.
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You are correct Pastor.
I shall leave the dividing of Zero to God© as only HE has the real power of infinity.
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HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-15-2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dustyjo
I'LL FREAKING DO IT
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Welcome now to dustyjo, hare-apparent dustbunny,
swept up by Sister Sweet Talitha:
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and good housekeeper for The Lord.
Praise Him for her!
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-15-2007, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dustyjo
I'LL FREAKING DO IT
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That only works with numbers, not forums. Even if it could work with forums JESUS protects this site from hackers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Talitha
1/0 is said to be undefined because division is defined in terms of multiplication. a/b = x is defined to mean that b*x = a. There is no x such that 0*x = 1, since 0*x = 0 for all x. Thus 1/0 does not exist, or is not defined, or is undefined.
You wish to introduce a new element (or maybe two elements), infinity, which you wish to append to the real number system. That is not prohibited. After all, that is how we got from natural numbers to integers (appending negative integers and zero), and from integers to rationals (appending ratios of integers), and from rationals to reals (appending limits of convergent sequences), and from reals to complexes (appending the square root of -1). What you end up with is not the real number system, however. Furthermore, if you wish to define the four operations + - * and / for this new system, you probably want them to be the same on real numbers, and just add on the definitions of things like infinity + r and r/infinity, for any real number r.
Some of these work fine. It makes sense to define:
infinity + r = r + infinity = infinity
(-infinity) + r = r + (-infinity) = -infinity
infinity + infinity = infinity
(-infinity) + (-infinity) = -infinity
infinity - r = infinity
(-infinity) - r = -infinity
r - infinity = -infinity
r - (-infinity) = infinity
infinity - (-infinity) = infinity
(-infinity) - infinity = -infinity
infinity * r = r * infinity = infinity for r > 0
(-infinity) * r = r * (-infinity) = -infinity for r > 0
infinity * r = r * infinity = -infinity for r < 0
(-infinity) * r = r * (-infinity) = infinity for r < 0
infinity * infinity = (-infinity) * (-infinity) = infinity
infinity * (-infinity) = (-infinity) * infinity = -infinity
infinity / r = infinity for r > 0
(-infinity) / r = -infinity for r > 0
infinity / r = -infinity for r < 0
(-infinity) / r = infinity for r < 0
r / infinity = 0
r / (-infinity) = 0
Where we get into trouble is with defining the following:
infinity + (-infinity)
(-infinity) + infinity
infinity - infinity
(-infinity) - (-infinity)
0 * infinity
infinity * 0
0 * (-infinity)
(-infinity) * 0
infinity / infinity
infinity / (-infinity)
(-infinity) / infinity
(-infinity) / (-infinity)
infinity / 0 = infinity
(-infinity) / 0 = -infinity
These expressions are called "indeterminate forms." These can all have a large range of different values, depending on exactly where the "infinity" parts came from.
As a result, the system you construct is not closed under addition, subtraction, multiplication, or division.
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Are you trying to give me a headache, Sister? Math and I are not friend in the least.
What's a lady lime you doing worrying about this advanced math? This kind of math won't help you in the kitchen cooking and baking.
The Big-Bang: GOD spoke and, BANG, the universe was formed.
Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-15-2007, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesus is Lord
That only works with numbers, not forums. Even if it could work with forums JESUS protects this site from hackers.
Are you trying to give me a headache, Sister? Math and I are not friend in the least.
What's a lady lime you doing worrying about this advanced math? This kind of math won't help you in the kitchen cooking and baking.
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A girl needs a hobby JIL.
Jesus blessed me by killing my husband but then compensating me with a vast fortune which I share with my Church through Triple Platinum Tithing and making vast Loving Donations to Jesus as a "Thank You Lord".
The cooking and baking is consequently done by my Housekeepers so as I can do my duties as Moderator on god's favourite Forum.
I shall Pray that your headache gets better, but if you refer to me as a lime again I shall ask my Security team Jesus to kill you. make your headache worse!!
Exodus 22 21-23
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child.
If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto me, I will surely hear their cry;
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Sister Talitha
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HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-15-2007, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesus is Lord
Are you trying to give me a headache, Sister? Math and I are not friend in the least.
What's a lady lime you doing worrying about this advanced math? This kind of math won't help you in the kitchen cooking and baking.
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Apparently spelling and grammar and you are not friend either, too.
Don't worry Brother JIL. Sister T was born with a rather embarrassing birth defect; she could perform advanced theoretical quantum physics by the age of 5. Her True Christian parents did their best to hide her freakishness from the public, as any good parents would. It still bubbles to the surface now and again, but so long as she Tithes appropriately to Jesus and sends her excellent baked goods around to all us Pastors each week, we overlook her eccentricities out of our Christlike compassion. Praise Jesus to the infinite power, plus one.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-16-2007, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sister Talitha
A girl needs a hobby JIL.
Jesus blessed me by killing my husband but then compensating me with a vast fortune which I share with my Church through Triple Platinum Tithing and making vast Loving Donations to Jesus as a "Thank You Lord".
The cooking and baking is consequently done by my Housekeepers so as I can do my duties as Moderator on god's favourite Forum.
I shall Pray that your headache gets better, but if you refer to me as a lime again I shall ask my Security team Jesus to kill you. make your headache worse!!
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I meant "like". I apologize, Sister.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel
Apparently spelling and grammar and you are not friend either, too.
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The headache did it. I meant "are not friend s" and "like".
Normally my grammar and spelling are very, very good.
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-16-2007, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel
but so long as she Tithes appropriately to Jesus and sends her excellent baked goods around to all us Pastors each week,
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I'm especially fond of the rolls and hot sticky buns. But, I know how some of the other pastors are fond of the cream filled long johns.
And, I'm (of course) reminded of a bible verse.
Numbers 15:20 Ye shall offer up a cake of the first of your dough for an heave offering: as ye do the heave offering of the threshingfloor, so shall ye heave it.
See how glorious it is to serve the Lord by providing his Pastors with baked goods?
Praise Jesus!
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-16-2007, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Enobarbus
There is also infinity raised to the power of infinity Sister, which gives us a different order of infinity, I believe.
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you just copy posta'd that your actually stupid
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-16-2007, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by THY_FLESH_CONSUMED
you just copy posta'd that your actually stupid
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Can't even spell it right when you post an image with the text in it.
Sad.
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-16-2007, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dustyjo
I'LL FREAKING DO IT
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LMAO! Dude... thanks. I needed a giggle. *Skulks back to her corner*
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-16-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesus is Lord
What's a lady lime you doing worrying about this advanced math? This kind of math won't help you in the kitchen cooking and baking.
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I pondered this question, along with your corrections on the next page.
Godly women do need to follow recipies, but those recipies are usually for a lower number of people than is needed. So the advanced mathematics comes into play. If a recipe says it serves 5 people, what is a poor Christian lady to do if she needs to bake for 100 people, and there is no TRUE CHRISTIAN man around to help with those calculations?
Sister Talitha has shown herself to be a good Christian woman. I have read many of her posts, and believe the pastors here have it well in hand.
"If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
(Leviticus 21:6-7)
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Re: I will devide this forum by zero. -
01-16-2007, 09:26 PM
I love mathematics.
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