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Default Re: False Religions And Cults - 11-12-2012, 03:55 AM

It's brings me so much enjoyment to see people expressing free ideas and beliefs.
If people so denounce any other religion but their own and enforce their own on people without letting them choose for themselves, what good does it do? It seems to me that this entire website is nothing more than that, a place to express ideas of what a perfect world should be in their own eyes. In most of your cases, it would be Jesus's eyes. For a Hindu, it might be the goddess Shiva, even Muslims and their god Allah. Perhaps it may be a god whom none of us have even heard of or none whatsoever.
Regardless, the end result is still the same. I don't want to see anyone get hurt in anyway. So long as no one gets hurt, who cares what religion people have. I must say though, peoples views on different religions, ideas, stories, etc. other than their own are....startling to say the least. Perhaps they best research that idea more before spreading untrue lies about it.
Anyway, I digress. Just remember that to much oppression and religious conversion is a bad thing. Just look at all of histories tragedies because of it. People are who they are, Gay/Straight, Black/White, Male/Female/Asexual, Christian/Hindi/Muslim, etc. Accept it as a part of life. If you want to change that simple fact, than I say that YOU can go to hell, sir/madam. And if you think I should go to hell or be condemn when the rapture comes, than I suppose I shall have to deal with that, because what matters now is caring about the people you love and your own life, not something that may or may not happen.
I'd much rather have everyone at peace with each other, not having people try to convert others to a religion they don't want to be in. I'm pretty happy with my life and others are as well. Are you happy with yours?
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Default Re: False Religions And Cults - 11-12-2012, 04:09 AM

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It's brings me so much enjoyment to see people expressing free ideas and beliefs.
If people so denounce any other religion but their own and enforce their own on people without letting them choose for themselves, what good does it do? It seems to me that this entire website is nothing more than that, a place to express ideas of what a perfect world should be in their own eyes. In most of your cases, it would be Jesus's eyes. For a Hindu, it might be the goddess Shiva, even Muslims and their god Allah. Perhaps it may be a god whom none of us have even heard of or none whatsoever.
Regardless, the end result is still the same. I don't want to see anyone get hurt in anyway. So long as no one gets hurt, who cares what religion people have. I must say though, peoples views on different religions, ideas, stories, etc. other than their own are....startling to say the least. Perhaps they best research that idea more before spreading untrue lies about it.
Anyway, I digress. Just remember that to much oppression and religious conversion is a bad thing. Just look at all of histories tragedies because of it. People are who they are, Gay/Straight, Black/White, Male/Female/Asexual, Christian/Hindi/Muslim, etc. Accept it as a part of life. If you want to change that simple fact, than I say that YOU can go to hell, sir/madam. And if you think I should go to hell or be condemn when the rapture comes, than I suppose I shall have to deal with that, because what matters now is caring about the people you love and your own life, not something that may or may not happen.
I'd much rather have everyone at peace with each other, not having people try to convert others to a religion they don't want to be in. I'm pretty happy with my life and others are as well. Are you happy with yours?

Whoa there buddy. Where are we trying to force anything on anyone? Where are we trying to convert people? You wander in here like a bum off the street and start making wild accusations, you better back it up with specific examples.

As far as whether you're going to Hell, that has absolutely NOTHING to do with us: that is between you and Jesus.

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It's brings me so much enjoyment to see people expressing free ideas and beliefs.
If people so denounce any other religion but their own and enforce their own on people without letting them choose for themselves, what good does it do? It seems to me that this entire website is nothing more than that, a place to express ideas of what a perfect world should be in their own eyes. In most of your cases, it would be Jesus's eyes. For a Hindu, it might be the goddess Shiva, even Muslims and their god Allah. Perhaps it may be a god whom none of us have even heard of or none whatsoever.
Regardless, the end result is still the same. I don't want to see anyone get hurt in anyway. So long as no one gets hurt, who cares what religion people have. I must say though, peoples views on different religions, ideas, stories, etc. other than their own are....startling to say the least. Perhaps they best research that idea more before spreading untrue lies about it.
Anyway, I digress. Just remember that to much oppression and religious conversion is a bad thing. Just look at all of histories tragedies because of it. People are who they are, Gay/Straight, Black/White, Male/Female/Asexual, Christian/Hindi/Muslim, etc. Accept it as a part of life. If you want to change that simple fact, than I say that YOU can go to hell, sir/madam. And if you think I should go to hell or be condemn when the rapture comes, than I suppose I shall have to deal with that, because what matters now is caring about the people you love and your own life, not something that may or may not happen.
I'd much rather have everyone at peace with each other, not having people try to convert others to a religion they don't want to be in. I'm pretty happy with my life and others are as well. Are you happy with yours?
Son, you sound like you're all potted up on weed. What can you possibly mean people are who they are? Who else would people be? But no one is born gay.


