[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

[...]
Nowhere does the Bible claim that it is the only Word of God. It is an unbiblical creation of Martin Luther.[...]

I am ashamed to be in the presence of such a liar and ignoramous.

Have you never heard of The Divine Right of Kings?

In order to demonstrate the antiquity of the Divine Right of Kings, we will examine the early 13th century writings of Bracton. These writings were well known to King James, his predecessors, and his contemporaries. Bracton's most famous work is, "De Legibus Et Consuetudinibus Angliæ" or, "On the Laws and Customs of England" . Though this work is attributed to Bracton it is believed that other persons also contributed to it. Legibus is an ambitious work which attempts to describe the whole of English law and is described by F.W. Maitland as "the crown and flower of English jurisprudence."

Concerning the God-given, exalted status of the king, it says this--

The king has no equal within his realm, nor a fortiori a superior,because he would then be subject to those subjected to him. The king must not be under man but under God and under the law, because law makes the king,for there is no rex (King) where will rules rather than lex (law). Since he is the vicar of God, there ought to be no one in his kingdom who surpasses him in the doing of justice, but he ought to be the last, or almost so, to receive it, when he is plaintiff. If it is asked of him, since no writ runs against him there will [only] be opportunity for a petition, that he correct and amend his act; if he does not, it is punishment enough for him that he await God's vengeance. No one may presume to question his acts, much less contravene them.

If through King James, the Bible were published [as it was] then it is The True Word of God!

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

No to ordaining female ministers. But their are clearly already homosexual priests. However, the ones that live in chastity are still recognized respectable priests.

Why no to female ministers ?

The pope is the ultimate authority, right?

You already are in disobedience to the Word with prayer to saints and Mary, calling priests father, infant baptism and etc. Now add Matthew 5:28-30 for ordaining homosexual priests, even if they aren't practicing homers.

Why wouldn't you follow your cult still if the pope says it's okay to ordain women? It's not Scripturally correct?

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Your solution solves nothing. You've mentioned before that there must be another source that says the Bible is the Word of God. But, I told you that there is no higher authority than the Bible so it doesn't need another source. Scripture must say it itself is the Word of God, because is there anything higher and more authoritative than the Word of God?

No. There is absolutely nothing more authoritative than the Word of God.

However, you act under the false, illogical, paradoxical, and unbilblical idea the Bible is the only Word of God. You have yet to offer any facts to support this man-fabricated idea.

Also, let's assume that there was another source that claimed the Bible is true. What is your criteria for such source? Landover Baptist Church says the Bible is true. But you disregard our testimony.

Your Church does not fit the requirements established in Scripture as Chirst's One Church.

YOU have no authority to declare the Bible as the Word of God, as you have no connection to the Apostles, who first orally proclaimed the Word. Your landover opinion is simply that, an opinion.

So, let's say we found some "Table of Contents" like you said. The problem is, this brings up another paradox. A person can ask "How do we know the Table of Contents is true?" Wouldn't this Table of Contents require an outside source to back it up? Even if such Table of Contents existed, wouldn't it undergo the same skeptical scrutiny that the Bible endures?

The table of contents exists in the form of the official canon established by the Catholic Church, which is equally authoritatively the Word of God. It is the Word of God because of the Apostolic Succession back to Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ of course spoke the Word as He fullfilled the prophesies and performed signs. This Word was passed on orally to the apostles, who in turn passed it on orally to their successors, who in turn, used this Oral Tradition to establish what books were to be considered canonical. Their authority to do so is merited directly from the apostles and in turn from Jesus Christ. It is only in this way that the paradox can be removed. For unless you had an equal authority to the written word, then you have nothing to determine what belongs in the written word.

By your logic, as the bible claims to be the word of God, so does the Paradox of Sola Scriptura and thus must be included within the Scriptures. Without an authority outside the Bible, you have no way to decide if the PSS (Paradox of Sola Scirptura) is indeed the Word of God.

So then, let's say we have an outside source that attests to this Table of Contents which attests to the reality of the Bible. Then this outside source can also be viewed with the same skepticism you gave the Bible and the Table of Contents.

Of course this would be true, except that the outside source bears its roots within the 12 apostles which in turn were sent by Jesus Christ, the living Word. Thus if a=b and b=c then a=c. If what Jesus taught was the Word, He taught that to His apostles, who taught it to their successors, then the successors of the apostles bear the same word that Jesus did.

