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Default How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 08-25-2010, 10:04 AM

Ok, so you hokey backwater Christers consider the entire KJV Bible to be inerrant, yes? You think it is without fault. That there is not a single misleading statement within.

So tell me then, whenever the Devil/Satan speaks in it, is he telling the truth? Whenever Satan speaks, most of his statements are in error, and even the truth that he uses is twisted and distorted, and therefore is erroneous.

So now you are in a quandary. If you admit that Satan is all lies, then you are saying your Bible is not inerrant. But, if you claim inerrancy, you are giving credence and support to Satan.

So, which is it?



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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 08-25-2010, 01:24 PM

The presentation of a lie, clearly explained as being spoken by a liar, does not make the account untruthful...
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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 08-25-2010, 03:11 PM

It's worse than that. In Genesis, God lied, while Satan spoke the truth:

2:17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

3:4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

As it turns out, Adam lived 930 years.


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To us Jesus corrects Satan's lies so Satan is speaking THE TRUTH. To man hating lesbian (as in you secretly want me Tyeisha) like you Jesus doesn't correct Satan's words so you see only lies.



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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 08-25-2010, 04:10 PM

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Ok, so you hokey backwater Christers consider the entire KJV Bible to be inerrant, yes? You think it is without fault. That there is not a single misleading statement within.

So tell me then, whenever the Devil/Satan speaks in it, is he telling the truth? Whenever Satan speaks, most of his statements are in error, and even the truth that he uses is twisted and distorted, and therefore is erroneous.

So now you are in a quandary. If you admit that Satan is all lies, then you are saying your Bible is not inerrant. But, if you claim inerrancy, you are giving credence and support to Satan.

So, which is it?
Let me explain it to you in terms that even your lezbertarian Negress brain can understand. When you quote someone, you're not necessarily saying that what the person said is true; you're just saying that that person said it. Thus, as long as the Bible accurately quotes what the devil said, however much the devil may have lied, the Bible is still inerrant.

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It's worse than that. In Genesis, God lied, while Satan spoke the truth:

2:17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

3:4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

As it turns out, Adam lived 930 years.
2 Peter 3:8: But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So by God's clock, 930 years would still be that day.


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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 08-25-2010, 05:01 PM

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As it turns out, Adam lived 930 years.
And what happend after 930 years?
Bingo - he died.

Why do you still hate Jesus?


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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 08-26-2010, 03:33 AM

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Ok, so you hokey backwater Christers consider the entire KJV Bible to be inerrant, yes? You think it is without fault. That there is not a single misleading statement within.

So tell me then, whenever the Devil/Satan speaks in it, is he telling the truth? Whenever Satan speaks, most of his statements are in error, and even the truth that he uses is twisted and distorted, and therefore is erroneous.

So now you are in a quandary. If you admit that Satan is all lies, then you are saying your Bible is not inerrant. But, if you claim inerrancy, you are giving credence and support to Satan.

So, which is it?
I'm not sure about your logic, professor, but note:

The wages of sin is death!

Verbatim from the KJV! Is the grammar of the KJV inerrant, or was the grammar at that time different from now?

Or is the Lord a descriptivist? I'm sure that this is the case. Of course the baptwit clicque is not interested in the truth, and will delete this, but here is a couple of interesting quotes:

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Before the science of language, linguistics, schools and universities taught what is known as 'prescriptive grammar.' Prescriptive grammar is not grammar (the rules of spoken language) at all but a list of "do's and don'ts" prescribing the way those in or striving for the upper class should talk. Because all upper-class private schools of the time emphasized, if not required Latin, 'good' grammar was presumed to be grammar that emulated Latin grammar.
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This example teaches us two important lessons about language. First, each and every language has its own set of grammatical rules and everyone who speaks that language knows what they are in his or her region. (They do vary slightly from region to region--big deal.) That is what speech is: the use of grammatical rules to express oneself. Second, prescriptive grammar is based on misconceptions about language and causes far more mischief than good.

Better to stick with the linguists.

The Phantom Linguist strikes again!
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When you quote someone, you're not necessarily saying that what the person said is true; you're just saying that that person said it. Thus, as long as the Bible accurately quotes what the devil said, however much the devil may have lied, the Bible is still inerrant.
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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 09-05-2010, 09:32 PM

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Ok, so you hokey backwater Christers consider the entire KJV Bible to be inerrant, yes? You think it is without fault. That there is not a single misleading statement within.

So tell me then, whenever the Devil/Satan speaks in it, is he telling the truth? Whenever Satan speaks, most of his statements are in error, and even the truth that he uses is twisted and distorted, and therefore is erroneous.

