[Miss Cassandra]

Originally Posted by Serenity-Millennium

That's not very nice

I'm sorry. I just though that you got me wrong on some point, because you seemed so unfriendly in your last posts. That's why I thought something was wrong. I'm sorry for my harsh tone in my last post, sometimes my emotions get the better of me. I really think you are a good person, and I don't want to hurt your feelings in any way.

You completely misunderstand me. I'm not trying to convert you at all. Why should I? You will be saved anyway. I was merely explaining why I believe what I do.

Then I misunderstood you. I'm sorry. It's just that I've learned to be wary of Bible verses. I don't believe that Jesus or God ever existed, so I don't care very much about the stories about them.

That's not fair. I never made fun of your religion. You are very judgmental.

You called my religion ridiculous, Serenity. Fur me, that counts as judging my religion and making fun of it. That's why I got angry at you, because I thought you weren't honest by doing so.

Jesus doesn't condemn anyone, what are you talking about?

Then why is the bible filled with texts like this:

John 5:26-29:
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

It is clear Jesus judges people here. I don't think that's a bad thing, as I myself believe the judgment of the Mother Goddess decides whether a person is reincarnated or enters the Otherworld. As long as the judgment is righteous, I don't care.

I thought you were nice and accepting, but apparently you are not. I'll pray that you open your heart to love and joy.

How can you possibly say such a thing, Serenity? Aren't you judging me right now?

Anyway, I don't believe in Jesus, and I am glad I don't.
Being nice and accepting does not mean accepting whatever people tell you. If you would do that, you would just be a computer, ready to be programmed by whatever person happens to walk by.
And let me tell you, I know a lot of love and joy since I was induced into The Craft. It's so great to be guided by the Wisdom of the Mother Goddess!

I'm not proselytizing, you need to calm down.

I'm sorry, I'm a very impulsive person. I misunderstood your intentions, and I'm glad you've cleared that up for me!

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth ends up with a world of blind people who can't eat steak! The concentration camp survivors should show their love and forgiveness to their tormentors, as Jesus taught.

Did you really tell that to those people?

Oh, I hate to say anything rude about anyone, so I won't say anything about the Landover church...

Well said!

I'm sorry, but the joy of Christ abounds in my heart so much, I find it hard to stop.

Okay, I'll keep that in mind. I hope you stick along for a while on these forums, it's great to talk with you!

[Miss Cassandra]

Originally Posted by Serenity-Millennium

Oh, you shouldn't be so harsh with him. He'll learn the truth someday, when we're all singing kumbya in the great campground in the sky

You are right, Serenity. My impulsive nature again. I know him personally, and he actually is a really nice guy, but when his christianity plays up, he keeps annoying me.

I must say, the thought of Jimmy, you and me singing kumbya together at a campfire in heaven makes me laugh out loud. It would be nice if it were possible, of course...

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

Who is 'Jamie'? Are you drinking that wiccan wine again? Last time you tipped a bit much you were found running naked in streets playing with the speed bumps.

1. Wearing a dress that shows your knees sometimes when you walk doesn't count as "naked" in any part of the world outside of Freehold.
2. I'm sorry, I forgot that you preferred "Jimmy."

[James Hutchins]

Missy, I am your elder and as such, deserve some modicum of respect. You may call me Mr. Hutchins.

[Serenity-Millennium]

Originally Posted by Miss Cassandra

I'm sorry. I just though that you got me wrong on some point, because you seemed so unfriendly in your last posts. That's why I thought something was wrong. I'm sorry for my harsh tone in my last post, sometimes my emotions get the better of me. I really think you are a good person, and I don't want to hurt your feelings in any way.

I love you, sister!

Then I misunderstood you. I'm sorry. It's just that I've learned to be wary of Bible verses. I don't believe that Jesus or God ever existed, so I don't care very much about the stories about them.

It's alright, Jesus still loves you!

You called my religion ridiculous, Serenity.

I never said your religion is ridiculous. I said I respect all beliefs, even if they sounded ridiculous to me. All religions are right.