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Default Re: False Religions And Cults - 11-12-2012, 04:28 AM

Why would I use pot or any drugs. It kills your brain and you die...
I'm just simply stating that I think people who enforce religion aren't doing any good for anyone. Stating that a religion is false is something I find distasteful.
Simply let people believe what they want without question, so long as no harm is done, and you have peace. Simple.
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Default Re: False Religions And Cults - 11-16-2012, 02:59 AM

Hi, my name is Dylan and it seems you folks are very set in your ways. That's great. You know what you believe and you stick to it. However, there are a few opinions I don't quite agree with and some of what you say hurts my heart. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it is evil. I joined this site to meet new people and hopefully open a few eyes. I would like to start out by saying that even though I am an atheist I keep an open mind. Not to mention I was raised and lived in a christian household. I went through confirmation and learned a lot. I try to find something I like in every religion. Something I agree with at least. Just because we don't share the same beliefs doesn't mean I'm a soulless monster. Everyone, inherently, has a moral compass. I know right from wrong. I will always try to be nice to everyone I meet unless they give me reason to be otherwise. I would love to answer any questions you throw my way. Any conflicting notions you have about atheists or maybe other religions. I experienced different worship services while going through Confirmation and I will be happy to talk with anyone. I'm sorry if I sound like a therapist I just don't want to seem rude and pushy. I hope you will give me a chance. I have been pleasantly surprised when I've asked people of other faith questions.
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Default Re: False Religions And Cults - 11-16-2012, 03:10 AM

Welcome to God's favorite forum. Your story sounds interesting. Please start a thread in the introductions forum, and tell us how Jesus reached inside you. What are your favorite Bible verses?

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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

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Okay! Okay! I'm sorry! I'm leaving. But before I go I want to ask you why did you bring up MY rectum. You wanna piffle me or something? Why would you bring up something like that? Honestly ask yourself that. And second, you guys are far from being Christian like. In my opinion you are worst than Westboro. God didn't tell you to go around calling people names like 'nancy boy'. You're bullies and you will never change and I hope one day just ONE of you realizes how rude you are being. You should be trying to bring people into your faith not drive them away. I came here to be enlightened not mocked and made fun of. You're very rude. I am not scum and you cannot live in your diluted little world forever. Something's gotta give. I came here to learn what Jesus preached while he was here on earth but seeing you guys has set me even more firmly into the ways of atheism. Think about that. Love thy neighbor. Isnt' that what Jesus said? You guys have no love except for you imaginary friend. I feel sorry for you. You will never know love or friendship. I'm done here.


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Love thy neighbor. Isnt' that what Jesus said?
And what do you think Jesus meant by "neighbor?" Do you think He meant every Tom, Dick and Harry you meet? Do you seriously think that Jesus wants us to love witches, atheists and queers?

Don't take things out of context, heathen. We know our Bibles.


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: False Religions And Cults - 01-17-2013, 09:54 PM

first off, catholics do not worship marry, AGAIN, WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARRY! we simply respect her and thank her for being the hand maiden of god. she is jesus's mother, we ask her to pray with us for help. we dont pray to her. second. we do not worship satan, in fact when we renew our baptism vows, we clear state that we renounce satan, and all his evil. does that sound like worship? no! sounds a whole lot like we are hmmmmm, renouncing satan. we do not worship anyone except God, we don't worship saints, we ask them to pray with us, or for us. we don't pray to them. its a lot like asking your friends to pray with you. you go hey, im having a really togh time, will you pray with me." only its, "saint francis, my dog is really sick, will you pray with me for him" (hes the saint of animals) not worshiping him, just praying with him.
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we ask her to pray with us for help.
Um, she's dead.

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first off, catholics do not worship marry, AGAIN, WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARRY!...
You deny the Bible (Catholics don't believe in the Creation any more, they're even embracing evolution and the Big Bang), is it any surprise you deny the dictionary as well?

