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PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-15-2011, 07:37 AM
Over and over again, we hear from the God Mockers that the Ark could not have existed because it was impossible (according to their scientists) for ancient people to build ships that big that floated.
How biased and hypocritical they are when they turn around and applaud the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans for nothing more than building Giant ships!
So let's take a look at What Genesis 6:14-16 says about Noah's ark.
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14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
15And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits. 16A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.
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So 300 cubits, by 50 cubits, by 30 cubits. Absolutely impossible, even with the help of God, such a thing could not float. Or at least that's what we're being told.
But hold on, then they go on about the wonderous knowledge of the ancients in their next breath!
WARNING SICKULAR REFERENCES AHEAD!
Please ignore dates, as we all know that a sickular scientist would probably say he's billions of years old.
Lets start in Ancient Egypt.
The most famous is the Kufu Ship, coming in at aproximately 140' X 20'.
According to sickular scientists this boat was used in the water and floated just fine and was build around 2500 BC. So a little later than the flood.
Was that the biggest? Not by a long shot. Although the ships no longer exist, the sickular scientists seem to have no problem believing that the Egyptians used giant barges to move Obilisks up and down the Nile.
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I inspected the erection of two obelisks ////// built the august boat of 120 cubits in its length, 40 cubits in its width, in order to transport these obelisks. (They) came in peace, safety and prosperity, and landed at Karnak ////// of the city.
Biography of Ineni
J.H.Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt, Part Two, §105
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Note that he's describing the size of the Obelisks, so in order to transport two Obelisks the ship would have to be twice as big. Also these obelisks weighed hundreds of tons, so weight obviously wasn't an issue for the ancients. So if the Egyptians were capable of building a 240 cubit X 80 cubit ship, why is it so impossible for Moses to build a 300 cubit X 50 cubit ship with God's help?
But it's not just the Egyptians who were building giant ships. The Romans were at it as well.
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This ship was used to transport the obelisk in St. Peter’s Square from Egypt on the orders of Roman emperor Caligula. Caligula’s Giant Ship was 104 meter (312 feet) long and a beam of 20.3 meters (61 feet) that could also carry 800 crew members. The ship was also called the round ship.
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But the man had a passion for pleasure boats. But he also created two floating palaces that were 230 feet long.
The Greeks also had what were called the http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Ships/Ships.htm] [/I]Homeric ship I don't want to go further into that, I'm just discussing ship sizes here. Which were known to be approximately 100 feet long and 20 feet wide with 118 oarsmen. The Greeks claimed they could build one of these ships in 3 months.
So I throw the gauntlet down to the unbelievers and ask, which is it. Were the ancient people capable of building giant ships, thereby proving the existance of the ark? Or are you going to tell us that all of your sickular scientists are wrong just so you can go on with your sinful lifestyles. My personal belief is that you will carry on with your doublethought whereas you can say out of one side of your mouth that the ark is impossible and out of the other side praise the Egyptians, Romans, and Greeks for such amazing ships.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-15-2011, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Seth Campbell
Over and over again, we hear from the God Mockers that the Ark could not have existed because it was impossible (according to their scientists) for ancient people to build ships that big that floated.
How biased and hypocritical they are when they turn around and applaud the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans for nothing more than building Giant ships!
So let's take a look at What Genesis 6:14-16 says about Noah's ark.
So 300 cubits, by 50 cubits, by 30 cubits. Absolutely impossible, even with the help of God, such a thing could not float. Or at least that's what we're being told.
But hold on, then they go on about the wonderous knowledge of the ancients in their next breath!
WARNING SICKULAR REFERENCES AHEAD!
Please ignore dates, as we all know that a sickular scientist would probably say he's billions of years old.
Lets start in Ancient Egypt.
The most famous is the Kufu Ship, coming in at aproximately 140' X 20'.
According to sickular scientists this boat was used in the water and floated just fine and was build around 2500 BC. So a little later than the flood.
