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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 04-12-2007, 04:30 PM

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Do you just not have any filter on your brain, so you feel fine about spewing out any random lezbianic thought that crosses your small female brain?
And the tragic thing is, that's one of the more coherent and intelligent posts she's made in her time here. If she keeps this up much longer, I wouldn't be surprised to see Baby Jesus visting a crying club.


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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 04-12-2007, 06:22 PM

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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 05-17-2007, 02:02 AM

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i still love being a goth coz it makes me feel ok for being me but im dissillusoned with other goths. were supposed to be open to every1 and excepting of every1 but i keep seeing goths who are just as judging as every1 else. there was roserouge here n its happened on other boards ive been on as well as some goths ive met here in my city. whats the point of being part of a group of ppl who are outsiders if their going to be as judgementel as every1 else?
Angel, people who are actually following Christ will never truly judge you. These people on these forums here are just about as far away from Christ in their words than I have seen in my life. God judges, followers of Jesus Christ are called to spread his message to the ends of the earth. That message is not a message of condemnation, but a message of hope. A message of grace, of love.

Find someone that really understands the message of Christ, find someone from an Evangelical Free church, or a Baptist church. There are lots of churches with great doctrines, but Landover is unfortunately not one of them.

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Angel, people who are actually following Christ will never truly judge you. These people on these forums here are just about as far away from Christ in their words than I have seen in my life. God judges, followers of Jesus Christ are called to spread his message to the ends of the earth. That message is not a message of condemnation, but a message of hope. A message of grace, of love.

Find someone that really understands the message of Christ, find someone from an Evangelical Free church, or a Baptist church. There are lots of churches with great doctrines, but Landover is unfortunately not one of them.

I'm praying for you, maybe I can see you in heaven someday soon!

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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 05-17-2007, 02:51 AM

Let's pretend to be adults here, what do you think is not Biblical about what I am saying?
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Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
12:53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.


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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 05-17-2007, 03:08 AM

And you take this to mean violence? Look at some context here, the Jews expected Jesus to come and rid them of the Romans, to make the world peaceful. These verses are saying that is absolutely not what He came to do. The Word of God is to be a salt unto the earth, this naturally insists that the world will not be peaceful. Have you ever seen a person receive salt on a fresh wound? That is not exactly a "peaceful" site.

How can you assume he means that He has come to invoke violence? He directly refutes violence when speaking to an angry mob.

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7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Why would, as you say, a person who comes to invoke violence, condemn it?
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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 05-17-2007, 03:25 AM

I apologize, I had another post in mind when answering your post.

Looking back at your post, that's ALOT easier to answer than what i thought I was answering. Always a little blessing, isn't there? ;-)

There is going to be division, just as I said above, Chirstians are the salt of the earth. But Christians are NOT the ones that create the divison. God has sparked the division, Christians are not called in anyway to press people away from the Truth, much to the opposite. We are called to love our neighbor as ourselves, and to spread that word to the ends of the earth, to make disciples of all nations. How can this possibly mean that Christians are to drive wedges between people and God?
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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 05-17-2007, 11:43 AM

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Looking back at your post, that's ALOT easier to answer than what i thought I was answering. Always a little blessing, isn't there? ;-)
There is indeed, Praise Him!
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There is going to be division, just as I said above, Chirstians are the salt of the earth. But Christians are NOT the ones that create the divison. God has sparked the division, Christians are not called in anyway to press people away from the Truth, much to the opposite. We are called to love our neighbor as ourselves, and to spread that word to the ends of the earth, to make disciples of all nations. How can this possibly mean that Christians are to drive wedges between people and God?
Of course we shouldn't drive people away from God, and your comment about "making disciples of all nations" would seem to indicate that you do indeed have some basic familiarity with Christ's message. So do you see how we must make disciples across the Middle East by invading their countries, killing their leaders, and converting them to Christianity?


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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 05-17-2007, 08:42 PM

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Why would, as you say, a person who comes to invoke violence, condemn it?
Look how Jesus doesn't say that nobody may cast stones.
But He says that he who is without sin may cast stones.

And friend, he who abides in Jesus Christ is made sinfree as 1 John 3:5-9 says.
And thus he may cast stones. (ie we true believers may cast stones.)