Fur me

Fur is murder! And I don't have enough money to buy you one.

Then why is the bible filled with texts like this:

John 5:26-29:
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Damnation is temporary. Jesus loves everyone.

It is clear Jesus judges people here. I don't think that's a bad thing, as I myself believe the judgment of the Mother Goddess decides whether a person is reincarnated or enters the Otherworld. As long as the judgment is righteous, I don't care.

Judge not!

How can you possibly say such a thing, Serenity? Aren't you judging me right now?

Perhaps I am, I have to pray

Anyway, I don't believe in Jesus, and I am glad I don't.
Being nice and accepting does not mean accepting whatever people tell you. If you would do that, you would just be a computer, ready to be programmed by whatever person happens to walk by.
And let me tell you, I know a lot of love and joy since I was induced into The Craft. It's so great to be guided by the Wisdom of the Mother Goddess!

Amen. And I agree you can call God mother, after all, God is both a man and a woman.

Did you really tell that to those people?

No, I didn't. I never met them. If I did, of course I would tell them that. I have a duty to spread the Good News.

Okay, I'll keep that in mind. I hope you stick along for a while on these forums, it's great to talk with you!

I'll try, but these adorable Landoverians tend to get angry at me every once in a while for reasons I don't understand. God bless them.

[Miss Cassandra]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

Missy, I am your elder and as such, deserve some modicum of respect. You may call me Mr. Hutchins.

I got that Jimmy Mr. Hutchins.

[Miss Cassandra]

Originally Posted by Serenity-Millennium

I love you, sister!

Thank you for that!

I never said your religion is ridiculous. I said I respect all beliefs, even if they sounded ridiculous to me. All religions are right.

I'm sorry, but I'm missing the undoubtedly subtle difference there. I'll just take it that you didn't mean to insult me.

Fur is murder! And I don't have enough money to buy you one.

Damnation is temporary. Jesus loves everyone.

If that were true, than Jesus would still be judging people, wouldn't he? He just wouldn't condemn them to eternal damnation, but temporary (though I know the bible is very clear about it being eternal. How can you say it isn't?)

Perhaps I am, I have to pray

I'm glad you see my point. I don't really care about being judged, by the way, you might say I'm used to it.

Amen. And I agree you can call God mother, after all, God is both a man and a woman.

I believe that as well. The Mother Goddess forms a dualistic Godhead with the Horned Hunter.

No, I didn't. I never met them. If I did, of course I would tell them that. I have a duty to spread the Good News.

Aren't you afraid they might misunderstand you or take offense? I would do so in their place, I think.

I'll try, but these adorable Landoverians tend to get angry at me every once in a while for reasons I don't understand. God bless them.

Yeah, they tend to do that, don't they? However, being raised in their culture, I have learned to predict their behaviour, as they always do what the bible tells them.

[Serenity-Millennium]

Originally Posted by Miss Cassandra

Thank you for that!

I'm sorry, but I'm missing the undoubtedly subtle difference there. I'll just take it that you didn't mean to insult me.

Well of course not! Only lowlife scumbags resort to insulting people.

Oh, please don't laugh. I think fur is a very serious issue and very cruel to animals.

If that were true, than Jesus would still be judging people, wouldn't he? He just wouldn't condemn them to eternal damnation, but temporary (though I know the bible is very clear about it being eternal. How can you say it isn't?)

Oh, it isn't clear at all. I went through a debate with this with a sweet young boy on here, very persistent. He made some arguments about hell being forever, but they weren't very good. Hopefully when he's a bit older he'll let go of ignorance and seek real knowledge.

I believe that as well. The Mother Goddess forms a dualistic Godhead with the Horned Hunter.

Hmm, I have a bit of a problem imagining God as a hunter. I would imagine God is a vegetarian. But I respect your right to believe it.

Aren't you afraid they might misunderstand you or take offense? I would do so in their place, I think.

There is no fear in God If they misunderstand, so be it. I am blessed by their persecution.

