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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 03:44 PM

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You surely don't know the difference between true facts and imaginary stories. There's a huge difference between a fact and an insult that is not true at all. And that bothers me, because why the hell (is this phrase allowed on this forum?) do you have to say lies about other nationalities .....
So according to you it is a fact that everyone who believes in the Holy Bible is, to use your own words, "brainwashed/badly educated/mentally ill"?

Why all this hate? What did religious people ever do to you to make you so extremely hateful?


Freedom means voting for Donald Trump!
To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 04:14 PM

@Alphonse Alban
What makes you think that I am not smart?
And do you know what a FACT is?

@Cranky Old Man
I have nothing against people who follow religion till they don't bother me. Making nonsense facts about country where you have never been to and insulting people who follow other traditions is what makes me hate this madness.

Religion was good at first. It united people. But later, when some religions got more followers then they started to slaving the mankind. All the education/science was abandoned, people were murdered without any good reason, wars broke out, lying ...
Why was it needed?
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 04:26 PM

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What makes you think that I am not smart?
And do you know what a FACT is?
You complain about insults and then you insult people. When you are pointed your hypocrisy, you don't even get it. After that you go on about facts, and back up your "facts" with opinions. Then you ask us what makes us thinking that you are not smart.

Please, try to use your brain for once.
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 04:52 PM

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I have nothing against people who follow religion till they don't bother me.
Please explain how a discussion on a private internet forum "bothers" anyone outside the membership of that forum. Nobody forced you to come here to be "bothered". You are free to close your browser and walk away at any time.



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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 04:58 PM

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I have nothing against people who follow religion till they don't bother me.
Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums! If Freedom of Speech and the free Expression of Religious Beliefs bothers you, you can simply turn off your computer, get up off your seat, and take a walk outside. Note God's glorious creation! It will do you good!

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Religion was good at first. It united people. But later, when some religions got more followers then they started to slaving the mankind. All the education/science was abandoned, people were murdered without any good reason, wars broke out, lying ...
Why was it needed?
Because mankind is a slave by nature. We are born slaves to sin. The good news is that we can choose to be slaves to Christ! The thing is, dear, there is no freedom for those who want to be slaves, so we work to break through the blinders, to show them that there IS freedom in being a slave to Christ! There is Righteousness! And that is the ultimate freedom - freedom from an eternity of God's Merciful Justice for Sinners: The LAKE OF FIRE (Revelation 20:14-15)!

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:16-18


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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 04:59 PM

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You complain about insults and then you insult people.
I don´t get it. Why do you have to make up these stories about that my country is bad and that only USA is a good country. Calling others as "ultra-fascist, commies or nazis" or w/e. I don´t get it, where the hell do you take these sayings? As far as I know you follow the Bible and I´m pretty sure that the Bible has nothing to say about that USA is the best and every other country is a homeland of terrorists/satans/hitlers.

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Then you ask us what makes us thinking that you are not smart.
Firstly, you have problems with functional reading. I asked only you what makes you think that I am not smart.


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Please, try to use your brain for once.
Please, stop talking nonsense and stop posting some useless sentences that have no point at all.

How hard is it to respect other cultures, traditions, people? If you believe that the Bible is the only right thing then believe it, but respect others also. If you don´t respect others then just keep the ugly thoughts inside you. You are a grown man but you act like a child.
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 05:09 PM

If you live with thoughts that you are a slave then your self-esteem is low.


I´m kind of happy for getting my first forum award on this forum, but I have to say that this award is not for me. I bet that I can beat any of you at any topic except theology, shall we have some kind of test/exam/quiz?
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 05:13 PM

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If you live with thoughts that you are a slave then your self-esteem is low.
On the contrary, as a daughter of the King of Kings (2 Corinthians 6:18), I have been reborn. In me the LORD made a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17), and as such, I am perfect. My self esteem is perfectly strong and Biblically humble, I guarantee it.

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I´m kind of happy for getting my first forum award on this forum, but I have to say that this award is not for me. I bet that I can beat any of you at any topic except theology, shall we have some kind of test/exam/quiz?
This is not a debate forum, dear. We are right and you are wrong according to the LORD. If you have Scriptural support for the contrary, please do provide it. Otherwise, you might wish to read and learn something.



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I asked only you what makes you think that I am not smart.
I already replied to you. It is quite obvious for rest of us that you are not very smart. It's OK, that you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but stop to think every once and a while. You are just making yourself look even more foolish all the time, since you don't make any sense.
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 05:34 PM

Learn something from the Bible?
I'm not weak, I have a very high self-esteem. Also, this old book is denying the fundamental physics and many other things - this book is not for me. I'm not going to read lies - this won't give me anything!
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I'm not weak, I have a very high self-esteem.
Friend, I will give you a free advise. No one will ever believe that you are smart when you act like an idiot. Same think with self-esteem. Do you actually think that anyone will believe that you have a high self-esteem when you portrait yourself in a way that you have a low self-esteem. You can try to convince yourself all you want, but no one will believe you as long as you behave like you do.

You think that you can't learn anything from the Bible, yet Jesus has taught you already many lessons here
Think about it.
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 06:09 PM

Huh, calling yourself as a normal person? Who the hell you think you are? Insulting others, denying the facts, thinking that you are smarter than me, heh.

