[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

...No offense intended .

None will be taken. True Christians™ aren't snowflakes.

Psalm 119:165 "Great peace have they which love thy law: And nothing shall offend them."

Why not use the break to read the Bible so you actually know what you're rejecting?

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

Everything seems to be against god these days... I'm going to go off the forum for a bit, and rethink whether I want to be a part of Christianity. No offense intended .

Before you jump to any conclusions, you really should read the Bible. All of it, not just a few random bits and pieces. It is, after all, the foundation of Christianity. Read it critically, as is, and not as you would like it to be. And then make up your mind.

To be completely honest with you, I believe that if more people read the Bible, really read all of it, we would have less religious conflicts (which boil down to people imagining what they want the Bible to be in contradictory ways).

[GaleWhoring the Boring (On Moderation)]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

Everything seems to be against god these days... I'm going to go off the forum for a bit, and rethink whether I want to be a part of Christianity. No offense intended .

I think that's a healthy approach, time to clear one's head is always needed. Remember that there are many ways of approaching Christianity. Most Christians have barely looked at the Bible, so you're not alone! And they can't all be wrong, can they? So hang in there!

[LW1997 (On Moderation)]

Emos generally are fake Christians. Look at Trent Reznor.

[VictorXEmily]

Originally Posted by LW1997

Emos generally are fake Christians. Look at Trent Reznor.

You people disgust me! You say your "true Christians", yet you are clearly judging others, mocking others, and telling people to go kill themselves because they are "emo". Honestly! Get a life! You're all using the bible way out of context!
I love My Chemical Romance! In fact, they are my favorite band! But does that mean I want to die? Does that mean I cut myself? No! I never have! One of your problems here is jumping to such conclusions.
You guys call yourselves "Christians", but honestly, you are a joke. The bible says to love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you! Jesus says we should love our neighbors! That doesn't mean just the person next door, it means everyone! You all seem to clearly not understand that!
I know you're going to say "I don't read my bible", but here's the thing, I do read my bible. I do believe in Jesus. I forgive you all, I just wish you could clear your mind!

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

You people disgust me!

Hello and to our friendly forum!

Thank you for your persecution! It reassures us that we are right and you are wrong!

2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

You say your "true Christians", yet you are clearly judging others,

Just like Jesus told us to.

mocking others,

Following Jesus' example.

and telling people to go kill themselves because they are "emo".

I doubt that you can find a True Christian™ propagating the sin of suicide.

Honestly! Get a life! You're all using the bible way out of context!

Prove it. I'll be here all week.

You guys call yourselves "Christians", but honestly, you are a joke.

Why do you call Jesus a joke?

The bible says to love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you!

But we do pray for those who persecute us! But don't you know, that Jesus came to make war, not peace?

Matthew 10:34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Jesus says we should love our neighbors! That doesn't mean just the person next door, it means everyone!

Nope.

I know you're going to say "I don't read my bible",

Yup.

but here's the thing, I do read my bible.

Prove it.

I do believe in Jesus. I forgive you all, I just wish you could clear your mind!

I will pray for your lost soul. Maybe God will take away that delusion He sent you so that He can send you to Hell:

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

You people disgust me! You say your "true Christians", yet you are clearly judging others, mocking others, and telling people to go kill themselves because they are "emo". Honestly! Get a life! You're all using the bible way out of context!

If people don't want to be ridiculed, they shouldn't have ridiculous beliefs!

[MitzaLizalor]

You people disgust me! You say your "true Christians" etc.

I'm sorry, whose True Christians are we talking about here?

[VictorXEmily]

Originally Posted by Basilissa

Hello and to our friendly forum!

Thank you for your persecution! It reassures us that we are right and you are wrong!

2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.


Just like Jesus told us to.

Following Jesus' example.

I doubt that you can find a True Christian™ propagating the sin of suicide.

Prove it. I'll be here all week.


Why do you call Jesus a joke?

But we do pray for those who persecute us! But don't you know, that Jesus came to make war, not peace?

Matthew 10:34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Nope.

Yup.

Prove it.


I will pray for your lost soul. Maybe God will take away that delusion He sent you so that He can send you to Hell:

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

So tell me, WHERE in the bible does it say we are to judge others? Do you think JUDGING others is loving your neighbor? Becaause it really isn’t.
You also can’t just assume I don’t read my bible! You don’t know me! Jesus forgives all sin, and I sure hope that you save your soul.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

So tell me, WHERE in the bible does it say we are to judge others? Do you think JUDGING others is loving your neighbor? Becaause it really isn’t.
You also can’t just assume I don’t read my bible! You don’t know me! Jesus forgives all sin, and I sure hope that you save your soul.