So now you are in a quandary. If you admit that Satan is all lies, then you are saying your Bible is not inerrant. But, if you claim inerrancy, you are giving credence and support to Satan.

So, which is it?
Gosh, is it any wonder you are completely confused! Only God knows what all those "weave" chemicals must be doing to your already dim negroid brain!

Of course satan lies! He uses his lies to tempt people into wrong-doing and going against God. Errors arise from ignorance or deceit; and our God is neither ignorant, nor is he a deceiver! Satan IS a deceiver! It is GOD who is inerrant. His Teachings and HIS Scripture. He is PERFECT and therefore HE cannot and does not lie.

The Scriptures are always right (do not err) in fulfilling their purpose; ie: Revealing God, showing us God's vision, God's purposes, and God's good news to us all! The teachings of Scripture are not to be disregarded or tossed away as if they were a mistake. They must be dealt with straightforwardly, in a way which affects what we say and do as people and as a body of True Christian believers.

If you notice, people in the Bible as in life now made and make mistakes and go against Him(even if just momentarily). IS the fact they turned their back on God a lie? No, did however they lie whilst their back was turned on him? YES!

It appears to me that you are attempting to discredit God with your deception, blasphemy and satan supporting, surfeiting synopsis!

STOP attempting to discredit God as your feeble endeavors will NOT work here! You may well be scared of where YOU are heading (where satan dwelleth..that's for sure), but I know that I will be safe, resting against God's bosom, with Jesus deeply within me!

Rev 2:13

I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.




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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 09-08-2010, 11:39 PM

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There probably have been plenty complains which you failed to notice since you have no ears.


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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 09-09-2010, 01:33 AM

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..there's usually a lot of noise going on
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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 09-09-2010, 09:18 PM

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I'm not sure about your logic, professor, but note:

The wages of sin is death!

Verbatim from the KJV! Is the grammar of the KJV inerrant, or was the grammar at that time different from now?
Languages change over time. Sure, English was created from whole cloth at the Tower of Babel, but that meanest not it hath ne'er been tweaked from tyme to tyme.

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It's worse than that. In Genesis, God lied, while Satan spoke the truth:

2:17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

3:4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

As it turns out, Adam lived 930 years.
It's nice to see you turning to the Bible, even if you didn't get your facts straight. The simple fact is that God does not lie. God himself told us that in the Holy Bible:

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent. Numbers 23:19 (note also the words of Paul: "it was impossible for God to lie...." in Hebrews 6:18)

Of course, God does deceive people without lying. He does that a lot:

Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. 1 Kings 22:23

O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. Jeremiah 20:7

For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:11


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Default Re: How can the Bible be Inerrant when Satan Speaks - 09-09-2010, 11:26 PM

I'm really confused about what your trying to say.

So if I go to my husband and say "You know what that idiot Tyeisha said? She said that because the Bible quotes Satan, that it's lying!" I am lying because I quoted your lies?


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Ok, so you hokey backwater Christers consider the entire KJV Bible to be inerrant, yes? You think it is without fault. That there is not a single misleading statement within.

So tell me then, whenever the Devil/Satan speaks in it, is he telling the truth? Whenever Satan speaks, most of his statements are in error, and even the truth that he uses is twisted and distorted, and therefore is erroneous.

So now you are in a quandary. If you admit that Satan is all lies, then you are saying your Bible is not inerrant. But, if you claim inerrancy, you are giving credence and support to Satan.

So, which is it?
Professor, if one reports a lie that does not make one a liar. I suspect your evil life-style has addled your faculties (pun intended).


For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:...

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I think my head is concrete - but there haven't been any complaints
I doubt that your head is literally concrete. The term "head" is a concrete noun because it denotes something physical that can be detected by the five senses. Whether what goes on inside your skull is often much more sentient than most blocks of concrete is another matter.


For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:...

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..there's usually a lot of noise going on
That noise you hear is the wind whistling between your ears. Repent, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, and start tithing to Landover. The Lord Jesus alone can give you peace on earth and eternal joy in the hereafter; only the most absurd of fools would reject such an opportunity.


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It's worse than that. In Genesis, God lied, while Satan spoke the truth:

2:17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

3:4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

As it turns out, Adam lived 930 years.
Adam and Eve were created immortal. The moment Adam bit into the apple he brought death upon himself and all of mankind. Perhaps this is conceptually difficult for unsaved trash to grasp, but God did not lie.


For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:...

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Romans 1:26 - 32
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