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Default Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does! - 01-31-2011, 11:22 PM

Let's get one thing out of the way right off the cricket bat: Stephen Green is a Brit. But, as we know, there CAN be pockets of True Christianity™ all over the Earth, no matter how Godless their surroundings may be.

Now to the meat of the matter: Stephen Green is a True Christian™ Pastor in every way. I am bringing this up because the media is once again trying to attack a Pastor because he ACTUALLY practices what is in the Bible. Specifically, he beats his wife when she strays from the Bible. From the story about his ungrateful wife:

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Caroline Green was often punished by her husband Stephen for failing to be a dutiful, compliant wife, but his final act of violence against her — the one that prompted her long-overdue decision to divorce him — was all the more chilling because it was coldly premeditated.Stephen Green wrote a list of his wife’s failings then described the weapon he would make to beat her with.

‘He told me he’d make a piece of wood into a sort of witch’s broom and hit me with it, which he did,’ she recalls, her voice tentative and quiet. ‘He hit me until I bled. I was terrified. I can still remember the pain.
Wait... They are saying that because he took time out of his precious schedule to document all of her transgression and describe to her what his plans were so she would have time to beg for forgiveness from Baby Jesus is "chilling?" The only thing that is chilling here is the fact that I still get chills when I read this. I can only pray that I can one day teach everyone in the world what this man is really all about. The FACT that the LIEberal media is chastising him for this is for one reason alone: He is a Pastor:

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Green, 60, is founder and director of Christian Voice, a fundamentalist group he set up in 1994, whose website thunders against the vices — family breakdown, crime, immorality and drink among them — that are ruining the lives of ‘real people’. For example, after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans in 2005 and killed more than 1,600 people, he claimed it was a result of God’s wrath and had purified the city.

He routinely inveighs against the abolition of the death penalty, no-fault divorce, Islam, abortion and, his particular bête noir, homosexuality. Violent crime and rape, he laments on his website, have risen dramatically in the past 50 years, while he points out that ‘virtue is derided’.
That the media would try to SPIN this as a bad thing is is not surprising seeing as they are all pinko atheist God Mockers. But they obviously have not read the Bible. It teaches us the following (scriptural support follows):

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  • The husband is in authority over his household and has the right/responsibility to discipline his entire household, including the wife.
  • DD is "responsible authority," meaning that if the husband is to have authority then he must be able to take action and mete out consequence in a tangible form.
  • Discipline is a practical expression of love, a proactive way of helping a wife to grow and mature; motivating her to re-align her priorities so that she will not end up in mediocrity.
  • Discipline is expressed in loss of privileges, spanking, corner time, and writing appropriate sentences multiple times. DDers may include prayer, godly examples, and encouragement in their list of ways to discipline.
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LOVE your Husband and OBEY him:
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Titus 2:4-5 (King James Version)
4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Do NOTHING to give the husband cause to discipline you:
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1 Timothy 5:14 (King James Version)
14I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
SUBMIT to your husband as if he were God:
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Ephesians 5:22 (King James Version)
22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Colossians 3:18 (King James Version)
18Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Peter demonstrates that being a wife is like being a slave by reviewing various submissive relationships:

1. Slaves, I Pet.2:18-19, 20.
2. Christ, the pattern for both, I Pet.2:21, 23.
3. Wives, "in the same way", I Pet.3:1, 5-6

In this last piece of scripture, Pete says that wives should behave like slaves:
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1 Peter 3:1 (King James Version)
1Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
Also, do not be prudish in bed since NOTHING you do in bed is sinful:
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Hebrews 13:4 (King James Version)
4Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
So as you can see, the Holy KJV Bible fully supports what this man has done. he even cared enough to use a ROD. While God does not tell us how to punish wives specifcially, he does proscribe a ROD be used in at least ONE form of domestic discipline:


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Proverbs 23:14 (King James Version)
14Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
After all of the lessons he gave he in God's Loving Word, she still didn't get it. She describes her husband's love, all of which come straight from the scripture I have listed:
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‘Stephen listed my misdemeanours: I was disrespectful and disobedient; I wasn’t loving or submissive enough and I was undermining him. He also said I wasn’t giving him his *conjugal rights.