Have you never heard of The Divine Right of Kings?If through King James, the Bible were published [as it was] then it is The True Word of God!

What about the Kings that went on the Crusades? They supported the Catholic Church with their lives.

You simply cannot follow this rule alone, or else you have contradictions at every turn.

Jesus is my King. Not King James.

Why no to female ministers ?

The pope is the ultimate authority, right?

Why wouldn't you follow your cult still if the pope says it's okay to ordain women? It's not Scripturally correct?

I can say confidently that the Papacy will never allow the ordination women. That is why I am able to answer "no".

***NOTE TO ALL LANDOVERS***

If the next landover that posts here cannot offer a biblical or logical support for Sola Scriptura you convict it yourself of it's lies. If there is a truth in it, speak it now. If not, then admit it, so we can move on.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

***NOTE TO ALL LANDOVERS***

If the next landover that posts here cannot offer a biblical or logical support for Sola Scriptura you convict it yourself of it's lies. If there is a truth in it, speak it now. If not, then admit it, so we can move on.

It has already been spoken, repeatedly.

So now that is version, early church history, sola scriptura, pedophilia, teachings that don't follow the word, papal infallibility, authority of rome and so much more to add to your ownage list.

You have really earned your medal, since you continue to come back here.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Sacred Heart, the church described in the Bible is NOT the Catholic church:

http://members.shaw.ca/alyzza/Phelps/memoonthechurch.pdf

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

[...] What about the Kings that went on the Crusades? They supported the Catholic Church with their lives.

Yes and they went off to kill muslims by the thousand, men women and children. It was a good time for Jesus then, people listened to Him.

You simply cannot follow this rule alone, or else you have contradictions at every turn.

Oh ye of little faith. The difficulties are in your weak female intellect.

Jesus is my King. Not King James.

So let me get this right; you are denying that the Word of God was given by God to King James, whom He appointed?

It is broadly accepted that this is the truth of the matter, as God had been angered by the way the church of Rome had traduced His Holy Word and would have forced upon the world the folk-tales contained in the Apocrypha.

If the next landover that posts here cannot offer a biblical or logical support for Sola Scriptura you convict it yourself of it's lies. If there is a truth in it, speak it now. If not, then admit it, so we can move on.

Landover Baptist Faith and Message statement
"The Holy Bible, KJV1611, was written by men divinely inspired and is God's revelation of Himself to man. It is a perfect treasure of divine instruction. It has God for its author, salvation for its end, and truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter. Therefore, all Scripture is totally true and trustworthy.”(i.e. anything but scripture is not trustworthy.)


Joh:1:1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(The Bible is God’s Word. All else is of Man.

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
(God spoke through The Prophets)

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
(Jesus authenticated the Bible - He did not authenticate the scribblings for political and economic benefit of the minions of the Mother of Whoredoms)

[Lola Handcock]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Papist cant love em cant shoot em?

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

It has already been spoken, repeatedly.

So now that is version, early church history, sola scriptura, pedophilia, teachings that don't follow the word, papal infallibility, authority of rome and so much more to add to your ownage list.

You have really earned your medal, since you continue to come back here.

You continue to whine about how you have already refuted my points when in fact they stand untouched by your hand. And all you bring to the table you childish rants about how you already "won".

If my points have already been refuted then why not simply post the comments that have left them so? As I have already dealt with every word from your tongue. I bid you hold it, and let the more knowledgeable take up your fight.

Sacred Heart, the church described in the Bible is NOT the Catholic church:

http://members.shaw.ca/alyzza/Phelps...nthechurch.pdf

Sadly this site offers no Biblical requirements for the Church, which is what I have presented and yet remain undisputed.

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Oh ye of little faith. The difficulties are in your weak female intellect.[/QUOTE]
It would seem your "masculine" intellect is at a loss for the logic behind any such paradoxical reasoning in Sola Scriptura, along with that of all your brothers.

So let me get this right; you are denying that the Word of God was given by God to King James, whom He appointed?

The Divine Right of Kings is but another idea conceived around the time of the reformation. It was not thought of until the 16th century. Are you going to stand there and tell me that your entire religion, "originating" at John the Baptist, was yet built upon such ideas as Sola Scriptura and the Divine Right of Kings which were not conceived until 1500 years after his death? Can be any more brainless?

