[Mrs. Rogers]

Originally Posted by livia_warumono

How do people like you, get off telling people that your religion is based on love, when all you spread is hatred?

When did we ever say our religion is love-based? We base our true Christianity on the Bible -- other so-called Christians do not. They claim to be Christians, but do not understand what it is to be a Christian; if they cracked open a KJV 1611 every once in a while, they might actually discover the nature of the God they claim to love.

[Bonghead]

Originally Posted by ColickyVampire

Hello, Christians. I am Robert, and I am a Gothic.
Many of you Christians think that I'm an idiot because I'm calling myself a Gothic when you think that Gothic is an adjective. Well, it is, but it is also a term to describe someone who wears black, who has interests in things that you people think are Goth interests, and listens to music other than Goth music.

Goth and Gothic are completely different. To clear this up before I start the main conversation here, I will give you a brief description of both subcultures.

Goth-Listens to Goth music (ex. Siouxsie and The Banshees, Advent Sleep, XIII Stoleti), sometimes dresses in srange clothes, but it isn't necessary.

Goth-Dresses in unusuall dark/depressing clothing, listens to whatever music they like, has interests in dark subjects.


So, this isn't about Goths. This is about Gothics.


I am here to defind my brothers and sisters. Don't you dare pick at my words and find the most inconspicuous faults in what I say. I am here to teach, not be critisized.

Another thing that you may be thinking right now is, "This is a Christian site, you maggot! Why do you hate Jesus so, and why are you even here, when you obviously worship satan!?"

I do not hate Jesus, I don't even believe in him, nor Satan. I am here to teach, and this is the best way to get my message across to many Christians.




Do you think that Gothics are evil? Of course, but why? The Columbine shootings? Why do you base the whole of us on two people? Another thing that I'm wondering is why do you think that the shooters are Goth/ics? Do these people look Goth/ic?



Or do you think that anyone who causes mischief is Goth/ic?

Hardly any Gothics are what you think that they are. Most people who want Christians to die are black metalheads. Black Metal is a form of Heavy Metal that is mostly composed of people who dress in corpsepaint (clearing up the idea that Gothics paint their faces like clowns), and Satanists.

Sure, maybe 5% of Gothics hate Christians, but definetely not all of them. There IS a such thing as a Christian Gothic. Being a Christian is loving God, not dressing properly or completely hating Gothics. While you may not consider people like that to even be true Christians, they are still Christians.


Do you think that we are going to hell just because we dress in black? What is so Satanic about dressing out of the ordinary?

Another thing I've been hearing on a forum post about Goths is that God hates Goths. They also say this about Asians, Africans (or African Americans), and anyone who isn't white. Now, I'm not completely sure what the verse says, but I was baptists for the first 12 years of my life, and I know that somewhere in the bible, it says that God created everyone equal, and that we all are equal to each other. The rich and the poor, the Blacks and the Whites, the Asians and the Americans. So why do you Christians hate people other than your own kind?


Now, ramble among yourselves and others. I'm interested in seeing what "God's so-called people" think about other human beings.

Whatever you wrote...definitely too much to comprehend for those piffletards,rednecks and pedophiles....

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by livia_warumono

HAHA.
1, satan is not real, just something your silly christians made up so your bloody religion would survive.

That is in clear contradiction to the Bible.

2, if satan were real, i imagine he would be alot like YOU.

Well we both want souls, I to save, him to destroy.

How do people like you, get off telling people that your religion is based on love, when all you spread is hatred?

We spread God's Word; how you see that is a matter for yourself, but I would advise accepting every single word of it.

I'm really sorry that theirs other types of people in the world.
hey, did you notice, you people are quite elite-ist? you actually remind me of hitler!

Hitler needs a capital 'H'. That aside, it is usual to ban people for comparing others to Nazis - it is a sign they have lost the argument.

and whats this about homosexuals?

They are abominations and stick things where God did not intend.

and men having long hair being so wrong?