Yeah, they tend to do that, don't they? However, being raised in their culture, I have learned to predict their behaviour, as they always do what the bible tells them.

Odd, because I always try do what the Bible says, and I don't act anything like these people...

[True Disciple]

Originally Posted by Serenity-Millennium

Oh, it isn't clear at all. I went through a debate with this with a sweet young boy on here, very persistent. He made some arguments about hell being forever, but they weren't very good. Hopefully when he's a bit older he'll let go of ignorance and seek real knowledge.

My goodness, mr. Millennium! Do you really think anyone is fooled by your blasphemic teachings here?

For little Cassie here, and other interested people of course, here is the link to my discussion with mr. Millennium, which he for some reason didn't post. Please decide for yourself whether mr. Millennium is right on this or not.

A short recap:

The discussion was about the Greek word aionion, which was used frequently in the Bible and was translated with "eternal" in the KJV. Mr. Millennium's viewpoint was that that was wrong, because this word could mean "until the eons/eonian times," which would denote something which had an ending. So it could mean either eternal or temporal.

However, I've showed that in each and every case where this word was used as an adjective (aside from punishment), it is applied to something which was generally considered to be eternal, like God, God's Reign and the Afterlife. Therefore, the Biblical writers apparently used this word to mean "eternal" as well in the case of punishment.

Mr. Millennium, you still have to rebuke this point. If you want to, please do it in the original thread. If you choose not to, just accept that you are wrong about this, and stop whining.

[Miss Cassandra]

Originally Posted by Serenity-Millennium

Well of course not! Only lowlife scumbags resort to insulting people.

I like that spirit, Serenity!

Oh, please don't laugh. I think fur is a very serious issue and very cruel to animals.

I was laughing about your joke, Serenity. I agree with you on the issue of fur, it is evil and despicable to kill an animal for such a stupid reason!

Oh, it isn't clear at all. I went through a debate with this with a sweet young boy on here, very persistent. He made some arguments about hell being forever, but they weren't very good. Hopefully when he's a bit older he'll let go of ignorance and seek real knowledge.

Yes, I know him, he's posted a link to this discussion. If it's interesting, I will read it. I expect that he's polluted the place all over with his bullshit, of course, he seems to be incapable of compassion, love, independant thought, reason or logic. One of those annoying people who can be very intelligent and very stupid at the same time.

Hmm, I have a bit of a problem imagining God as a hunter. I would imagine God is a vegetarian. But I respect your right to believe it.

Well, I'm a vegetarian as well, of course, but that's mainly to make a statement against the cruel and unnatural treatment of animals.
In principle hunting isn't evil, as it is the natural way of all animals to eat each other, and in nature there always is a balance between predator and prey. However, humanity has upset this balance and ravaged the natural order.

There is no fear in God If they misunderstand, so be it. I am blessed by their persecution.

Okay...you don't mind that you might hurt these people very deeply when you say that? Wouldn't it be more considerate and loving to, well, spare the feelings of these traumatized people a little?

Odd, because I always try do what the Bible says, and I don't act anything like these people...

I think that's because you can make the bible support any possible viewpoint you have, just by selecting the right verses.

Originally Posted by True Disciple

For little Cassie here, and other interested people of course, here is the link to my discussion with mr. Millennium, which he for some reason didn't post. Please decide for yourself whether mr. Millennium is right on this or not.

I will, you blabbering retard. Do you really think you can be a match to Serenity in any debate?

[Gunna_B_Saved]

i would pray for you if i wernt so certain youre going to burn in hells eternal fires for your sacrilegious murderous beliefs.
the proof in scripture that G-d hates abortion is so blatant. for starters- Jesus was born as a baby! what would have happened if joseph (middle eastern S.O.B ) had forced poor Mary to have an abortion?.. jesus never would have died on the cross for your sins (GLORY!!) and you would be double damned you damned liberal nutcase. In this day and age we'll never see a second coming because G-d is too afraid to send his only son back to earth just to be killed in the womb...where he would be most vulnerale in to the devils abortion powers.