Furthermore, I would like to introduce you a King that would have some words to disagree with you: King St. Louis IX

And you ought especially to be resolved not to commit mortal sin, no matter what may happen and should permit all your limbs to be hewn off, and suffer every manner of torment, rather than fall knowingly into mortal sin.
I advise you that you accustom yourself to frequent confession, and that you choose always, as your confessors, men who are upright and sufficiently learned, and who can teach you what you should do and what you should avoid. You should so carry yourself that your confessors and other friends may dare confidently to reprove you and show you your faults.

Dear son, I advise you that you listen willingly and devoutly the services of Holy Church, and, when you are in church, avoid to frivolity and trifling, and do not look here and there; but pray to God with lips and heart alike, while entertaining sweet thoughts about Him, and especially at the mass, when the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ are consecrated, and for a little time before.

Dear son, I advise you always to be devoted to the Church of Rome, and to the sovereign pontiff, our father, and to bear him the the reverence and honor which you owe to your spiritual father.

Source: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/stlouis1.html

Now tell me, how do I know to which King I own my allegiance?

Joh:1:1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

In the beginning, there was naught but the Word. And the Word was spoken. Oral Tradition.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(The Bible is God’s Word. All else is of Man.

This verse shows what Scripture is profitable for. It in fact only refers to the OT which Timothy "from infancy has known".

In no way does this verse exclude the possibility of another form of God's Word (Sacred Tradition)

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

(God spoke through The Prophets)

No arguing with you here.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

He sure did. That's why we have the OT!!

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

He sure did.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
(Jesus authenticated the Bible - He did not authenticate the scribblings for political and economic benefit of the minions of the Mother of Whoredoms)

This is merely Jesus authenticating Himself through the Scriptures. And the OT at that.

Not one of these verses leads to a biblical claim of Sola Scriptura as you would like them to say.

And even should they have said so, you have yet to refute the PSS (Paradox of Sola Scriptura) or establish how you know what books are to be inspired scripture.

And factually you cannot, you need the Sacred Tradition of the Church.

It is time to come home

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

[...]The Divine Right of Kings is but another idea conceived around the time of the reformation. It was not thought of until the 16th century.

Or as we say, “In good time for the publication of KJV1611."

Furthermore, I would like to introduce you a King that would have some words to disagree with you: King St. Louis IX

French and a Catlik, anything he said was lies. Just a snippet from his history,

Thus, in order to fulfill his duty, he conducted two crusades, and even though they were unsuccessful,

He clearly did not have God on his side otherwise he would have won! God doesn’t lose wars.

Now tell me, how do I know to which King I own my allegiance?

The King of Kings I hope! If He is the King of Kings then all the other Kings must be there at His bidding and whim! They are by God Appointed.

In the beginning, there was naught but the Word. And the Word was spoken. Oral Tradition.

and then it was written down in The Bible KJV1611.

2nd Timothy 3:16

This verse shows what Scripture is profitable for. It in fact only refers to the OT which Timothy "from infancy has known".

In no way does this verse exclude the possibility of another form of God's Word (Sacred Tradition)

…and it was all written down

2 Peter 1:21

…and it was all written down

No arguing with you here.

…and it was all written down

Habakkuk 2:2 He sure did. That's why we have the OT!!

…and it was all written down

Jeremiah 36:2 He sure did.

…and it was all written down

John 5:39 This is merely Jesus authenticating Himself through the Scriptures. And the OT at that.

…and it was all written down.

Not one of these verses leads to a biblical claim of Sola Scriptura as you would like them to say.

Hello, they were all written down. They were written so no man could make them up. They were written down so that the anti-christ on the 7 hills would not be able to alter them or add or subtract. But you know what? He did.

Your soul has the claws of the beast of Revelations deep inside it. God from Genesis onwards warns man that women are fickle, light-headed, easily lead, and to be subjected to man’s wisdom. His wisdom is Great and Final.

But… but… you disagree… and in disagreeing you make God’s point for Him.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Sadly this site offers no Biblical requirements for the Church, which is what I have presented and yet remain undisputed.

Egads, you are retarded You really earned that award of yours.

You want Biblical requirements of the Church?

New Testament Church Scorecard

Chew on this, silly Pagan,

Revelation 22: 18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Or as we say, “In good time for the publication of KJV1611."

Matt 1:23 - " '...Emmanuel,' which means 'God is with us.' "
Matt 28:19-20 - "Go therefore... And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age."

