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A question about sex and virginity -
09-07-2009, 06:17 PM
Firstly if this is in the wrong thread/group I apologize and could someone please move it to the correct one.
OK, I know that all christian women should be virgins until their wedding night, but what about christian men? My question is because, I still being a virgin have recently had "offers" from some women who I know. They are not christian women so I have been thinking to myself, as these aren't christian women, and they're British also, am I not doing anything wrong?
To put it crudely, I would like to be able to perform well for my christian wife on our wedding night so by having relations with women before marriage would it be OK for a christian male?
I know it sounds incredibly lustful of myself to think of the women in this way, but that is why I came here to ask on my judgement.
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Re: A question about sex and virginity -
09-07-2009, 06:36 PM
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Firstly if this is in the wrong thread/group I apologize and could someone please move it to the correct one.
OK, I know that all christian women should be virgins until their wedding night, but what about christian men? My question is because, I still being a virgin have recently had "offers" from some women who I know. They are not christian women so I have been thinking to myself, as these aren't christian women, and they're British also, am I not doing anything wrong?
To put it crudely, I would like to be able to perform well for my christian wife on our wedding night so by having relations with women before marriage would it be OK for a christian male?
I know it sounds incredibly lustful of myself to think of the women in this way, but that is why I came here to ask on my judgement.
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Re: A question about sex and virginity -
09-07-2009, 06:45 PM
No way. No, no, no, no.
You can't just take advantage of the fact that you're a male Christian, that's just low. We're all waiting patiently for our night to come, and you're just basicly hitting on a whore just because you think that's okay for a male Christian + a non believing female. God damn you if you even think of executing this idea again.
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09-07-2009, 06:50 PM
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No way. No, no, no, no.
You can't just take advantage of the fact that you're a male Christian, that's just low. We're all waiting patiently for our night to come, and you're just basicly hitting on a whore just because you think that's okay for a male Christian + a non believing female. God damn you if you even think of executing this idea again.
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These aren't just random women I have met, these are girls that I have grown up with and known for most of my life.
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09-07-2009, 06:53 PM
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These aren't just random women I have met, these are girls that I have grown up with and known for most of my life.
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09-07-2009, 06:54 PM
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These aren't just random women I have met, these are girls that I have grown up with and known for most of my life.
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It's still not okay. Marry one of them and wait for "your night" to come to prove you're a patient, honest and strong Christian.
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Yes my sisters . That would be quite incredible considering I'm an only child.
And to Jake, thank you for answering my question, it is better to wait then and I shall wait until my wedding night. I was just wanting to know so thanks.
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09-07-2009, 08:22 PM
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OK, I know that all christian women should be virgins until their wedding night, but what about christian men? My question is because, I still being a virgin have recently had "offers" from some women who I know. They are not christian women so I have been thinking to myself, as these aren't christian women, and they're British also, am I not doing anything wrong?
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Of course it is wrong. They might become True Christians ™ someday, and you would be responsible for destroying their innocence.
Besides, why would you want to pollute your body with an unwashed sinner anyway?
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16What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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09-08-2009, 12:22 AM
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Re: A question about sex and virginity -
09-08-2009, 05:54 AM
From Bless the Fall:
"To put it crudely, I would like to be able to perform well for my christian wife on our wedding night so by having relations with women before marriage would it be OK for a christian male?"
I have a question:
How will your Christian wife know if you have performed poorly or not ??
You are making the error of over thinking this and Satan is pumping all kinds of whorish folderol in your head.
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09-08-2009, 10:39 AM
I think as long as you are the "king" of your household, you have every right to "interview" as many women as necessary, just to make sure you are making the right choice. I am reminded of the story of Esther and King Ahasuerus in the book of Esther...
""All the fair young virgins" throughout the kingdom are brought before the king, and the one that "pleaseth" the king the most will replace Vashti."
I guess that means you can deflower a few runner-ups?
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Re: A question about sex and virginity -
09-08-2009, 12:13 PM
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To put it crudely, I would like to be able to perform well for my christian wife on our wedding night so by having relations with women before marriage would it be OK for a christian male?
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Women who enjoy sex are whores, pure and simple. If your imaginary future wife wants you to "perform" for her in a sexual way, then she is a whore. Just because you're married to someone, that does not change lust into Godliness!
I'm sick and tired of supposed Christians thinking that marriage before God is some sort of sexual E-ticket for a life of recreational sex!
God created men and women with different "parts" down there so they could produce little Soldiers for Christ, not as some sort of way to kill time or enjoy themselves. Sex is a shameful, embarrassing duty for a True Christian™. It should be done in the dark, as quickly as possible, and with both partners praying to Jesus for forgiveness during the duration of the act.
God is everywhere, including in your marriage bed. Don't make Him watch you debauch your wife anymore than is absolutely necessary!