‘He even framed our marriage vows — he always put particular emphasis on my promise to obey him — and hung them over our bed. He believed there was no such thing as marital rape and for years I’d been reluctant to have sex with him, but he said it was my duty and was angry if I refused him.
The media is attacking him because they do not want him spreading the TRUTH about what Christianity is REALLY all about. This persecution is actually addressed in the Bible. A husband disciplining his wife must be prepared to be punished for doing the right thing, up to and including dying for it, just as Christ died for us:

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Ephesians 5:25-27 (King James Version)
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Isn't that beautiful? God so loves women that he commands their husbands to punish them even if the husband will be persecuted and punished, even killed, for doing so!

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Default Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does! - 01-31-2011, 11:44 PM

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Caroline Green was often punished by her husband Stephen for failing to be a dutiful, compliant wife, but his final act of violence against her — the one that prompted her long-overdue decision to divorce him — was all the more chilling because it was coldly premeditated.Stephen Green wrote a list of his wife’s failings then described the weapon he would make to beat her with.

‘He told me he’d make a piece of wood into a sort of witch’s broom and hit me with it, which he did,’ she recalls, her voice tentative and quiet. ‘He hit me until I bled. I was terrified. I can still remember the pain.
Really? A Christian Pastor said he was going to make a "witch's broom"? Why do I think the wife is a lying harlot. Oh, I noticed they couldn't be bothered to post the list of transgressions that she was guilty of. Of course not, in this femnazi world the woman is ALWAYS innocent

I also noticed that nobody is telling his side of the story.


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Default Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does! - 02-01-2011, 02:01 AM

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I also noticed that nobody is telling his side of the story.
Nobody, that is, except us, the KJV Bible, and God!


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Further reading to help you become a True Christian™

Stoning Sinners: A How-To Guide
Scientific Study: Bible is NOT "All About Love"
The One Sin Jesus Says He Won't EVER Forgive!
Should we only follow SOME of the Bible?
How will YOU sacrifice your kids?
20 Questions To See If Your Son Is A Fag
God: Dress Like A Whore...Get Raped!
Bible: If You Love Your Wife, Beat Her!
Logic and Bible Agree: Gay is a choice!
Nursery Rhymes Teach kids that Christ is Lord!
There is no such thing as an "agnostic!"
Science: People are Only Islamic Because They are Depressed!

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Default Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does! - 02-01-2011, 02:38 PM

Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?


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I beat my wife everyday.
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Default Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does! - 03-15-2011, 07:22 PM

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I beat my wife everyday.
Ah. So you're just a <vile profanity removed> coward. I hope your wife wakes up one day and runs before you kill her with your "love."

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Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?
I'll point you to the scripture when you can point me to the scripture that says we evolved from monkeys.


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Default Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does! - 03-18-2011, 12:27 PM

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I'll point you to the scripture when you can point me to the scripture that says we evolved from monkeys.
Answer the question! If there's one thing christians are good at, it is dodging a question that they do not know the answer.
Furthermore, there are no bible quotes on evolution because the bible knows nothing on the topic, but instead prefers children's fairytales..and rape
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Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?
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Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?
Well, we know for a fact that God wants us to rule over our wives as can be plainly seen here:

1 Corinthians 11:3
1 Corinthians 11:7 - 9
1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35
Ephesians 5:22 - 25
Colossians 3:18
Romans 7:2
1 Peter 3:1 -3
Genesis 3:16

And one can only assume that in LOVING your wife and correctly ruling over her, you must CORRECT her from time to time!

Last night my wife made dinner (as always) but forgot to clean the dishes afterwards. I woke up this morning and the sink was full of dirty dishes. I "corrected" her with the back of my hand, and rest assured she won't make the same mistake again. What is wrong with that?
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Last night my wife made dinner (as always) but forgot to clean the dishes afterwards. I woke up this morning and the sink was full of dirty dishes. I "corrected" her with the back of my hand, and rest assured she won't make the same mistake again. What is wrong with that?
Absolutely nothing. There is nothing wrong with "constructive criticism" for when they inevitably mess something up.