As Jesus sent forth His apostles He told them He was with them always. Note He did not imply that they would got through a period of 1500 years before His Word would be full again.

French and a Catlik, anything he said was lies.

A king and made so by God. By your standards, his word is divine mandate.

Just a snippet from his history,

He clearly did not have God on his side otherwise he would have won! God doesn’t lose wars.

Then you suggest God sided with the muslims?

The King of Kings I hope! If He is the King of Kings then all the other Kings must be there at His bidding and whim! They are by God Appointed.

If they are all God appointed as you say and bear authority to them given by God, then how is it that they contradict and constantly war with one another?

Hello, they were all written down. They were written so no man could make them up. They were written down so that the anti-christ on the 7 hills would not be able to alter them or add or subtract. But you know what? He did.

The Bible makes no claim that it was all written down. Im sorry...

Now landovers. You have yet to refute the PSS (Paradox of Sola Scriptura) or establish how you know what books are to be inspired scripture.

And factually you cannot, you need the Sacred Tradition of the Church.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

SH, are you kidding me? I just read this thread. You dispute the validity of the Bible but quote and stand behind it when it suits you. Then when another does the same, you refute their comments. You claim to be a devout catlick and at the same time, do not believe in the word of God, the Bible!

You are like a a emo cutter, disgusted by a world you do not understand, who refuses to attempt to comprehend and instead, mutilates Gods beautiful creations to get people to coddle him.

All your postings are in a similar vein. Have you ever had professional help? If not, you really need to consider it.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Matt 1:23 - " '...Emmanuel,' which means 'God is with us.' "
Matt 28:19-20 - "Go therefore... And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age."

As Jesus sent forth His apostles He told them He was with them always. Note He did not imply that they would got through a period of 1500 years before His Word would be full again.

You've lost the plot! Jesus was always there, quietly waiting until His True Word would again be revealed, as it was with KJV1611.

A king and made so by God. By your standards, his word is divine mandate.

You have heard that "faith can move mountains."? And yet some people, who claim faith, do not have their prayers answered. Why is that? Because their faith is insufficient. Louis IX clearly lacked faith and, although appointed by God, let God down badly. Louis' armies were thus defeated (See also J'g:1:19 - chariots of iron and a lack of faith of the commander.)

Then you suggest God sided with the muslims?

No, defeat by anyone at all is a punishment from God. The muslims were not rewarded - look at their lands; vile and backward.

If they are all God appointed as you say and bear authority to them given by God, then how is it that they contradict and constantly war with one another?

(a)Why were there Papal Wars? (b)Once appointed as King by God, you never lose the earthly position but you may lose Grace.

The Bible makes no claim that it was all written down. Im sorry...

Could you rephrase this please? The Bible comprises words - that is what the Bible is. If it is in the Bible, it is words and thus, it was written down... I fail to see how you can deny this. (Except you're a woman and a servant of the anti-Christ the vicar of Rome.)

Now Landovers. You have yet to refute the PSS (Paradox of Sola Scriptura) or establish how you know what books are to be inspired scripture.

In view of my and other answers here, your claim for victory is as hollow as your claim to Christianity.

And factually you cannot, you need the Sacred Tradition of the Church.

You say we "need them" but fail to say how the ramblings of some deluded man from the dark ages can pass beyond the written words of Christ. Please do so.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

You've lost the plot! Jesus was always there, quietly waiting until His True Word would again be revealed, as it was with KJV1611.

So you claim He was always there, but chose to forsake 1500 years of His children by withholding His Word from them?

His Word was written down in Greek a long long time before your KJV polluted it. In fact your KJV was an attempt to write these Greek manuscripts into English. Therefore you recognize that the KJV is itself not the only Word, for it was based off manuscripts written within a few hundred years after Christ. Thus, His Word was present then and was not simply waiting for 1500 years.

Game Over Mr. Bathfire.

Could you rephrase this please? The Bible comprises words - that is what the Bible is. If it is in the Bible, it is words and thus, it was written down... I fail to see how you can deny this. (Except you're a woman and a servant of the anti-Christ the vicar of Rome.)

Your critical Word choice is "All". You claim that it was "All" written down. I asked if Scripture could validate this. Of course I already know that it cannot... But you are welcome to try.

You say we "need them" but fail to say how the ramblings of some deluded man from the dark ages can pass beyond the written words of Christ. Please do so.

I would like to post a simply rough draft of a paper I was working on while I was away. I feel it answers your question.