I'm glad you asked! You had said you do read your Bible, and we find that most people who consider themselves Christians believe they read the Bible when in reality they read bits and pieces that appeal to their own personal, socially derived moral code. In reality, the Holy Bible has quite a bit to say about the importance of judging, and the responsibility of the True Christian™ to judge righteously.

We are compelled to apply Righteousness to our judgement, which we do because with Christ in our hearts, we walk the Walk of Righteousness (Proverbs 8:20):

Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment:
thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty:
but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
Leviticus 19:15

The Holy Bible tells you that you can identify the Righteous Man of God by his judgmentalism:

The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
Psalm 37:30

Again, compelled to do so for the sake of the weary, lost soul:

Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
Proverbs 31:9

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
John 7:24

And why, you might ask, are True Christians™ compelled by the Lord thy God to judge so earnestly? Why, it's so we know who to shun of course!

For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
1st Corinthians 5:12-13

Notice in particular 6:5 where Paul urges us to Judge fellow "brethren," that is to say, real members of the Body of Christ, rather than leaving it up to civil authorities.

Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
1st Corinthians 6:1-6

Sharing the Gospel and Judging go hand in hand, dear. One cannot naturally know Truth from Falsehoods. This knowledge is supernaturally known, and comes from Discernment. This is our charge - to convince others to believe as we do and know how to judge Truth from Lies.

I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
2nd Timothy 4:1-5

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

So tell me, WHERE in the bible does it say we are to judge others? Do you think JUDGING others is loving your neighbor? Becaause it really isn’t.

Well, dear, when you see an underlined text and you see a link when you hover your mouse over it, it is called a hyperlink. It means that when you click on the underlined portion it will lead you to that link.

Here are the hyperlinks from my previous post copied here for your convenience:

Originally Posted by Basilissa

Just like Jesus told us to.

Following Jesus' example.

Nope.

All of these links go to threads which address the issues in question. I could give you the gist of it but I can see that Sister Mary Etheldreda beat me to it.

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

You also can’t just assume I don’t read my bible! You don’t know me!

Well, the only thing that I do know you so far is your utter ignorance of the Bible. But yes, I do not know anything else about you.

Jesus forgives all sin, and I sure hope that you save your soul.

Not all sin, sweetie! Which you would have known if you have read the Bible:

Matthew 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

I hope that was helpful. I will continue praying for you.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

...Do you think JUDGING others is loving your neighbor?...

It is, if you're a Christian. As the ladies have already shown you where the Bible specifically commands the faithful to judge others, I'll take a different tack and use *gasp* logic */gasp*.

The Bible says that any sin is enough to send you to Hell, see James 2:10. Now imagine that a True Christian™ sees someone sinning. He/she will see the sinning, know that the sinner is endangering their soul, and tell them that what they're doing is wrong (i.e. engage in judging). By these actions, they may keep the other from going to Hell.

You, on the other hand, would just say, "oh, that's fine".

How are you helping them? You aren't. Is that "love" to you, to allow others to go to Hell?

...You also can’t just assume I don’t read my bible!...

When you spout stuff that has no Biblical foundation, and runs counter to what the Bible really says, then people will not assume that you've never read the Bible, they'll KNOW you've never read the Bible.

Cure your ignorance:

...Jesus forgives all sin...

The Bible never says that. It says that He forgives sins from those who ask for it (the rest stay), and there is a sin that He will NOT forgive in any circumstance. Surprise me by reading enough of the Bible to find out what it is. edit: shoot, Bas let a spoiler in

...and I sure hope that you save your soul.

No one here thinks they can save their soul. They know that the Bible says that only Jesus can (because 1) that's what the Bible says, and 2) they've read the Bible).

[MitzaLizalor]

Although I disagree that anything in the previous post has anything to do with The Chemicals, some of his comments are accidentally correct. The point being that, due to their conduct and particularly their conduct when holding a pen and a paper serviette, we know that they have not read The Bible either. Or that if they have they have not understood it. Freaks romancing chemicals generally have very addled understanding of anything they read. Probably that's due to the flashing Axminster carpet patterns they see superimposed over the words. Here are some Axminster designs with words:

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See the problem?

[VictorXEmily]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

It is, if you're a Christian. As the ladies have already shown you where the Bible specifically commands the faithful to judge others, I'll take a different tack and use *gasp* logic */gasp*.

The Bible says that any sin is enough to send you to Hell, see James 2:10. Now imagine that a True Christian™ sees someone sinning. He/she will see the sinning, know that the sinner is endangering their soul, and tell them that what they're doing is wrong (i.e. engage in judging). By these actions, they may keep the other from going to Hell.

You, on the other hand, would just say, "oh, that's fine".

How are you helping them? You aren't. Is that "love" to you, to allow others to go to Hell?


