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01-17-2010, 02:23 AM
Why do you guys just ban everyone instead of helping them? Not very Christian like. I would recommend you read your Bible again.
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01-17-2010, 02:28 AM
Well, that's not a very friendly introduction! I recommend you begin again -- starting with sharing something about yourself. Which church do you belong to?
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01-17-2010, 02:31 AM
Hello Mrs. Rogers
I belong to the Church of God.
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01-17-2010, 02:32 AM
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Why do you guys just ban everyone instead of helping them? Not very Christian like. I would recommend you read your Bible again.
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Can you please cite scripture that says we must accommodate atheists in our own home?
Also, what do YOU think makes a True Christian?
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01-17-2010, 07:20 AM
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Hello Mrs. Rogers
I belong to the Church of God.
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The COG is nothing but a cult. You people aren't even Christians!
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...Church of God followers do NOT believe in simple FAITH in Jesus Christ to be saved; on the contrary, they most definitely demand that BAPTISM be added for one to be saved. I spoke at length recently with a Church of God minister who earned his degree from the Dallas Christian College. Dallas Christian College DOESN'T make it clear at all that they are indeed a Church of Christ college. Why are they deceptive about who they really are? What are they afraid to tell people? Click on their "Our Mission" link and see if Church of Christ is mentioned. It is NOT! By all indications, many Christian people would ignorantly think this was a great college to attend, but it certainly is NOT! It looks innocent enough on the surface doesn't it? That's the disguise they want you to see. I went to visit their website to read their statement of faith; as I suspected, it was vague. But as clever as the person tried to be who devised this statement of faith, it couldn't escape the discernment of a spirit-filled believer, knowledgeable in the Word of God. The following quote is taken from their statement of faith:
"...the Church of the New Testament ought everywhere to be restored with its divine plan of admission: faith, repentance, and baptism..."
Did you read that? Did you see the heresy? Is baptism necessary for admission into the Church? No sir! The very moment you trust Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, asking Him to forgive your sins and come into your heart, you have been born-again and are a member of the body of Christ. Any fool who tells you that you have to be baptized to become a member of the church is LYING to you! Isn't it something how misguided ministers will force you to get baptized to join THEIR church, but God accepts ANY repentant sinner into heaven. You do NOT have to be affiliated with any church, religious group or denomination to go to heaven -You just need Jesus! Jesus Himself proclaimed in John 14:6 that He was the ONLY way to the Father. John 10:9 clearly declares that Jesus Christ is the DOOR by which men and women enter into heaven. John 6:40 teaches that the will of God is to believe upon Christ.
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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01-17-2010, 01:46 PM
I can copy and paste also, very easy. Select text -> Ctrl-C -> Ctrl-V. Not only is this a computer lesson for you but here are the teachings of the Church of God. So what if they have a few simple methods and ceremonies that are different, the teaching and beliefs are the same. What you are saying is that unless someone believes in EXACTLY what you believe they are not Christians.
The following Doctrinal Commitments represent the core beliefs of the denomination as outlined in Scripture.
- Repentance. Mark 1:15; Luke 13:3; Acts 3:19.
- Justification. Romans 5:1; Titus 3:7.
- Regeneration. Titus 3:5.
- New birth. John 3:3; 1 Peter 1:23; 1 John 3:9.
- Sanctification subsequent to justification. Romans 5:2; 1 Corinthians 1:30; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Hebrews 13:12.
- Holiness. Luke 1:75; 1 Thessalonians 4:7; Hebrews 12:14.
- Water baptism. Matthew 28:19; Mark 1:9, 10; John 3:22, 23; Acts 8:36, 38.
- Baptism with the Holy Ghost subsequent to cleansing; the enduement of power for service. Matthew 3:11; Luke 24:49, 53; Acts 1:4-8.
- The speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives utterance as the initial evidence of the baptism in the Holy Ghost. John 15:26; Acts 2:4; 10:44-46; 19:1-7.
- The Church. Exodus 19:5, 6; Psalm 22:22; Matthew 16:13-19; 28:19,20; Acts 1:8; 2:42-47; 7:38; 20:28; Romans 8:14-17: 1 Corinthians 3:16, 17; 12:12-31; 2 Corinthians 6:6-18; Ephesians 2:19-22; 3:9, 21; Philipians 3:10; Hebrews 2:12; 1 Peter 2:9; 1 John 1:6, 7; Revelation 21:2, 9; 22:17.
- Spiritual gifts. 1 Corinthians 12:1, 7, 10, 28, 31; 1 Corinthians 14:1.