Was that the biggest? Not by a long shot. Although the ships no longer exist, the sickular scientists seem to have no problem believing that the Egyptians used giant barges to move Obilisks up and down the Nile.
Note that he's describing the size of the Obelisks, so in order to transport two Obelisks the ship would have to be twice as big. Also these obelisks weighed hundreds of tons, so weight obviously wasn't an issue for the ancients. So if the Egyptians were capable of building a 240 cubit X 80 cubit ship, why is it so impossible for Moses to build a 300 cubit X 50 cubit ship with God's help?
But it's not just the Egyptians who were building giant ships. The Romans were at it as well.
But the man had a passion for pleasure boats. But he also created two floating palaces that were 230 feet long.
The Greeks also had what were called the http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Ships/Ships.htm] [/I]Homeric ship I don't want to go further into that, I'm just discussing ship sizes here. Which were known to be approximately 100 feet long and 20 feet wide with 118 oarsmen. The Greeks claimed they could build one of these ships in 3 months.
So I throw the gauntlet down to the unbelievers and ask, which is it. Were the ancient people capable of building giant ships, thereby proving the existance of the ark? Or are you going to tell us that all of your sickular scientists are wrong just so you can go on with your sinful lifestyles. My personal belief is that you will carry on with your doublethought whereas you can say out of one side of your mouth that the ark is impossible and out of the other side praise the Egyptians, Romans, and Greeks for such amazing ships.
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Wonderful research brother. That will give the skeptics something to think about.
A question that I would like to ask atheists is if there was no ark then how did all those animals survive the flood?
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-15-2011, 08:25 AM
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Wonderful research brother. That will give the skeptics something to think about.
A question that I would like to ask atheists is if there was no ark then how did all those animals survive the flood?
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Precisely Brother! Perhaps you can do a page on proof of the flood. After all, every culture has some bastardization of the story. Even the Injuns had a story about some guy taking all of the animals in a giant canoe. If the flood didn't happen, why would these stories exist?
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-15-2011, 08:42 AM
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Precisely Brother! Perhaps you can do a page on proof of the flood. After all, every culture has some bastardization of the story. Even the Injuns had a story about some guy taking all of the animals in a giant canoe. If the flood didn't happen, why would these stories exist?
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Exactly. For evidence of the flood you just have to look at the Grand Canyon. A HUGE amount of water must have caused this. The little stream at the bottom could never have caused that much erosion in just 6000 years.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-15-2011, 11:49 PM
Typical of the atheists, just ignore anything that is slightly uncomfortable.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-16-2011, 05:01 AM
Not only does the Ark exist, but I've been to see it.
I'm not allowed to say where it's kept.
I even have a piece of it. Only a lucky few nubile young True Christian™ men have seen that.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-16-2011, 05:35 AM
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Not only does the Ark exist, but I've been to see it.
I'm not allowed to say where it's kept.
I even have a piece of it. Only a lucky few nubile young True Christian™ men have seen that.
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I envy the men who've been permitted to touch your piece of wood, Pastor Ezekiel!
While I understand it's not much more than a sliver, its incredible age and connection to Christian history is reportedly awe-inspiring.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-16-2011, 05:36 AM
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I envy the men who've been permitted to touch your piece of wood, Pastor Ezekiel!
While I understand it's not much more than a sliver, its incredible age and connection to Christian history is reportedly awe-inspiring.
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Oh it's bigger than you think. And it's still hard as a rock too.
That gopher wood is like that you know. If you have a big piece like I do.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-16-2011, 05:38 AM
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Oh it's bigger than you think. And it's still hard as a rock too.
That gopher wood is like that you know. If you have a big piece like I do.
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Yes, I hear it's so old, it's petrified!
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-16-2011, 06:18 PM
Of course it's possible to build a ship 300 cubit long and 50 cubit long.
But problem is that a ship that large isn't capable of carrying 2 animals of EVERY species. After all there are 62305 counted species of vertebrates.