***

This is the Word of God

Mankind has profoundly managed to attribute unnaturally high values to seemingly worthless materials. For instance, a simple, green, paper rectangle can be worth anywhere from one dollar to one hundred dollars depending upon how many zeros it bears. Ironically, the paper only bears those zeros because man himself printed them there. However, this idea of “perspective value” is not limited to simple currency. Man desires numerous other prizes and rewards such as beauty or “precious” stones, all of which have only been so elevated because man himself raised them to that position. Such objects and ideas are often accepted without much question as to their actual value to man and all too often, when faced with the question of why these ideas command respect, individuals are at a loss. A prime example man’s unquestioning reverence is a book resting upon a higher pedestal than most other objects of value, the Holy Bible. Is the Bible like a dollar bill in that its only value is in what man has attributed to it? Or is it deserving of its veneration?

What is the Bible? In the simplest sense, it is ground up tress and ink bound together into the number one best-seller across the globe. A vast majority believe it to be the true Word of God, written through man by God’s divine inspiration. But the fact remains, the Holy Bible is strikingly similar to any other historical text or even work of fiction; they are all of the same substance and they teach an idea, whether historical or moral. However, there is but one distinct difference: The Holy Bible is the proclaimed Word of God, and in the eyes of many billions of believers, this elevates its status beyond all other written text.

What right does the Holy Bible have to claim divinity? It is but a book, yet many millions of the faithful gamble their everlasting life upon its truth with no outside influences whatsoever. This is the idea of Sola Scriptura; that every doctrine necessary for eternal salvation is found within Scripture and no supplementary work is necessary. Immediately however, a paradox is exposed. Following the logic of Sola Scriptura, Christians are forced to accept that the Bible is the Word of God only because the Bible itself makes that claim. Thus, in an unending circle, Bible-only Christians must assert that they follow the Bible because the Bible commands it. Consequently, they must believe the Bible’s claim to divinity simply because that is what the Bible has instructed them to believe. This paradoxical notion put into effect by Martin Luther some 1500 years after Christ gives a very shaky stance to an idea that could certainly use another leg to stand on. Surely there is more evidence to support the idea of Scripture’s divine inspiration? Yes, but not within the Bible.

Immediately however, another problem is encountered. Any outside authority to so declare that Scripture is indeed divinely inspired must of course be of equal or even greater authority than the Scripture itself, meaning that any outside reference must also be the Word of God. Any lesser authority than the Word of God would be worthless; no one but God himself could claim Scripture to be divine. For instance, if a man on the street pointed at a telephone pole and claimed it was Jesus Christ, the lesser authority of the common man would in no way convince the next passer-by of the pole’s divinity. However, to have any divine authority outside of Scripture is commonly seen as blasphemous.

Often it is asserted that “in your observance of the commandments of the Lord, your God, which I enjoin upon you, you shall not add to what I command you nor subtract from it” (Deuteronomy 4:2). However, in searching Scripture, there is no clear definition of exactly what these “commandments” are; there is no divinely inspired table of contents. Indeed, there is no way to determine using Scripture alone exactly what is included within confines of Scripture. All that can be determined through Sola Scriptura is that the Bible claims to be the Word of God, and therefore it must be so. However, this essay is of the same substance as the Bible, ground up trees and ink, and makes the same claim, “This is the Word of God”. How then, can writings such as this essay be infallibly excluded from the canon of Scripture unless there is an “inspired” table of contents? Factually, they cannot. Again the idea is forced that there must be an outside authority equal to that of Scripture in order for it to be the Word of God and, indeed, to define of exactly what that Word consists.

The widely accepted table of contents for the Holy Bible was officially declared at the Council of Rome in the early fourth century by the Roman Catholic Church. In order to define what is to be included in Sacred Scripture, an equally Sacred authority is thereby required. In such an assertion, Christians are forced to accept that this extra-biblical canon established by the Catholic Church is also the true Word of God. However, yet another problem now arises: What gives the Catholic Church the authority to make such a statement? How can mere men determine what is and is not the word of their God? The answer is found in Apostolic Succession.