It pains me to support them chathliks...G-d I hate them.. but this might help you save some babies today. rosaryoftheunborn.com
PRAISE JESUS!

[No Secrets Victoria]

In this day and age we'll never see a second coming because G-d is too afraid to send his only son back to earth just to be killed in the womb

That's blasphemy

Where in the King James Bible does it say that GOD is ever afraid?
Remember, if it's not in the Bible, it's not true.

[Serenity-Millennium]

Originally Posted by True Disciple

My goodness, mr. Millennium! Do you really think anyone is fooled by your blasphemic teachings here?

For little Cassie here, and other interested people of course, here is the link to my discussion with mr. Millennium, which he for some reason didn't post. Please decide for yourself whether mr. Millennium is right on this or not.

A short recap:

The discussion was about the Greek word aionion, which was used frequently in the Bible and was translated with "eternal" in the KJV. Mr. Millennium's viewpoint was that that was wrong, because this word could mean "until the eons/eonian times," which would denote something which had an ending. So it could mean either eternal or temporal.

However, I've showed that in each and every case where this word was used as an adjective (aside from punishment), it is applied to something which was generally considered to be eternal, like God, God's Reign and the Afterlife. Therefore, the Biblical writers apparently used this word to mean "eternal" as well in the case of punishment.

Mr. Millennium, you still have to rebuke this point. If you want to, please do it in the original thread. If you choose not to, just accept that you are wrong about this, and stop whining.

Oh, my precious brother of Christ, relax. Why do you want to start all of this again? There's no shame - so you lost a debate. We all do sometimes. Jesus still loves you!

[Serenity-Millennium]

Originally Posted by Miss Cassandra

I was laughing about your joke, Serenity. I agree with you on the issue of fur, it is evil and despicable to kill an animal for such a stupid reason!

It makes me and Jesus cry

Yes, I know him, he's posted a link to this discussion. If it's interesting, I will read it. I expect that he's polluted the place all over with his bullshit, of course, he seems to be incapable of compassion, love, independant thought, reason or logic. One of those annoying people who can be very intelligent and very stupid at the same time.

Oh, that's very rude language! He deserves much more than that, miss. Much more indeed.

Okay...you don't mind that you might hurt these people very deeply when you say that? Wouldn't it be more considerate and loving to, well, spare the feelings of these traumatized people a little?

No, not at all.

John 8: 31-32Then Jesus turned to the Jews who had claimed to believe in him. "If you stick with this, living out what I tell you, you are my disciples for sure. Then you will experience for yourselves the truth, and the truth will free you."

Exodus 20:16 No lies about your neighbor.

I think that's because you can make the bible support any possible viewpoint you have, just by selecting the right verses.

I seriously disagree, but I do respect your right to believe that...

I will, you blabbering retard. Do you really think you can be a match to Serenity in any debate?

Oh please, do not quarrel on my account

[True Disciple]

Originally Posted by Gunna_B_Saved

i would pray for you if i wernt so certain youre going to burn in hells eternal fires for your sacrilegious murderous beliefs.
the proof in scripture that G-d hates abortion is so blatant. for starters- Jesus was born as a baby! what would have happened if joseph (middle eastern S.O.B ) had forced poor Mary to have an abortion?.. jesus never would have died on the cross for your sins (GLORY!!) and you would be double damned you damned liberal nutcase. In this day and age we'll never see a second coming because G-d is too afraid to send his only son back to earth just to be killed in the womb...where he would be most vulnerale in to the devils abortion powers.

It pains me to support them chathliks...G-d I hate them.. but this might help you save some babies today. rosaryoftheunborn.com
PRAISE JESUS!

God is not afraid fo course, Sister Victoria is right about that. But aside from that, you are right, abortion is is a terrible thing to do. Mr. Millennium has some guts advocating his baby-murdering ambitions on a decent True Christian™ Forum like this.

Look here for more information about the American Holocaust!

