[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

Either way, this thread is about how many fags play tight end in the NFL, not your failure as a Christian.

I thought the ones on this list all played wide receiver.

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[KayReB]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

Either way, this thread is about how many fags play tight end in the NFL, not your failure as a Christian.

Agreed. I'm done here, nice talking with you.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by KayReB

Agreed. I'm done here, nice talking with you.

Read the Bible cover-to-cover then come back. It'll change your life, I promise!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[liss1122 Waiting for Email Confirmation]

I don't like all of this hate at all...and to me its GROSLY non christian. Didn't the bible teach to love your neighbours?? Does that mean only if there not gay? Also being gay isn't a disease, its called falling in love with someone who happens to be of the same sex, I don't see why that should cause offence to anyone. Please explain this because I don't understand. My philosphy is just be good to each other, be tolerent, friendly, loving, and no hate because hate is just plain ugly. If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off. I dont need to demonise different communities.

Id like to see what any of you guys think on the matter anyways, thanks

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Originally Posted by liss1122

I don't like all of this hate at all...and to me its GROSLY non christian.

In what Biblical sense is that being non-Christian?

Psalm 139:21-22 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

Didn't the bible teach to love your neighbours??

Our neighbours, yes. Foul sinners, no. A neighbor to me is someone who's my neighbor in Christ. A homosexual is not my neighbor.

Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
Proverbs 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Proverbs 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
Proverbs 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Does that mean only if there not gay?

It's not just the homos. God hates ALL sinners whether they're homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27), witches (Exodus 22:18), pedophiles (Matthew 18:6), non-believers (Revelation 21:8, 2 Chronicles 15:12-13), abominable (Revelation 21:8), murderers (Revelation 21:8), whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), idolaters (Revelation 21:8), liars (Revelation 21:8), disobedient children (Exodus 21:15, Exodus 21:17), fornicators (Romans 1:29), adulterers (Leviticus 20:10), thieves (Deuteronomy 24:7), blasphemers (Leviticus 24:15) or deceivers (Romans 1:29).

Also being gay isn't a disease, its called falling in love with someone who happens to be of the same sex, I don't see why that should cause offence to anyone. Please explain this because I don't understand.

Being gay is a SIN and should actually be considered a crime punishable by the death penalty according to Biblical law. It doesn't matter if homosexuality offends me or any other True Christian™ (which it certainly does). What really matters is that homosexuality OFFENDS GOD!

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

My philosphy is just be good to each other, be tolerent, friendly, loving, and no hate because hate is just plain ugly. If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off. I dont need to demonise different communities.

Your personal philosophy is of little relevance to us. God requires us to expose the sins of others. We don't do this in an attempt to "demonize different communities", we do this to try and show people the errors of their sinful ways and offer them a chance at redemption through Jesus Christ, just like the Bible commands.

1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by liss1122

I don't like all of this hate at all...and to me its GROSLY non christian. Didn't the bible teach to love your neighbours??

Thank you for your question, friend.

I have a couple of resources for you to read regarding this one, which comes up rather often.

Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

Does that mean only if there not gay?

Short answer, yes. If you read the frequently asked question above...

Also being gay isn't a disease,

You are right. It is a lifestyle choice that God hates. It is in the New Testament as well as the Old. Homosexuality is not to be tolerated.

its called falling in love with someone who happens to be of the same sex, I don't see why that should cause offence to anyone.

Honestly, I am not sure either, but it isn't up to me. God says it is an abomination, so I must too.

Please explain this because I don't understand. My philosphy is just be good to each other, be tolerent, friendly, loving, and no hate because hate is just plain ugly.

You were saying?

Psalm 139:19-24
19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off. I dont need to demonise different communities.

I see. Do you do that when people are sitting on the railroad tracks with their music too loud while a train bears down on them? Do you just "turn the other cheek and walk away?"

Or do you walk up and warn them that they are about to die? What if they were doing something that could get them sent to eternal torture? Would you help them then?