For any Christian, it is understood that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and therefore, His word would be the Word of God. The Word of Christ was passed on to His twelve Apostles and therefore their teachings were the teachings of Christ himself. The successors of the Apostles would also preach the same word as the Apostles themselves, and thereby preach the same word as Christ. To be Christian is to have faith that God would keep His teachings safe from corruption through the generations and would reach the ears of the faithful many centuries later in the same form that it was heard in the time of Christ. Therefore, any Christian must accept that the Oral Teachings of Christ, passed down to the Apostles which was then successively given from them to their own disciples and from there to the next generation and etc., is also the Word of God, though it may not be found in Scripture. If the successors of the twelve Apostles do indeed speak with the Word of God, then they consequently bear a divine authority separate from Scripture in order to define the Bible itself as being divine. It is because of this separate authority alone that Holy Scripture is defined and established as the Sacred Word of God.

Oral Tradition and Sacred Scripture are like two legs supporting the same body; they do not contradict each other. However, they are not completely identical either; each leg bears a few freckles that vary from the other, but both are necessary for the Church to stand; one cannot exist without the other. They work together to establish the Church.

Much like a dollar bill is rather worthless without a piece of gold in the Federal Reserve to back it up, the Holy Bible becomes much like any other book without the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church to support it. It is only in asserting the authority of this Sacred Tradition that Sacred Scripture is even in existence. Without the Apostolic Succession held by the Catholic Church, the Bible becomes nothing more than a paradoxical claim of divinity, and is in no way deserving of the reverence it is given.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

So you claim He was always there, but chose to forsake 1500 years of His children by withholding His Word from them?

His Word, as you put it, is The Bible, Old and New Testaments. Is it not for the Master to decide the where and when and for the servant to accept this?

His Word was written down in Greek a long long time before your KJV polluted it. In fact your KJV was an attempt to write these Greek manuscripts into English. Therefore you recognize that the KJV is itself not the only Word, for it was based off manuscripts written within a few hundred years after Christ. Thus, His Word was present then and was not simply waiting for 1500 years.

Elsewhere, I have explained that His Word was corrupted by false prophets, lazy scribes, indolent monks and the vile self-interest of the Catlix and their satanic minions. KJV1611 cures all error.

John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”
2nd Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began ,

Game Over Mr. Bathfire.

The game is still afoot. The Pits of Hell await you Ms Sacred Heart…

Your critical Word choice is "All". You claim that it was "All" written down. I asked if Scripture could validate this. Of course I already know that it cannot... But you are welcome to try.

You need some intelligence for this and I usually refuse to fight with an unarmed opponent; nevertheless… The Bible is all we need to know. It is not one word too short or one word too long. If God had wished to say more or less, then He would have.

I would like to post a simply rough draft of a paper I was working on while I was away. I feel it answers your question.

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This is the Word of God

Mankind [irrelevancies deleted] veneration?

This reduces to “Have faith”

What is the Bible? [irrelevancies deleted] The Holy Bible is the proclaimed Word of God, and in the eyes of many billions of believers, this elevates its status beyond all other written text.

It does not matter what god you believe in, the Bible is the final word for Salvation™

What right does the Holy Bible have to claim divinity?

God.

[…] Thus, in an unending circle, Bible-only Christians must assert that they follow the Bible because the Bible commands it.

Assume for a moment, you were God. You wanted Your Word promulgated. What better method than a Book? Yet you come along and say, “Think of a better method…” OK little Ms smartass – think of a better method. Bear in mind your Satanic Majesty Darwin used a book to publicize he evil ideas.

no one but God himself could claim Scripture to be divine. [irrelevancies deleted] However, to have any divine authority outside of Scripture is commonly seen as blasphemous.

I think you’ve answered your own question.

Often it is asserted that “in your observance of the commandments of the Lord, your God, which I enjoin upon you, you shall not add to what I command you nor subtract from it” (Deuteronomy 4:2). However, in searching Scripture, there is no clear definition of exactly what these “commandments” are;

They seem clear enough to Landover.

[in the Bible] there is no divinely inspired table of contents.

Now Read on

The widely accepted table of contents for the Holy Bible was officially declared at the Council of Rome in the early fourth century by the Roman Catholic Church. In order to define what is to be included in Sacred Scripture, an equally Sacred authority is thereby required. In such an assertion, Christians are forced to accept that this extra-biblical canon established by the Catholic Church is also the true Word of God. However, yet another problem now arises: What gives the Catholic Church the authority to make such a statement? How can mere men determine what is and is not the word of their God? The answer is found in Apostolic Succession.

And there we have it! In your own argument, you show that the Church of Rome has no divine inspiration.

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This “paper” would be best taken to the bathroom an hung upon a nail.