1Cor:11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

so you forget that jesus had long hair too?

Ignorant little person! Have you any Scripture for that? Jesus had hair of just the right length - nice and tidy.

you people make me laugh. alot!

Satan will make you cry as you make Baby Jesus cry.

[Godfly]

Now fellow Christian's Bobby has a point. Gothics are NOT, simply bad, THEY ARE EVIL!

It's so sad that the only thing that keeps Bobby from redemption is a haircut, a change of clothes, a good scrubbing and a few hours in Bible Study.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Godfly

It's so sad that the only thing that keeps Bobby from redemption is a haircut, a change of clothes, a good scrubbing and a few hours in Bible Study.

Amen to that Brother!

[Noah Dint]

It never ceases to amaze me how most defensive posts start with, "I am a goth...."

The serpent in the tree told Eve to fear not as well...

-ND

[Gregor Koenig]

Dear brothers and sisters,

Gothics are terrible! I still have to cry, when I think about those rotten rats!

Just 2 days ago, when I was at home, drinking a cup of tea, those rats threw toilet paper in my garden! I was so angry, I ran out of the door and screamed "God won't forgive you, fags!".
So I looked into their faces. Everything was bleeding. A small girl of that group, just cut herself in her eye, when I looked at her. Event he toilet paper in my garden was full of bleed!
So I got my cane and striked those rats so hard, that they will remembger it for their life!

May God be with you!

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Gregor Koenig

So I got my cane and striked those rats so hard, that they will remembger it for their life!

I recently got myself some motion detecting sprinklers in my lawn. Very effective against unwanted visitors. http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=35601

[Alexis the Beautiful]

Well hello. When I first started reading this I was agreeing with you. Then there was a few things that changed my mind.
"I am here to teach not to be criticized."
You are telling people who cannot and will not understand or accept what you are saying. It is best not to try. Believe me I tried at first then just accepted what they were saying and moved on. It's a little tougher I must say to live, because I am cutting out (not litterally) a part of who I am, but it is a much more happy life due to less people bullying me.
Last thing everyone criticizes everyone. It's a fact of life. Plus you are coming to the place where your enemies lie. They will criticize you. Jesus is real. I pray you will see the light and change your beliefs. Trust the people here they aren't out to get you nor are you out to get them, right? If you just believe what they say they will accept and be kind to you I have learned from experience.

[FranklinAndPearl]

Originally Posted by Alexis the Beautiful

Well hello. When I first started reading this I was agreeing with you. Then there was a few things that changed my mind.
"I am here to teach not to be criticized."
You are telling people who cannot and will not understand or accept what you are saying. It is best not to try. Believe me I tried at first then just accepted what they were saying and moved on. It's a little tougher I must say to live, because I am cutting out (not litterally) a part of who I am, but it is a much more happy life due to less people bullying me.
Last thing everyone criticizes everyone. It's a fact of life. Plus you are coming to the place where your enemies lie. They will criticize you. Jesus is real. I pray you will see the light and change your beliefs. Trust the people here they aren't out to get you nor are you out to get them, right? If you just believe what they say they will accept and be kind to you I have learned from experience.

Alexis the Retard, did you really find it necessary to resurrect a 5 year old thread? Unlike JESUS, some things are not supposed to come back.

I am getting tired of your nonsense, young lady.

Regards, Franklin

[Witch Hammer]

Originally Posted by FranklinAndPearl

Alexis the Retard, did you really find it necessary to resurrect a 5 year old thread? Unlike JESUS, some things are not supposed to come back.

I am getting tired of your nonsense, young lady.

Regards, Franklin

I would love to see you bash this mouthy vixen over the head with your cane, Brother Franklin...

[Alexis the Beautiful]

Originally Posted by FranklinAndPearl

Alexis the Retard, did you really find it necessary to resurrect a 5 year old thread? Unlike JESUS, some things are not supposed to come back.

I am getting tired of your nonsense, young lady.