Id like to see what any of you guys think on the matter anyways, thanks

You're welcome.

[liss1122 Waiting for Email Confirmation]

You make some good points, and I understand, or am at least gaining more understanding on what makes you tick, I just choose to have my beliefs as well as you have yours. And I don't mind you mot agreeing with the gay lifestyle as long as you leave them to it, cus most people are happy as they are and don't want to be preached or told what there doing is wrong cus its not a nice way to approach anyone in my opinion. If it was me I would let them be gay, but if they wanted to change or get support etc, approach the church and get the guidence they wanted should they decide to be religious. I just beleive in equal rights I guess and live and let live, because the world is a lot more of a happy place when people get on, and don't fight.

[Paragon of virtue]

Originally Posted by liss1122

I don't like...hate...Didn't the bible teach to love your neighbours??...My philosphy is just be good to each other, be tolerent, friendly, loving, and no hate because hate is just plain ugly...If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off...

#1 You are either a liar or just plain ignorant. You rally against hate, but there is no love in your heart. If you really loved these homers and were truly being "good", "friendly" and "loving" you would warn them about where they are heading. ; To put it bluntly no matter how "gay" they are there is one "straight" thing in their lives--that being the path of unrighteousness that leads "straight" to Hell!!! 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27

#2 You are not only a liar/ignoramus (and most likely a reprobate whore), but you are also quite lazy. What the Bible calls a sluggard. Proverbs 10:4 and Proverbs 26:14. You are too lazy to actually read your Bible, and thus far too lazy to help the homers whom you call "friends". With "friends" like you, who needs enemies? Proverbs 10:26. If you were the tiniest bit industrious instead of being a mouthy layabout you would blow the dust off the Bible and read what Jesus actually said about turning the other cheek, Matthew 5:39 and Luke 6:29. If one of these sissypants homers slaps you with his limp wrist, then you should turn the other cheek so that they can slap that as well. I guess Luke goes further and if the homer wants your pink, frilly coat you can give that to him as well. That's being proactive! That's doing something, you, slothful slug. It's showing the sinner that you are strong and have a backbone, and that you don't need a pink, frilly coat!!

Thank God, that Jesus didn't turn the other cheek and then walk away on us. I'll assure you that, although He loved us, He didn't "like" us or the things that we were doing. Matthew 15:22-28. If he had turned the other cheek and walked away, then we would all be Hellbound like you and the homers. Fortunately, God is neither slack nor lazy 2 Peter 2:9 and when Jesus laid down His life for us, He gave us all a chance for salvation--but if we love Him we must keep his commandments. John 15:13 and 1 John 5:3. It's not so much to ask...and one last reminder Matthew 5:17; That means all the many verses in the Old Testament condemning homosexuality remain valid for us today no matter what they say in Washington.

However, do keep in mind that we must follow the law of the land, so stoning is out for now and that's lucky for you! Romans 13:1-7

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Originally Posted by liss1122

You make some good points, and I understand, or am at least gaining more understanding on what makes you tick, I just choose to have my beliefs as well as you have yours. And I don't mind you mot agreeing with the gay lifestyle as long as you leave them to it, cus most people are happy as they are and don't want to be preached or told what there doing is wrong cus its not a nice way to approach anyone in my opinion. If it was me I would let them be gay, but if they wanted to change or get support etc, approach the church and get the guidence they wanted should they decide to be religious. I just beleive in equal rights I guess and live and let live, because the world is a lot more of a happy place when people get on, and don't fight.

Someone who enables homosexuality is no better than a sodomite in the eyes of the Lord. Sure you are free to have your own unsaved opinions but that won't change the fact that you will be roasting in hell as Jesus laughs in heaven. You hate Jesus and Jesus hates you. The only way to redemption is through repentance.