- Signs following believers. Mark 16:17-20; Romans 15:18, 19; Hebrews 2:4.
- Fruit of the Spirit. Romans 6:22; Galatians 5:22, 23; Ephesians 5:9; Philippians 1:11.
- Divine healing provided for all in the Atonement. Psalm 103:3; Isaiah 53:4, 5; Matthew 8:17; James 5:14-16; 1 Peter 2:24.
- The Lord's Supper. Luke 22:17-20; 1 Corinthians 11 : 2 3 - 2 6.
- Washing the saints' feet. John 13:4-17; 1 Timothy 5:9, 10.
- Tithing and giving. Genesis 14:18-20; 28:20-22; Malachi 3:10; Luke 11:42 ; 1 Corinthians 16:2 ; 2 Corinthians 9:6-9 ; Hebrews 7:1-21.
- Restitution where possible. Matthew 3:8; Luke 19:8, 9.
- Premillennial second coming of Jesus. First, to resurrect the dead saints and to catch away the living saints to Him in the air. 1 Corinthians 15:52; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; 2 Thessalonians 2:1. Second, to reign on the earth a thousand years. Zechariah 14:4; 1 Thessalonians 4:14; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10; Jude 14, 15; Revelation 5:10; 19:11-21; 20:4-6.
- Resurrection. John 5:28, 29; Acts 24:15; Revelation 20:5, 6.
- Eternal life for the righteous. Matthew 25:46; Luke 18:30; John 10:28; Romans 6:22; 1 John 5:11-13.
- Eternal punishment for the wicked. No liberation nor annihilation. Matthew 25:41-46; Mark 3:29; 2 Thessalonians 1: 8, 9; Revelation 20:10-15; 21:8.
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01-17-2010, 01:53 PM
Nice way to avoid the central points. At least I posted a link to the site I was referring you to, instead of plagiarizing someone else's writing. Which is a federal crime, by the way.
The difference between Landover Baptist Church and you COG cultists is simple: We follow the entire Holy KJV Bible as written. You don't. We worship Jesus, you worship your dead "prophet" Armstrong.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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01-17-2010, 01:59 PM
Oh, sorry that you don't know how to use Google and instead of plagiarizing by posting a link I copy and pasted from information that is very public. You missed an i by the way. Someone of such stature in the Church should know how to spell.
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01-17-2010, 02:56 PM
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The following Doctrinal Commitments represent the core beliefs of the denomination as outlined in Scripture.
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Why do you only follow part of the Holy Bible and not all of it? Do you think God made the rest of it just to fill space?
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Not very Christian like.
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What part of your own behavior is Christian like? You are just a rude idiot.
Freedom means voting for Donald Trump!
To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
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01-17-2010, 03:06 PM
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Why do you only follow part of the Holy Bible and not all of it? Do you think God made the rest of it just to fill space?
I said they were the core beliefs. It means foundation, basic part, etc. I'm sure you get the idea now.
What part of your own behavior is Christian like? You are just a rude idiot.
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Just trying to follow Landover Members lead and see what it is like. Doesn't feel very Christian like.
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01-17-2010, 03:14 PM
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I said they were the core beliefs. It means foundation, basic part, etc. I'm sure you get the idea now.
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It doesn't work that way. We cannot pick and choose what parts of the Holy Bible are more or less important. The Bible is not a McDonald's menu. The entire Bible is important, because all of it is the word of our LORD.
You seem sincere in your wish to become a Christian though so there is still hope for your salvation. So stop listening to false prophets and start to read the entire Bible from cover to cover. And pray to our Savior Jesus Christ for forgiveness.
Freedom means voting for Donald Trump!
To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
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01-17-2010, 03:16 PM
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Oh, sorry that you don't know how to use Google (contradicts the fact that he found information on your "Church" through Google - also childish) and instead of plagiarizing by posting a link (posting a link is NOT plagiarism because the source is quite obviously credited) I copy and pasted (because making your own argument is too hard) from information that is very public. You missed an i by the way. Someone of such stature in the Church should know how to spell (personal attack - childish).
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Well, based on this, we know the following:
- It is normal for COG members to falsely accuse Christians of plagiarism (lie + personal attack)
- COG members cannot debate their points rationally, but resort to personal attacks (major fallacy)
- COG members think they know better than God on the Bible (majorblasphemy)
- COG members tell actual Christians that they should disobey God and use tear their Bibles in half (major blasphemy)
- COG members are drones whose only remotely intelligent points are copy/pasted (God gave us brains for a reason)
Thank you again for reminding us why True Christians must continue spreading the Word -- the COMPLETE Word -- of God.