When you spout stuff that has no Biblical foundation, and runs counter to what the Bible really says, then people will not assume that you've never read the Bible, they'll KNOW you've never read the Bible.

Cure your ignorance:


Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Yes, we should judge others righteously. If a Christian brother or sister is sinning, you should let them know that it's wrong. You should pray for them, as I am praying for you and everyone else on this forum. Many people on this particular forum are not judging righteously, and I merely tried to point that out, but I didn't word things well. I apologize.

There's also a problem with your arguments here. You keep jumping to false conclusions. You don't know me, like I have already said! Therefore, you really shouldn't jump to conclusions such as "not reading my bible". Here's the thing that I have already said, I DO read my bible. These conclusions are false and unrighteous judgment. I am merely trying to help you understand the bible a little more, which I DO READ!!!!!!!!!

You have much knowledge of the bible, but that doesn't mean much. As true Christians, we should live our lives for Christ.
The Bible never says that. It says that He forgives sins from those who ask for it (the rest stay), and there is a sin that He will NOT forgive in any circumstance. Surprise me by reading enough of the Bible to find out what it is. edit: shoot, Bas let a spoiler in



No one here thinks they can save their soul. They know that the Bible says that only Jesus can (because 1) that's what the Bible says, and 2) they've read the Bible).

I apologize as I was a little unclear earlier, I am going to rephrase everything. God can't be around sin. I didn't mean to say He forgives all sins. Everyone can be saved. That's what I was trying to get at. Sorry. God loves the sinner, not the sin. God loves everyone, enough that He sent Jesus down, to die a gruesome death on the Cross, so that forgiveness is open for all who accept Him.
You see, I do believe that Jesus died for the world. I believe that Jesus died and rose again. I believe that forgiveness is open for all. Don't you DARE tell me otherwise! I have HOPE in Jesus. His life, death, resurrection. All of it. Please don't assume I don't. We are to live our lives out for God. We are to show love for others. One way we can show that love is by righteous judgment. If someone is sinning, you should help them stop.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

I apologize as I was a little unclear earlier, I am going to rephrase everything. God can't be around sin. I didn't mean to say He forgives all sins. Everyone can be saved. That's what I was trying to get at. Sorry. God loves the sinner, not the sin. God loves everyone, enough that He sent Jesus down, to die a gruesome death on the Cross, so that forgiveness is open for all who accept Him.

That doesn't make sense, dear. If God can't be around sin, then how can He be around the sinner who confesses and accepts Christ into their hearts? Or do you imagine a courier system of angels that relay the prayer to Heaven? In your set-up, can some angels be around sin without tainting the angel next in the relay?

And if God doesn't forgive all sins but nevertheless everyone can be saved, what was the function of Christ's sacrifice? Why would He endure such an uncomfortable long weekend if there was a less painful, less humiliating process to salvation? One that likely reaches more people than His plan did? Why bother with Plan A when Plan B works better and costs less?

Why do you say God loves the sinner when He claims the very opposite? Or are you so unfamiliar with His Word that you didn't know that?

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

You see, I do believe that Jesus died for the world. I believe that Jesus died and rose again. I believe that forgiveness is open for all. Don't you DARE tell me otherwise!

Well sure, but so what? You have some weird beliefs that jump from point A to point D without considering points B and C that contradict your entire point. You are essentially invoking magic to make what cannot work, work, and hoping no one (including yourself) notices. Do you think Jesus cares about this belief any more than He cares about the belief of the Zulu Witch Doctor or the Cajun Voodoo Priestess or the Italian Catholic? Having a belief isn't the key to Heaven dear, having the right belief is.

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

If someone is sinning, you should help them stop.

You are sinning and you should stop.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by VictorXEmily

Everyone can be saved.

No they can't. Why don't you post some evidence with your claims?

God explains it this way:

EPHESIANS 1 .KJV . look up
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will

People do not float about, drifting from one delusion to another until they bump into God or maybe not or think an angel looks a bit like God and worship that. Or worship God if they feel like it. Or not.

God chooses who should be holy and without blame. He did so before the foundation of the world. These and only these people get saved. God has predestinated The Elect for Salvation. Everyone else remains as deserving of torture as when they were born and torture is what they get.

Do you have a better knowledge of this subject than God? Is that what you're saying? If your wisdom exceeds that of God, are you deserving of worship? And if not, why worship a God of inferior knowledge?

[gayboi900]

Hell yeah bro I love MCR

[GayChristian]

jesus loves mcr he told me so his favorite song is welcome to the black parade

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by GayChristian

jesus loves mcr he told me so his favorite song is welcome to the black parade

Scripture or STFU, thanks.

Revelation 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, andfrom the things which are written in this book."

[abigailxx]

im christian and i listen to mcr? does this make me bad now ig :/