2 Chronicles 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

[senator79]

Do you even realize how ignorant you sound? You freaks are one step above Westboro. Wash O'Hanley looks like a creepy pedophile. Perhaps that is why he started this? To redirect the attention away from his gay tendencies. I guess it worked for the Catholic priests so now you guys are using it. May God have mercy on your souls. At the end you are most DEFINITELY going to need it. It's really gonna suck come Judgment Day when you realize we were right and you were wrong.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by liss1122

And I don't mind you mot agreeing with the gay lifestyle as long as you leave them to it, cus most people are happy as they are and don't want to be preached or told what there doing is wrong cus its not a nice way to approach anyone in my opinion.

Friend, True-Christians™ are commanded by the Lord to show them the error of their ways.

If you are enabling their demonic behavior by not saying anything, you have blood on your hands.

Ezekiel

33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

Heretofore, your opinion does not matter in this instance.

[senator79]

Oh, gee, thanks. Under my name is "Unsaved Trash"? You really are true Christians? WTF. The sad part is that there are actually people who believe your bull. Ignorant stupid fools who keep perpetuating your hate.....sickening

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Originally Posted by senator79

Oh, gee, thanks. Under my name is "Unsaved Trash"? You really are true Christians? WTF. The sad part is that there are actually people who believe your bull. Ignorant stupid fools who keep perpetuating your hate.....sickening

Hello friend, how about starting an introduction thread, in the INTRODUCTION section and telling us about yourself?

[senator79]

How about instead Wash O'Hanley reveals his source in "a high place" on how he knows those players are gay? Come on, Adian Peterson is gay because he wears purple?!?! He plays for the Minnesota Vikings! Their team colors are yellow and PURPLE!!!! So he wears purple off the field? Where? At a press conference to show support for his team? Automatically gay. I wear purple frequently. Apparently that makes me gay. So Carson Palmer is an accurate passer so that means he is gay? Tom Brady is perhaps the most accurate passer in the NFL. Maybe he's gay too. Hey, Wash, why don't you ask his wife, Gisele if he is gay? These are the most unfounded and STUPID arguments I have ever heard. Even a child would say they are dumb. You should be completely ashamed of yourselves. Ray Lewis gay because he has a lot of tackles? That is (was) his position on the team. So that means you are saying every good linebacker in the NFL is gay. I DARE you to say that to Ray Lewis' face. I DARE you to tell Vince Wilfork he is gay. I DARE you to tell DeMarcus Ware he is gay. Go on. Do it.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by liss1122

...If I don't like someone I just turn the other cheek and walk off...

Do you even understand what "turn the other cheek" means? It doesn't mean walk away.

So if someone hits you, you'll just stand there and invite them to do it again? I seriously doubt it.

[senator79]

@Cranky....Downs Syndrome is a lifestyle choice? Please tell me you are crazy and that is your legitimate excuse. That is blasphemous. You can not say otherwise. Why would someone choose that? People are born that way. Go back playing with your kids you have locked in a closet and stop using my oxygen. Oh yeah, to whomever put that I am in bed with my fag boyfriend....I am a married woman.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by senator79

...Downs Syndrome is a lifestyle choice?...That is blasphemous...

The Bible clearly states that if they loved God, they wouldn't be afflicted.

Romans 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."

Why don't you read it before claiming to know what's blasphemous?

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by senator79

Do you even realize how ignorant you sound? You freaks are one step above Westboro.

Westboro are cherry picking liebrals

WE ARE NOTHING LIKE WESTBORO!

Prove to me that Westboro has an ex-gay program, and I'll recant my statement.

Wash O'Hanley looks like a creepy pedophile. Perhaps that is why he started this? To redirect the attention away from his gay tendencies. I guess it worked for the Catholic priests so now you guys are using it. May God have mercy on your souls. At the end you are most DEFINITELY going to need it. It's really gonna suck come Judgment Day when you realize we were right and you were wrong.

Ah, so you're a sick catholic who thinks that tagging out by fiddling a priest and telling how bad you feel is going to get you into heaven.

There's a whole section on why your pagan church is Hell bound.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by senator79

Oh, gee, thanks. Under my name is "Unsaved Trash"? You really are true Christians? WTF.