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Re: A question about sex and virginity -
09-08-2009, 06:47 PM
We know from Leviticus 15:
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18The woman also with whom man shall lie with seed of copulation, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the even. 19And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.
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this says to me that you care not for the women you would bed. You will be ok, but they are fallen and cannot get back up. That's why I emphatically do not allow men into my nest, instead minister to them in other ways.
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Re: A question about sex and virginity -
09-21-2009, 05:22 PM
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Women who enjoy sex are whores, pure and simple. If your imaginary future wife wants you to "perform" for her in a sexual way, then she is a whore. Just because you're married to someone, that does not change lust into Godliness!
I'm sick and tired of supposed Christians thinking that marriage before God is some sort of sexual E-ticket for a life of recreational sex!
God created men and women with different "parts" down there so they could produce little Soldiers for Christ, not as some sort of way to kill time or enjoy themselves. Sex is a shameful, embarrassing duty for a True Christian™. It should be done in the dark, as quickly as possible, and with both partners praying to Jesus for forgiveness during the duration of the act.
God is everywhere, including in your marriage bed. Don't make Him watch you debauch your wife anymore than is absolutely necessary!
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Oh dear Capt.
I kind of feel sad for you after reading that post...
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Re: A question about sex and virginity -
09-21-2009, 05:56 PM
If the women are unmarried/not engaged, and have already been with a man, then I see no reason (in Old Testament laws) that would prevent you from getting some practice in.
If a woman is married or engaged, than that's adultery, and you should be stoned.
If the woman has been deflowered already, then you don't owe the father for the dowry.
Think back to Isaiah 23:17-18.
17 And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the LORD will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.
18 And her merchandise and her hire shall be holiness to the LORD: it shall not be treasured nor laid up; for her merchandise shall be for them that dwell before the LORD, to eat sufficiently, and for durable clothing.
So long as the money raised by the whore goes to the church's good works, there isn't even a problem with paying for sex.
Here's a good website, with information on " pre-marital sex and whores".
It says pretty much the same thing I've just told you.
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Re: A question about sex and virginity -
09-22-2009, 03:34 AM
I would recommend that you be very sure about whom you'd like to give your virginity to; it'll sound obvious, but once you share it with someone, you can't get it back to give it to someone else. So you don't want to regret sharing it with someone. It should be special. It should be memorable and important to you. Are these potential candidates special to you? Do you love any them? Do you have any romantic feelings at all for any of them?
The only advice I can really offer is that you be sure, totally certain, that you won't regret it later on. You won't get a do-over; I mean, you'll be able to repeat the experience of sex whenever you like, but that first time can't be changed once it's happened. When I was a virgin I was pretty sure I wasn't going to save myself until marriage, but I did want to wait until I fell in love, and wait I did. I could've lost my virginity to a few other guys, but I'm glad I decided not to, I'm glad I decided to wait. And because of that, I've never regretted giving my virginity to the dude who has become known as Mortimer Snerd (don't ask, long story); even though things didn't work out between he and I (which is an even longer story, lol), I don't regret giving him my virginity because I was in love with him. See what I mean? Maybe you won't be in love with your first-time gal, but hopefully you'll never regret it.
Where are my manners? I just realised I haven't properly welcomed you to the forum yet! So, quite apart from imparting to you my sage advice, I would also like to welcome you to this wonderful forum, James (great name, by the way), and I hope you enjoy your time here and stay for a while. It was lovely to meet you, and if you ever want to chat, I always enjoy a good conversation. (Please don't believe any of the things the Landoverites will say to you about me!)
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Re: A question about sex and virginity -
09-22-2009, 04:41 AM
Why, thank you Allie for that debauched tale of whoredoms. I hope no one on here follows her lead down the road of premarital sex which leads straight to the gates of Hell.
Premarital sex is a gateway to further abominations. First a person has sex before marriage and they feel excited about rebelling against God. But, the novelty wears off after a while so they want to try something else. Then they start engaging in bizarre sexual acts (watersports, anal sex, S&M, etc.) but after a while the person craves MORE so they start delving into homosexual acts, and before long they're engaging in orgies and setting their eyes on children or elderly people or even animals. Eventually, the thirst to satiate their unstoppable carnal lust leads them to commit vicious rapes and murders.
Every single serial killer/rapist has had sex before marriage. It's a proven fact.
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09-22-2009, 11:17 PM
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Why, thank you A lie for that debauched tale of whoredoms. You're welcome. I hope no one on here follows her lead down the road of premarital sex which leads straight to the gates of Hell.
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That's interesting. So it's not all the other things about me (Pagan, Witch, pro-gay, pro-abortion [in the right circumstances], etc) that are going to get me into "Hell", but instead it's the premarital sex that sealed my fate? Very interesting.
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09-23-2009, 05:07 AM
Listen witch, how would you like a big fat ticket for public indecency on God's forums?
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