Of course Noah's arc might have excisted, but unless you give us it's location, it's excistance remains only a speculation.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-16-2011, 06:57 PM
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Of course it's possible to build a ship 300 cubit long and 50 cubit long.
But problem is that a ship that large isn't capable of carrying 2 animals of EVERY species. After all there are 62305 counted species of vertebrates.
Of course Noah's arc might have excisted, but unless you give us it's location, it's excistance remains only a speculation.
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Please show us where the Bible says anything about "species".
It says "kinds".
As in, "big cat", not "lion, tiger, bobcat, panther, Puma? Puma!, Siamese, etc."
As everyone knows, all the "differentiation" occurred after the animals left the Ark.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-16-2011, 08:27 PM
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Of course it's possible to build a ship 300 cubit long and 50 cubit long.
But problem is that a ship that large isn't capable of carrying 2 animals of EVERY species. After all there are 62305 counted species of vertebrates.
Of course Noah's arc might have excisted, but unless you give us it's location, it's excistance remains only a speculation.
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You're under selling the scope of the miracle. Clean animals went in in sevens.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-17-2011, 03:40 AM
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Of course it's possible to build a ship 300 cubit long and 50 cubit long.
But problem is that a ship that large isn't capable of carrying 2 animals of EVERY species. After all there are 62305 counted species of vertebrates.
Of course Noah's arc might have excisted, but unless you give us it's location, it's excistance remains only a speculation.
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Dear Foreign Godmocker;
The Holy Bible tells us that Noah built an ark. Therefore it is NOT speculation. It is a Biblical FACT!
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-17-2011, 03:46 AM
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Please show us where the Bible says anything about "species".
It says "kinds".
As in, "big cat", not "lion, tiger, bobcat, panther, Puma? Puma!, Siamese, etc."
As everyone knows, all the "differentiation" occurred after the animals left the Ark.
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After God made them? How could that happen? And don't say evolution, or I may vomit.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-17-2011, 07:07 AM
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After God made them? How could that happen? And don't say evolution, or I may vomit.
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No not evolution. The 'theory' of evolution relies on natural selection which just doesn't happen. Even if you believe in evolution it could not have happened in the few thousand years since the flood.
If we look at breeds of dogs we can see the that man has changed a wolf into hundreds of breeds of dogs, all different shapes and sizes. Intelligence and design is needed for the process to work. Notice that man has not bred a dog into a cat? This is because animals stay within their kind.
'Kinds' of animals went on the ark and then God using intelligent design and selective breeding gave us the wonderful selection of creatures we have today.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
11-17-2011, 09:31 PM
I just hope that I get to see the Arc one day. I know it is out there and if you say you know where it is, I would hope you would share with a fellow Christian like myself. I want to see the piece of the Arc.
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Not only does the Ark exist, but I've been to see it.
I'm not allowed to say where it's kept.
I even have a piece of it. Only a lucky few nubile young True Christian™ men have seen that.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-10-2012, 10:03 PM
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I just hope that I get to see the Arc one day. I know it is out there and if you say you know where it is, I would hope you would share with a fellow Christian like myself. I want to see the piece of the Arc.
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Doubtful considering you don't know the difference between an arc and an Ark.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-10-2012, 10:06 PM
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Of course it's possible to build a ship 300 cubit long and 50 cubit long.
But problem is that a ship that large isn't capable of carrying 2 animals of EVERY species. After all there are 62305 counted species of vertebrates.
Of course Noah's arc might have excisted, but unless you give us it's location, it's excistance remains only a speculation.
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Again with the Atheist shift. Amazing dance that is.
How many times have we all heard atheists claim that "it would have been impossible to build a boat that big"?
I get 5 million results from Google.
Now it's possible, but you couldn't get all of the animals on it....
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-27-2012, 03:30 AM
The animals were all part of the food chain, why did they not eat each other?
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The animals were all part of the food chain, why did they not eat each other?
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