Regards, Franklin

I am sorry, sir. I did not mean to offend you. I saw a thread and was a bit offended so I commented. I did not relize that this thread was that old. Please forgive me.

[Witch Hammer]

Originally Posted by Alexis the Beautiful

I am sorry, sir. I did not mean to offend you. I saw a thread and was a bit offended so I commented. I did not relize that this thread was that old. Please forgive me.

Have you asked Jesus for forgiveness, shrew?

[Alexis the Beautiful]

Originally Posted by Witch Hammer

Have you asked Jesus for forgiveness, shrew?

Ok please stop. You and I obviously will never get along. No matter how hard I try. So officially I am done with everything you have said to me.

[MitzaLizalor]

Freak shows such as illustrated [RIGHT] are not simply matters of taste or fashion. They are intended to mock Christ.

Check out the earring worn by yon sleazy creep (in the first picture). It is an upside down cross.

Why would anyone want to invert a cross? And the answer is simple. It is a statement. It says I reject Christ and deny His Perfect Sacrifice and in such a way as to acknowledge the supremacy of His adversary. Satan.

Now of course many people reject Christ, anthropologists for example who describe The New Testament in terms of cultural relativism or something just as they would describe a witchdoctor. But they distance themselves from the cultures they describe. They do not become witchdoctors themselves.

The goth is not like that. The goth both advocates and solicits for satanism. I will not simply disregard Jesus, he says, I will do the exact opposite of what He commands. That is what the inverted cross signifies.

In the second picture there is another cross. It does not appear to be inverted. But there are other ways of inverting the message of Salvation.

Psalm 51 KJV
5-7 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom. Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

Revelation 1 KJV
12c-14 I saw seven golden candlesticks; And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
17b-18 He laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

The freak in picture 2 is also making a statement. Purge me with hyssop? he announces by the clothes he wears. Shapen in iniquity? Not vile enough for me! Down to the goth boutique he sidles looking for something the complete opposite of how God describes Salvation. Black. Rather than be purged through the redemptive power of Christ's Blood this wretch will even dye his hair black. Rejecting the message of The Cross he chooses to combine its symbolism with the absolute antithesis of what is described in Revelation. Aha, he thinks to himself, I'll wear this excessively ornate cross as a necklace over my black clothes girt about the paps with chains of slavery and "express my individuality" by dying my hair exactly the same colour as every other goth. In this way the goth embraces more sin, more iniquitousness than results from the mode of conception and aligns to the maximum extent with death.

Christ suffered to set us free. Christ offers us life. In Him we are more alive than could ever otherwise be possible. As seen in the 3rd and 4th pictures it is again the exact antithesis of this message we see expressed. Satan is their master and they will be tormented with him in HELL FOREVER.

The differences between goths and anthropologists are clear. Both will be tortured in perpetuity, as The Bibles teaches they deserve, but anthropologists don't as a rule solicit for their false deity and are content to observe weird cultural superstitions (as they see them) such as Witchdoctory or Christianity. They want to "study" them, learn about their origins within alien societies (all societies in their model are alien). Goths seek to tear down, to mock, to subvert. They dress as they do and act as they do for a reason. A full-time psychodrama having a single objective. Destruction.

Yes, I call that bad. Bad and mad and dangerous to know. There is no such thing as a Christian goth and no Christian can identify with their odious culture or circulate in their satanic society without themselves mocking Jesus.

No wonder they read Byron!

[CleanForChrist]

I've been told that the Vatican Cathlick with the biggest hat is also known to lord his ass into a chair with an inverted cross on it:



Fitting with the Cathlick tendency to blaspheme and "interpret" the Lord's Scripture as they see fit for their own nefarious purposes.

One thing I might add is that the Gothics maintain that their culture is about "self expression". If we sieve through their lying tongues, we understand that what they really want is to stand out in the crowd (Sister Mitza's photographs above further prove this point), which brings them in direct conflict with 1 Timothy 2:9. Who knew that Satan-fetishists could be so easily proven to be blasphemous trash?