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Default The Atomic Foundations of Science Debunked - 01-15-2008, 05:37 PM

We know that dinosaurs(i.e. Behemoths, Job 40:15-18) existed alongside mankind. The Allied Atheist Agenda invented the concept of carbon dating as a direct attack against morality, order, and justice. We can never let ourselves forget that atheist have no morals and guiltlessly engage in rapes, murders, theft, etc. in the name of "free thought".

Atheist claim that there are atoms. Hydrogen, the simplest and most basic atom, is supposedly made up of one electron and one proton. All other atoms are supposedly just hydrogens added together. Perhaps you've heard of water being referred to as H2O. This represents one hydrogen atom and two oxygen atoms. For argument's sake we'll just say an oxygen atom is two hydrogens placed together; thus two protons and two electrons.

Here is the problem: Given what we know about atoms, that they are supposedly all made up of the same particles, protons and electrons(the occasional neutron), it strikes any keen intellect as absurd to state that completely different forms of matter can form out of the same parts. Water and Iron are made of the same material according to atheists.
That is akin to stating that if you put a basketball and a marble together it forms hydrogen, but if you place two basketballs and two marbles together you get oxygen. And to top it all off if you place five basketballs and five marble together you get water. But any rational person can clearly see that they are all still basketballs and marbles no matter how many of them you have or how they are arranged.

On this basis alone one can completely rule out the very possibility of carbon dating. The entire concept of atoms, much less carbon dating, is evidently a hoax designed by atheists to promote homosexuality, lawlessness, and the collapse of civilization.
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Default Re: The Atomic Foundations of Science Debunked - 01-15-2008, 06:44 PM

Excellent work, Joshua. You cut those atheist myths to the quick and showed how ridiculous atomism really is. Those jokers will believe anything, no matter how ludicrous, except for the Truth of the Bible.

Bless you, Brother.

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Default Re: The Atomic Foundations of Science Debunked - 01-15-2008, 07:27 PM

I’m with Pastor Billy-Reuben on this. Your’ fair and balanced article Josuha unmasks the fallacy of naturalistic reasoning. Jesus knows how much damage this myth of radioactivity has done. For instance radioactivity is used to justify how the earth can be so hot after the ridiculous age the secularist give it; magic rocks in the earth make it hot. Radiation is all very convenient for the atheists since you can only detect it with instruments they came up with! The whole Darwinist house of cards is based on radiation.



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Default Re: The Atomic Foundations of Science Debunked - 01-19-2008, 05:04 AM

Mr. Brooks, your brilliant dissection of the very foundations of "science" has only whet my appetite for learning! One taste of your swollen intellect has left me drooling for more . . . Truly, a mind IS a terrible thing to waste!

What are your thoughts on electricity?
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Default Re: The Atomic Foundations of Science Debunked - 01-19-2008, 06:02 PM

In 1905, Albert Einstein wrote "On the Movement of Small Particles...", his analysis of Brownian Motion, and developed a hypothetical mathematical model of molecule theory. The same year, the first, unsuccessful, Russian Revolution broke out. Coincidence? I think not.


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Default Re: The Atomic Foundations of Science Debunked - 01-20-2008, 07:14 PM

That doesn't make any sense.

"The Allied Atheist Agenda invented the concept of carbon dating as a direct attack against morality, order, and justice. We can never let ourselves forget that atheist have no morals and guiltlessly engage in rapes, murders, theft, etc. in the name of "free thought"."

Carbon dating was not invented. Are you aware of the concepts of carbon dating? Well, isotopes of carbon are radioactive, and we can measure the rate of radioactive decay to determine the age of something. Carbon dating SUPPORTS your opinions! Don't dispute it! Carbon dating can only date things up to thousands of years, not millions as people think. Carbon dating is responsible for proving how old many religious documents are and help Christians sort out fact from fake documents! What you want to dispute, as someone with your opinions is other dating methods, such as lead isotope dating. Most atheists have morals, and do not freely go around raping and murdering people. Only a few people do that, and let us not forget, some Christians rape and murder to.

"Atheist claim that there are atoms. Hydrogen, the simplest and most basic atom, is supposedly made up of one electron and one proton. All other atoms are supposedly just hydrogens added together. Perhaps you've heard of water being referred to as H2O. This represents one hydrogen atom and two oxygen atoms. For argument's sake we'll just say an oxygen atom is two hydrogens placed together; thus two protons and two electrons."

Atheists are the majority of humanity, Christians or otherwise, believe that there are atoms. Seeing is believing, and we can see atoms! Not in the traditional sense, perhaps, but we can. What is wrong with atomic theory in terms of Christianity? It doesn't go against any Biblical principles!
Two hydrogens = H2, not water. Hydrogen has an Ar of 1, oxygen has an Ar of 16. Last time I checked, 1+1 = 2, not 18, which is the Mr of water. The above comment you made is a scientific shambles, well, actually, just a shambles generally.
Lets take a quick look at the Periodic Table. Oxygen is in group six. To have a complete electron shell oxygen wants to bond with two more electrons to make 8 (a complete election shell). Hydrogen is in group one, and has one electron, two hydrogens would make up the difference. Similary, NaCl, or table salt. Na (sodium) is in group 1 so it wants to LOOSE an electron to give it 8 outer electrons (on another electron shell). Cl (Chlorine) is in group 7, and wants one electron. So if Na donates an electron to Cl you get full electron shells on both, and they ionically bond.