Originally Posted by Serenity-Millennium

Oh, my precious brother of Christ, relax. Why do you want to start all of this again? There's no shame - so you lost a debate. We all do sometimes. Jesus still loves you!

I don't need to start it over again, mr. Millennium, but I just want everyone to be able to look for themselves at our discussion. I just repeated my main point, which you never rebuked. It's really funny how you think to win debates just by shouting: "I've won!"

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Gunna_B_Saved

and you would be double damned you damned liberal nutcase

It's nice to see there is still hope for our youth.

[Serenity-Millennium]

Originally Posted by True Disciple

I don't need to start it over again, mr. Millennium, but I just want everyone to be able to look for themselves at our discussion. I just repeated my main point, which you never rebuked. It's really funny how you think to win debates just by shouting: "I've won!"

It's quite alright, Jesus told me I am blessed by your persecution I defeated all your arguments, and I never shouted "I've won". You did that. But I won't judge you. Right or wrong, you are still a beautiful child of God.

[True Disciple]

Originally Posted by Serenity-Millennium

It's quite alright, Jesus told me I am blessed by your persecution I defeated all your arguments, and I never shouted "I've won". You did that. But I won't judge you. Right or wrong, you are still a beautiful child of God.

I really like the self-contradiction in your post, friend! Keep making us laugh, you're amazing!

In the meantime, could you please give an example of the word aionion used as an adjective, and applied to anything else than God, God's reign, the Afterlife and punishment? Or point out when you did so before?

[Serenity-Millennium]

Originally Posted by True Disciple

I really like the self-contradiction in your post, friend! Keep making us laugh, you're amazing!

In the meantime, could you please give an example of the word aionion used as an adjective, and applied to anything else than God, God's reign, the Afterlife and punishment? Or point out when you did so before?

Honestly young man, nobody likes a sore loser. Don't worry, nobody can possibly think less of you than they already did because of this

[True Disciple]

Originally Posted by Serenity-Millennium

Honestly young man, nobody likes a sore loser. Don't worry, nobody can possibly think less of you than they already did because of this

Nobody? Are you saying you think Jesus doesn't like me? I thought your ideology taught Jesus liked everyone!

And your scorn doesn't matter to me, I'm used to being persecuted. That proves I'm right! Of course, your refusal to address the aionion issue already proved my point, so this was redundant. But thanks nevertheless!

[Serenity-Millennium]

Originally Posted by True Disciple

Nobody? Are you saying you think Jesus doesn't like me? I thought your ideology taught Jesus liked everyone!

Huh? How did I say Jesus doesn't like you? I said everyone still likes you just the same as before, whether you are right or not (btw- Jesus LOVES you! )

And your scorn doesn't matter to me, I'm used to being persecuted. That proves I'm right! Of course, your refusal to address the aionion issue already proved my point, so this was redundant

Well, I thought I pretty thoroughly explained the issue in the other thread, but you chose not to read my posts and just say they were wrong I want to drop it because I don't think God wants us involved in endless arguments:

Matthew 7: 6"Don't be flip with the sacred. Banter and silliness give no honor to God. Don't reduce holy mysteries to slogans. In trying to be relevant, you're only being cute and inviting sacrilege.

Colossians 4: 5-6Use your heads as you live and work among outsiders. Don't miss a trick. Make the most of every opportunity. Be gracious in your speech. The goal is to bring out the best in others in a conversation, not put them down, not cut them out.



2 Timothy 2: 22-26Run away from infantile indulgence. Run after mature righteousness—faith, love, peace—joining those who are in honest and serious prayer before God. Refuse to get involved in inane discussions; they always end up in fights. God's servant must not be argumentative, but a gentle listener and a teacher who keeps cool, working firmly but patiently with those who refuse to obey. You never know how or when God might sober them up with a change of heart and a turning to the truth, enabling them to escape the Devil's trap, where they are caught and held captive, forced to run his errands.

But thanks nevertheless!

I don't believe I am persecuting you, but you do, so you're welcome.