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wor·ship [wur-ship] Show IPA noun, verb, wor·shiped, wor·ship·ing or ( especially British ) wor·shipped, wor·ship·ping.
noun
1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.
2. formal or ceremonious rendering of such honor and homage: They attended worship this morning.
3. adoring reverence or regard: excessive worship of business success.
4. the object of adoring reverence or regard.
5. ( initial capital letter ) British . a title of honor used in addressing or mentioning certain magistrates and others of high rank or station (usually preceded by Your, His, or Her ).
from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/worship
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...we simply respect her and thank her for being the hand maiden of god. she is jesus's mother, we ask her to pray with us for help...
Why? She's dead. Her "ascension"? Catholic myth with no Biblical foundation.

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...we don't worship saints, we ask them to pray with us, or for us. we don't pray to them. its a lot like asking your friends to pray with you...
Except for the fact that anyone I'd ask to do something is, oh yeah, NOT dead.


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first off, catholics do not worship marry, AGAIN, WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARRY!
Friend, you seem a bit upset by all this information. I hate to add to the pile because I know it can be hard to face that which we try desperately to deny, but you really should know, for the sake of your immortal soul, what the Truth is. Here's proof that the character you know as Mary is naught but a compilation of many pagan goddesses. You don't use words like "worship" in your masses, but the essence is just the same. Indeed, your own church calls her "co-redediatrix," that is on par with Christ. She is, in all practicality, a goddess.


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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except, jesus is dead too uh oh your screwed.
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except, jesus is dead too uh oh your screwed.
And the Catholic Church says you're going to Hell if you believe that (one of the few things they haven't corrupted/ripped out of the Bible yet).

The Bible says Jesus was dead (for three-ish days) but then He got better. You really should read it. Start here.


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accept marry never died either, she ascended into heaven like jesus. you cal bull, ill call bull. this is the stupidest site ever, i got an infraction, the reason being " yappity yap yap yappity" you are like children!
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accept marry never died either, she ascended into heaven like jesus.
Chapter and verse please. Anything other than the Word of God is dangerous and foolish heresy.

But we know our Savior Jesus Christ did.

Acts 1:9-11 "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

I will pray for your corrupt and lost soul, my friend.

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first off, catholics do not worship marry, AGAIN, WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARRY! we simply respect her and thank her for being the hand maiden of god. she is jesus's mother, we ask her to pray with us for help. we dont pray to her. second. we do not worship satan, in fact when we renew our baptism vows, we clear state that we renounce satan, and all his evil. does that sound like worship? no! sounds a whole lot like we are hmmmmm, renouncing satan. we do not worship anyone except God, we don't worship saints, we ask them to pray with us, or for us. we don't pray to them. its a lot like asking your friends to pray with you. you go hey, im having a really togh time, will you pray with me." only its, "saint francis, my dog is really sick, will you pray with me for him" (hes the saint of animals) not worshiping him, just praying with him.
Friend, one of the first things the catlicks do is indoctrinate its captured followers into a life of lies.
Here is what the Holy Bible, the Word of God, has to say about you praying to 'mary'.
Mark 3:32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
Mark 3:33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
Mark 3:34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
(Jesus rejected his mother (and brothers))

Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Luke 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
Luke 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
(Jesus thinks Mary is unimportant compared to the Gospel)

John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
(Jesus addresses his mother as "woman" and rejects her rudely.

John 2:5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.
(The only command Mary ever gave was to obey Jesus)

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Acts 1:14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
(The last time Mary is mentioned in the Bible, the apostles are praying with her - not to her)

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
(Praying to Mary is a waste of time)

1st Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1st Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


1st John 2:1 ...And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. (Praying to Mary - even as a mediatrix - is a waste of time)

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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Chapter and verse please. Anything other than the Word of God is dangerous and foolish heresy...
He'll probably offer up John 14:3, "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." which, although it doesn't mention Mary at all (in fact, there's not a peep about her in the whole chapter), was offered as PROOF of the Assumption by the Pope in (get a load of this) 1950!!

It only took their "infallible" geniuses a little over 1,900 YEARS after the (alleged) incidents took place to realize that, "Hey, these simpletons have bought every line of crap we've sold them since day 1, if we add this to the pile no one's gonna notice, right? And we can milk them for even more cash, because more 'saints' and obligatory holidays (never mind the lack of Biblical justification, we can just say it's 'tradition', which we conveniently elevated to equivalence with Scripture when we had to explain another one of our seeming heresies) mean more people paying cover charge offerings in the plate, trinkets sold to the suckers faithful, etc., golden thrones all around, boys".



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