Thats it in a nutshell...There is a bit more than that in reality, though.

"Here is the problem: Given what we know about atoms, that they are supposedly all made up of the same particles, protons and electrons(the occasional neutron), it strikes any keen intellect as absurd to state that completely different forms of matter can form out of the same parts. Water and Iron are made of the same material according to atheists.
That is akin to stating that if you put a basketball and a marble together it forms hydrogen, but if you place two basketballs and two marbles together you get oxygen. And to top it all off if you place five basketballs and five marble together you get water. But any rational person can clearly see that they are all still basketballs and marbles no matter how many of them you have or how they are arranged."

The occasional neutron? No no no...Neutrons are present in every element except hydrogen. Neutrons are fundamental and very important. Now, there is more to it than that. We are made up of quarks, which are made up of smaller particles yet, such as Z-particles. Anyway, thats irrelevent. Chemistry is the transfer of electrons, thus creating a chemical reaction to create new compounds. All elements want a complete electron shell, so loose or gain electrons to achieve this. This is why we get water and other compounds. Without going on for a long time its hard to demonstrate this. Its easier to think about it in terms of bonds, not particles. A compound called epoxyethane has very strained bonds between carbon and oxygen, and thus is very reactive because the bonds break. This can be demonstrated by using models.
There is a distinct difference between basketballs and atomic particles. Atomic particles have charges, which dictates how they will react. Sodium chloride (table salt) has a very high melting temperature because of strong ionic bonds, formed by a +1 charge (on sodium) and a -1 charge (on chlorine). This obviously means they are attracted to each other in exactly the same way magnets are attracted to each other. So we need to put in a lot of energy to break the bonds.

On this basis alone one can completely rule out the very possibility of carbon dating. The entire concept of atoms, much less carbon dating, is evidently a hoax designed by atheists to promote homosexuality, lawlessness, and the collapse of civilization.

This makes no sense at all. Carbon dating is due to radioactive decay...Again, this can be observed, easily, as the radioactive decay of uranium and plutonium provides energy for nuclear reactors. We can measure the ratio between carbon 13 and carbon 12 and thus determine how much the carbon has decayed to determine the age of something. Carbon dating does not undermine anything, as I said previously, its supportive of Creation science as it only gives ages of thousands of years, not millions! Carbon dating does not promote homosexuality or anything bad! Its just a useful technique and is crucial to our knowledge of our own religion!
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Mr. Brooks, your brilliant dissection of the very foundations of "science" has only whet my appetite for learning! One taste of your swollen intellect has left me drooling for more . . . Truly, a mind IS a terrible thing to waste!

What are your thoughts on electricity?
I am very please that my counter argument to the fallacy of atomic theory watered your appetite for learning, Jenny. Although thinking is a male orientated field it is refreshing to see a woman eager to learn in silence with all due humility just as Jesus teaches us in His Holy Word. I don't think we've meet. I've been so busy with college and my duties at the Creation Science Museum that I haven't had time to introduce myself to any of the new faces in Freehold. I would be glad to share my wide breath of knowledge and throbbing enthusiaism for creation physics with you.

OK, Electricity.

The Atheist Claim: The Allied Atheist Agenda would like us to believe that opposites attract. They claim that protons(one component of a so-called atom) carry a positive charge and electrons(another component of a so-called atom) carry a negative charge. The ultimate power source and origin of said "charged energy" is conviently left out by the atheist. They claim that if you load one end of a circuit with positrons(positive charged stuff) and then load the other end with negatrons, that the negatrons will flock to the positrons. The flow of electrons is referred to as electricity.

The Problem: Seeing that atheist claim that all matter is composed of atoms, which we previous simplified to hydrogen, which is broken down further in electron-proton...

1.) Wouldn't a load of positrons be non-matter without an electron to make it a complete hydrogen?
2.) If it already has electrons and is matter, then why would it need to draw more electrons?
3.) Wouldn't this positronic stuff suck the electrons out of the very circuit board parts immediately surrounding it instead of a bunch of electrons way on the other side of the circuit?

Let's face facts here. At some point the positrons are gonna get enough electrons to stop being a positron. Then what? Atheist say this is how a battery runs out of juice. Fair enough. But what about objects that don't use batteries? They counter with the concept of "earth ground". But even the earth in all its 6,000 years is gonna eventual get enough electrons to loss its positive disposition. And if it's so positive why isn't it sucking the electrons out of everything on the surface? Why isn't there a huge electrical spark betweeb earth and the moon? If the moon is also positively charged then why isn't it getting flung away since like pushes away like? Are talking about electricity here or magnets? Make up your mind secular science!

The Test: I placed a battery on the ground with the negative side toouching the earth. It did not get drained of usefulness. Nothing magically went to this supposed "earth ground". And with that yet another secular myth is laid to rest.

The Truth: God makes the lighting and the lightning is electricity. It goes where He wants it to go and powers what He wants it to power. Who are we, as mere mortals, to possibly understand His mysteries? God controls it just like you controls the wind, the oceans, and the suns light. And through His grace we also get power from windmill, dams, and solar panels. Clearly "power" does not equal electrons so much as it equals GOD. GLORY!!!
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