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Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.
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01-17-2010, 03:21 PM
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Oh, sorry that you don't know how to use Google (contradicts the fact that he found information on your "Church" through Google - also childish) and instead of plagiarizing by posting a link (posting a link is NOT plagiarism because the source is quite obviously credited) I copy and pasted (because making your own argument is too hard) from information that is very public. You missed an i by the way. Someone of such stature in the Church should know how to spell (personal attack - childish).
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Oh, I must have been misunderstanding then. I didn't think we were supposed to be making arguments, I thought we were supposed to be following the Word of God.
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01-17-2010, 04:07 PM
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Oh, I must have been misunderstanding then. I didn't think we were supposed to be making arguments, I thought we were supposed to be following the Word of God.
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Ah, but that's where you've been taught wrong. When false Christians " follow the Word of God, don't think for yourself", they actually mean that you should follow their word. This of course gives ammo to atheists claiming that Christians cannot or may not think for themselves.
Thus: following the Word of God and making rational and logical arguments are not mutually exclusive.
This makes a lot of sense. We learn more and more every day about how logical and consistent the rules are that drive the mechanics of the universe. It is an inescapable conclusion, even for an atheist, that God is logical and consistent. The Bible, when interpreted correctly, is logical and consistent and easy to defend rationally against those who assault its meaning.
Now your next question is " what is the correct interpretation then?" -- to that, our answer is: there is no correct interpretation, no reading between the lines or injecting your own opinion. There are only the exact words, the exact phrases and exact passages. They speak for themselves. We do not filter the word of God into something we like.
In short: we read the lines, not between the lines.
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Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.
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01-17-2010, 06:10 PM
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Ah, but that's where you've been taught wrong. When false Christians "follow the Word of God, don't think for yourself", they actually mean that you should follow their word. This of course gives ammo to atheists claiming that Christians cannot or may not think for themselves.
Thus: following the Word of God and making rational and logical arguments are not mutually exclusive.
This makes a lot of sense. We learn more and more every day about how logical and consistent the rules are that drive the mechanics of the universe. It is an inescapable conclusion, even for an atheist, that God is logical and consistent. The Bible, when interpreted correctly, is logical and consistent and easy to defend rationally against those who assault its meaning.
Now your next question is "what is the correct interpretation then?" -- to that, our answer is: there is no correct interpretation, no reading between the lines or injecting your own opinion. There are no correct interpretation, no reading between the lines or injecting your own opinion. We do not filter the word of God into something we like.
In short: we read the lines, not between the lines.
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Oh, so we are supposed to argue then, even if it is regarding the Word of God. You 'rebuttal' was contradictory within itself. First you say we are supposed to think for ourselves and then you say there is "no correct interpretation, no reading between the lines or injecting your own opinion" and "no correct interpretation, no reading between the lines or injecting your own opinion". Which is it then, think or not think?
P.S. I am sympathetic to typing mistakes but a true Christian would know that 'W' is capitalized in Word of God. You should be more careful. I'm sure God will forgive you for your sin.
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Re: Hello -
01-17-2010, 07:41 PM
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Which is it then, think or not think?
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Let me see if I can make this more clear to you:
Let's say you have a friend, Jimbo, who says " I want you to buy be a hamburger".
Now you say " ah, I think for myself" so you come back with with a chocolate bar. Then Jimbo asks why you didn't get him a hamburger and you reply that you have interpreted his words to mean something differently... and that you were in the mood for a chocolate bar.
That is what false Christians do. It's not a matter of thinking, but a matter of not thinking when you twist the words of God into something you want to hear.
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Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.
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01-17-2010, 08:00 PM
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Let me see if I can make this more clear to you:
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If you want to make it clear say something that is not contradictory.
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Let's say you have a friend, Jimbo, who says "I want you to buy be a hamburger".
Now you say "ah, I think for myself" so you come back with with a chocolate bar. Then Jimbo asks why you didn't get him a hamburger and you reply that you have interpreted his words to mean something differently... and that you were in the mood for a chocolate bar.
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Why are you listening to your friends and not the Word of God?
If I were to say that I would say "Nah" as in no, not "ah" as in I was just enlightened.
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That is what false Christians do. It's not a matter of thinking, but a matter of not thinking when you twist the words of God into something you want to hear.
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How could I not be thinking and twist words at the same time, not possible? Please make up your mind if you want to be clear and make me understand. Good thing you are not a Pastor or you would have the entire congregation confused.
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