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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 05-18-2007, 03:17 AM

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i still love being a goth coz it makes me feel ok for being me but im dissillusoned with other goths. were supposed to be open to every1 and excepting of every1 but i keep seeing goths who are just as judging as every1 else. there was roserouge here n its happened on other boards ive been on as well as some goths ive met here in my city. whats the point of being part of a group of ppl who are outsiders if their going to be as judgementel as every1 else?
just as in any group there are always a few rotten apples, but i think its realie up to you and how you feel and not any one else, do what makes you feel right.
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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 05-18-2007, 10:27 AM

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do what makes you feel right.
That can lead to rather twisted solutions on his part (we'd get a 'Bowling for Columbine' type of thing in the goth clubs or something). If you are really bothered about being with a group you don't want to be, you might want to reconsider how 'goth' and 'on-your-own' you really are. Because the things you describe to be as your problem come over to me as those of somebody who is desperately trying to cling to a group (s)he wants to be in. Being goth, as far as I know about it, isn't about conformism, it's about being yourself.

You can be yourself perfectly well without having to conform to others. You can be a group on your own, you can be just you. There's nobody MAKING you still hang out with crappy people, is there? If you hate the judgemental goths then avoid them...


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just as in any group there are always a few rotten apples, but i think its realie up to you and how you feel and not any one else, do what makes you feel right.
What a typical atheist response.
First, an obvious denial of the truth coupled with worn-out expressions of speech..
And an nihilistic/anarchistic "do what you want to do" making your post even more unoriginal and dumb.

You say hate is bad but you're full of it..
You hate God and you hate America, and you show it in every post you make.

STOP thinking you are any more special than the rest of you amoral gothtards and START repenting of your sins and accepting Jesus!
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Let's pretend to be adults here, what do you think is not Biblical about what I am saying?
Well, they is plenty of thangs you has said on this board that is unbiblical, some of which had done did already been addresseded. So less jus' look at this one little comment you had said and see how it measure up with the LORD'S Word!
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Angel, people who are actually following Christ will never truly judge you. These people on these forums here are just about as far away from Christ in their words than I have seen in my life.
Oooo, honey! You needs Jesus and you needs him BAD! You says that we is far away from Christ, and that folk who follows Christ does not judge... well, lessee what the Bible (KJV1611) haves to say 'bout that:

Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. -Leviticus 19:15

The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment. - Psalm 37:30

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. - John 7:24

They is other verses that address this issue as well, but unless you is the most ignant person I has ever seen, these should get the point across.

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You is right about one thang: God do judge. And we is called to be like Him in everythang we does, so we judge too! If the LORD say to kill witches, then we is gonna kill them! Currently, they be secular laws that be in the way of that, but the President be workin' on fixin' that problem. Praise!

As far as His Word bein' a message of hope, it only be a message of hope to True Christians™ (which you ain't)! To those who do not live they life in Christ, this what gonna happen:

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. - Revelation 20:15

I'ma pray that you find Jesus befo'e it be too late.

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How can you assume he means that He has come to invoke violence? He directly refutes violence when speaking to an angry mob.
It always make me laugh whenever folk try to say Jesus had been peaceful. They plenty out there to refutes this, but my favorite be when He had chased them joos around with a whip! I wish I coulda been there to see them joos get what was comin' to 'em!

And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; - John 2:13-15


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Default Re: im thinking of not being a goth anymore - 05-19-2007, 04:26 AM

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Angel, people who are actually following Christ will never truly judge you. These people on these forums here are just about as far away from Christ in their words than I have seen in my life. God judges, followers of Jesus Christ are called to spread his message to the ends of the earth. That message is not a message of condemnation, but a message of hope. A message of grace, of love.

Find someone that really understands the message of Christ, find someone from an Evangelical Free church, or a Baptist church. There are lots of churches with great doctrines, but Landover is unfortunately not one of them.

I'm praying for you, maybe I can see you in heaven someday soon!

Revan
My friend, Christ's message is simple. Christ is telling us simply that we must follow him or he will subject us to almost unbelievable brutality -- he will subject us to an eternity of torture in the Fires of Hell.

This is the message not of a soft-hearted and weak God, as you would have us believe; but the message of a jealous and righteous God who will not brook disobedience. A very small minority of people: people chosen by God: will go to be with him in Heaven. But most will not.

Statistically, the chances of any particular person going to Heaven are very slight. We at Landover are fortunate to be amongst the Elect© -- the fortunate few who will.

What about you, Revan? Will you too be Saved© or are you going to persist in error and be flung with Satan and his followers into everlasting darkness?


Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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