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False Christians Remove All Traces of God From Services -
04-22-2007, 11:56 PM
You know Brothers and sisters, from the way these "feelgood" false Christians come storming into our Godly forum, pointing fingers and admonishing us for following the ENTIRE Bible, why you'd think they had a close personal relationship with the Lord. To hear THEM tell it that is. Well take a look at THIS. It will bring us a righteous rage in all True Christians.
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‘Lord’ is fading at some churches
God has no gender. And the Lord? There’s not much Lord in this church service.
At Tucson’s largest Episcopal church, St. Philip’s in the Hills, the creators of an alternative worship service called Come & See are bucking tradition by rewriting what have become prescribed ways of worship.
For the faithful, that means God isn’t referred to as “him,” and references to “the Lord” are rare.
“Lord” has become a loaded word conveying hierarchical power over things, “which in what we have recorded in our sacred texts, is not who Jesus understood himself to be,” St. Philip’s associate rector Susan Anderson-Smith said.
“The way our service reads, the theology is that God is love, period,” St. Philip’s deacon Thomas Lindell added. “Our service has done everything it can to get rid of power imagery. We do not pray as though we expect the big guy in the sky to come and fix everything.”
St. Philip’s isn’t the only local church to re-examine its language. Other local religious leaders already are eschewing the use of “Lord” for similar reasons.
First Congregational United Church of Christ in Midtown even has a different name for The Lord’s Prayer. They call it “The Prayer of Our Creator.”
“We do still use the word ‘Lord’ on occasion, but we are suspicious of it,” First Congregational pastor Briget Nicholson said. “Inclusive language is important. Our United Church of Christ hymnal does have hymns that will say ‘Father’ and ‘God.’ but the next verse will always then say ‘Mother’ and ‘God.’ It’s gender-balanced.”
“Jesus was for an egalitarian community. He did not have room for titles or status. And it is recorded that many of the disciples called him Lord. But they had a different idea about worshipping him,” she said. “Jesus was a rabbi and teacher. It was a relationship of mentoring, looking up to him for that kind of companionship.”
“There are lots of problems in that prayer book that are just so patriarchal it’s laughable — language loaded with ‘Lord’ and power references that owe their existence to the Coverdale 16th century translation, the time of the Tudors, Henry VIII,” McBride said.
And there’s no question “Lord” has patriarchal connotations, he noted.
“I’m sorry, but if there is a Lord, by implication there is a Lady,” he said.
St. Francis in the Foothills United Methodist Church has been minimizing its use of Lord for two decades, senior pastor David Wilkinson said.
“We usually change ‘Lord’ to ‘love’ or ’soul’ or ‘light,’ ” Wilkinson said. “It’s pretty much a hierarchical, patriarchal image we’re getting rid of.”
A lifelong Episcopalian, retired middle school teacher Jane Chilcott calls the reduction of “Lord” usage she’s heard at the Come & See service “refreshing.” She also likes the references to a genderless God, because that’s how she’s always viewed the divine.
The Come & See Sunday night alternate service changes wordings of long-held Episcopal worship traditions, such as when the minister says, “The Lord be with you” and the congregation responds, “And also with you.” Instead, Come & See parishioners hear the minister say, “The peace of God be always with you.”
Rewriting liturgy is not only about gender and power balance, noted Lindell, the St. Philip’s deacon.
“We don’t stress the blood and gore of the crucifixion and the so-called sacrifice of the Mass,” he said. “I think that calls attention to Jesus’ death but it doesn’t call attention to why we are Christians. It seems to me, being a Christian isn’t just about the birth and death of Jesus. It’s about living in the world with his life as an example.”
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I don't even know where to begin with this mess of blasphemy. I do know that I can't wait for these hippies to burn in hell.
"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -- 2 John 7
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: False Christians Remove All Traces of God From Services -
04-24-2007, 02:59 AM
I guess we know what they use for toilet paper, eh?
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Re: False Christians Remove All Traces of God From Services -
04-25-2007, 06:41 PM
You could trace a lot of this back to Star Wars. The Force has more personality than this emasculated "god" they worship.
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“We usually change ‘Lord’ to ‘love’ or ’soul’ or ‘light,’ ” Wilkinson said. “It’s pretty much a hierarchical, patriarchal image we’re getting rid of.”
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See? They might as well change 'Lord' to 'the Force' and throw a stuffed Yoda doll up on the cross
I highly recommend "American Gods" by Neil Gaiman as that's the direction YHWH is heading. There's a great scene where the down-and-out goddess Oestre is at a diner in California. Her waitress is a self-proclaimed Pagan, but she is not smart enough to celebrate the Spring Equinox in an orgiastic fashion and of course does not even really worship Oestre or the rest of the pantheon. Instead, she worships the "goddess principle". "It's kind of a female thing", the hippie-dippy waitress adds.
It's a pretty good portrait of False Christians, among others.
Isaiah 45:6-7:
"...I am the LORD and there is none else. I form the light and create darkness. I make peace an create evil. I the LORD do all these things." (KJV)
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