Welcome to our friendly forums! You can learn why your identification has been revealed as "unsaved scum," as well as many other informative things on THIS thread. If you'd like to share your opinion, kindly provide the Scriptural support for it. Your rights on the forum can be found HERE.

Originally Posted by senator79

The sad part is that there are actually people who believe your bull. Ignorant stupid fools who keep perpetuating your hate.....sickening

You're confused, dear. What is sad, truly sad, is that there are actually people who think that by being [what they consider to be] "good people," they're contributing to humanity in a positive way. Nothing could be further from the Truth. The Truth is, either one is with God and all that is good, or he is with Satan and all that is evil (Matthew 12:30).

Originally Posted by senator79

How about instead Wash O'Hanley reveals his source in "a high place" on how he knows those players are gay? Come on, Adian Peterson is gay because he wears purple?!?! He plays for the Minnesota Vikings! Their team colors are yellow and PURPLE!!!! So he wears purple off the field? Where? At a press conference to show support for his team? Automatically gay. I wear purple frequently. Apparently that makes me gay. So Carson Palmer is an accurate passer so that means he is gay? Tom Brady is perhaps the most accurate passer in the NFL. Maybe he's gay too. Hey, Wash, why don't you ask his wife, Gisele if he is gay? These are the most unfounded and STUPID arguments I have ever heard. Even a child would say they are dumb. You should be completely ashamed of yourselves. Ray Lewis gay because he has a lot of tackles? That is (was) his position on the team. So that means you are saying every good linebacker in the NFL is gay. I DARE you to say that to Ray Lewis' face. I DARE you to tell Vince Wilfork he is gay. I DARE you to tell DeMarcus Ware he is gay. Go on. Do it.

Dear, it appears your frustration is getting the better of you. Your arguments are sophomoric at best, childish more accurately. Mr. O'Hanley is a True Christian™ man and close, personal friend of Jesus Christ Himself. Further, he is confirmed Master Debater. He has never been defeated in a debate, so even if you had kept your cool, it wouldn't have helped your cause in any way. Mr. O'Hanley speaks the God's Honest Truth, and never more than when something is so important, like the threat of homosexuality on an otherwise decent society.

Originally Posted by senator79

@Cranky....Downs Syndrome is a lifestyle choice? Please tell me you are crazy and that is your legitimate excuse. That is blasphemous. You can not say otherwise. Why would someone choose that? People are born that way.

If you would but take the time to read Cranky Old Man's thread, you'll see just how Down Syndrom is a lifestyle choice. His Biblical proof is solid, no qualified theologian could disagree with his argument.

[Pim Pendergast]

Originally Posted by liss1122

You make some good points, and I understand, or am at least gaining more understanding on what makes you tick, I just choose to have my beliefs as well as you have yours.

You choose to have your beliefs? It would be wiser to believe what's true. I believe the Bible because it's true (Ps 33:4). Unfortunately, you can't choose what's true, so I don't see how you can choose what to believe.

And I don't mind you mot agreeing with the gay lifestyle as long as you leave them to it, cus most people are happy as they are and don't want to be preached or told what there doing is wrong cus its not a nice way to approach anyone in my opinion.

The Bible doesn't want us to leave them to it. We have a moral obligation to tell them God hates them. The people who really hate fags are the ones who let them continue in sin. These people are hell-bound.

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

1 Jn 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

If it was me I would let them be gay, but if they wanted to change or get support etc, approach the church and get the guidence they wanted should they decide to be religious.

Other religions are extremely harmful. They lead people into all kinds of senseless, irrational behavior, oppression and mindless violence. True Christians™ are the only people who can help people who want to choose to stop being gay.

I just beleive in equal rights I guess and live and let live, because the world is a lot more of a happy place when people get on, and don't fight.

Equal rights aren't taught in the Bible . The world would be happy, peaceful place if everyone was Christian. All problems in society stem from people trying to live without God because we won't let them.