All I want to know is why the hell do you have to say some idiotic "facts" about a country which you have never been to and never known what is happing there. As far as I have asked this question, nobody has given me an answer.
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Huh, calling yourself as a normal person? Who the hell you think you are? Insulting others, denying the facts, thinking that you are smarter than me, heh.

All I want to know is why the hell do you have to say some idiotic "facts" about a country which you have never been to and never known what is happing there. As far as I have asked this question, nobody has given me an answer.
See? This is just great example of behaving like an idiot with a low self-esteem.
Friend, about time Jesus made you come to this forum. You have lot to learn.

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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 06:33 PM

I agree with you Alphonse on the point that one can learn something from almost anything. The lessons might not be particularly valuable or even desirable, though.

On a somber note, I'm terribly sorry for possibly breaking your bliss, but if you would convey your thoughts about what is smart, 'true', or fact, to the world outside of the Landover Babtist Church (or more generally outside of your particular sect), you are in fact the one who would come across as the one who is making a fool of himself.

I will also offer a possible explanation of the "misunderstanding" about insults in this thread. There is nothing illogical about UseYourBrainPls's comments, as Attila's Wife puts it. You (quite strongly) slander Estonia, UseYourBrainPls (who evidently lives in Estonia) happened to read this and took it as an insult. He/she then pointed out that it is not nice to insult, and made another remark (which was justified, to be honest), which you then took as an insult.

Your only excuse is that this is indeed your "private" forum (albeit truthfully, not so private if completely random people from the other side of the world come here), but you should be aware that your views are not shared by most the world outside of your sect and from time-to-time this "private" forum will draw some attention on itself for expressing certain opinions.

I am no Don Quixote and will not try to make you change any of your values or beliefs, but I tried to offer you some perspective. Take it or leave it.
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 07:11 PM

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On a somber note, I'm terribly sorry for possibly breaking your bliss, but if you would convey your thoughts about what is smart, 'true', or fact, to the world outside of the Landover Babtist Church (or more generally outside of your particular sect), you are in fact the one who would come across as the one who is making a fool of himself.
In the end, we'll have the last laugh:

1 Corinthians 1:19-21
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

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I am no Don Quixote and will not try to make you change any of your values or beliefs, but I tried to offer you some perspective. Take it or leave it.
We'll leave it, but thank you for your concern.

Anyway, are you going to answer to my previous reply to you (this post)?
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 07:24 PM

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I agree with you Alphonse.
Good so far...
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You (quite strongly) slander Estonia, UseYourBrainPls (who evidently lives in Estonia) happened to read this and took it as an insult. He/she then pointed out that it is not nice to insult, and made another remark (which was justified, to be honest), which you then took as an insult.
Not so good anymore...

How is assembling a list of facts on Estonia slander? Slander requires a lie first. Second, how, if it were slander on Estonia, is it relevant to UseYourBrainPls? It's his choice to live in Estonia, if he doesn't agree with evil than he should either bring his fellow Estonians to God or he should leave the country. He can't just go around ignoring the evil there by shouting insults at others, hoping it will stop him from hearing the Truth™ about himself.


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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 07:24 PM

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Learn something from the Bible?...
Yes. Number 1 would be learning what the Bible actually says (most "Christians" either don't have a clue or will flat out deny half of it).

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...Also, this old book is denying the fundamental physics and many other things...
And when they come up with a Grand Unified Theory that actually works, every book printed previously will be wrong. So don't read anything until then.

Great plan.

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... - this book is not for me. I'm not going to read lies - this won't give me anything!
How do you know that until you've read it?

Just keep calling everyone else "closed-minded". You'll win!


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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 08:30 PM

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Anyway, are you going to answer to my previous reply to you (this post)?
I'm sorry, I assumed that your questions where rhetorical.
I can read critically in 3 languages, generally understand a few more.
I am familiar with what a hypothesis is. While I'm not an expert in anthropology and linguistics, in science the 'hierarchy' usually goes from hypothesis to theory to scientific fact. I don't know the rigor required to elevate one to another in humanitarian sciences, but I guess I implicitly assumed that the idea we were talking about was a hypothesis.

To A Follower:
Okay, I'll rephrase slightly. The 'flavour' some of the connoisseurs of Estonian culture in this thread add to their posts is considered rude by those who don't follow your particular code of conduct. In other cases, some members of your congregation seem to be extremely misinformed, so maybe they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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Default Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia - 03-28-2014, 09:03 PM

A few more remarks. First, A Follower, it is in very bad taste to quote out of context.

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And when they come up with a Grand Unified Theory that actually works, every book printed previously will be wrong. So don't read anything until then.
This is actually a common misconception I'll happily remedy. A grand unified theory (GUT) is expected to be in accordance with all of the previous theories - simply expanding our understanding and hopefully offering us 'clues' of where to look next. If a new theory (that is justified) actually overthrows a previously established one (a very exciting event!) then it truly is, dare I say, Godsent.
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A few more remarks. First, A Follower, it is in very bad taste to quote out of context.
The context is on this very same page. You can't have read my post before reading the context. My post even links to his post. And even then, I didn't leave out anything important.

Stop hating on us Christians for following the path God has laid out for us, stop your slander, stop your hatred, stop your lies, stop your evil, stop your sins, stop everything you do now and come to Jesus. Start being a good person like me or any of my brothers in Christ. You know deep in your heart that that's what you really want.


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