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Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?
Did you even read my post? Focus on the part where Peter says wives should be like slaves. Now what does the Bible say about slaves? You may beat them:

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Exodus 21:20-21 (King James Version)
20And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. 21Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.
Re-read what Peter said. Slaves obey your masters. We are slaves to God. Wives are slaves to their husbands. See how simple God's Laws really are? Just think of everything like slavery and all will become clear.


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Further reading to help you become a True Christian™

Stoning Sinners: A How-To Guide
Scientific Study: Bible is NOT "All About Love"
The One Sin Jesus Says He Won't EVER Forgive!
Should we only follow SOME of the Bible?
How will YOU sacrifice your kids?
20 Questions To See If Your Son Is A Fag
God: Dress Like A Whore...Get Raped!
Bible: If You Love Your Wife, Beat Her!
Logic and Bible Agree: Gay is a choice!
Nursery Rhymes Teach kids that Christ is Lord!
There is no such thing as an "agnostic!"
Science: People are Only Islamic Because They are Depressed!

Reading only the parts of the Bible your pastor tells you to (those that make you feel warm and fuzzy) is nothing but mental and spiritual masturbation. Read the WHOLE Bible to find out what Christianity is REALLY all about! Only then can you talk to us about why we try so hard to save people from Hell.
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Exclamation Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does! - 02-03-2014, 05:02 PM

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Isn't that beautiful? God so loves women that he commands their husbands to punish them even if the husband will be persecuted and punished, even killed, for doing so!

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Your handling of scripture is not only laughable but blasphemous. Absolutely wretched how you molested Ephesians 5:25 to say a husband should beat his wife even if the authorities come after him. Fool, in those days in that culture ALL MEN regardless of faith beat their wives and no one gave a damn! Christ showed us we were wrong and we see His shining example of gentleness and compassion with PROSTITUTES. Husbands are, like Christ, to DIE TO SELF, at times giving up things out of love for our wives as Christ gave up life out of love for His church! How do you not see that?

Oh, right... because you are a misogynistic woman-hater. And you pervert God's Word to justify yourself. Repent now because "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also", and your misguided understanding of the Word has led you into a false faith and thus, false works (or at the very least, proposition of beating your wife). Thin ice, friend.

As well, your mishandling of Hebrews 14:3 to justify forcing your wife into any sexual act is disgusting and defies the very heart of God. Anything that is unnatural, unhealthy, unsanitary, uncomfortable, undesirable, is thus UNLOVING. Regardless of whether both parties wish to partake in a certain act, it may still be something God would consider an abomination which he never intended our bodies for. "Wives submit to your husbands" in conjunction with the already mentioned 'husbands, dying to self for their wives" means a healthy sexual relationship of give and take. Forcing someone into a sexual act proves you are devoid of love. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love" 1 John 4:8

Lastly, we are not GOD, and the wife's submission to her husband as unto God means that she is to trust God and submit, understanding that He is sovereign and in control. Therefore, the husband should be right with God AND HAVE A RIGHT UNDERSTANDING OF HIS WORD, so that HE IS WALKING IN STEP WITH THE SPIRIT and making wise, holy choices. Doubtfully something you understand or do. Thus her submission to her husband is akin to submitting to God. In the event that her husband is unwise, if her council (Gen 2:18, she is a helpmeet) is not agreed upon, she trusts that the Lord will guide the circumstances around that of her husbands foolish decisions, OR correct HIM.

The discipline talked about is that of "WASHING IN THE WORD" meaning studying the bible correctly with her so the Holy Spirit can work in her life. Obviously something you can not be trusted to do. Do I ever pity your wife and your daughters and any other woman you come into contact with...

Shame on you. I pray you appreciate this rebuke from a godly, discerning man, who is faithful to the LORD and His Word.

Note: You may wish to read Ezekiel 36:26 and John 3:3.... Hell is an awful place and you won't get their with a stone-cold, unregenerate heart. Read 1 John 5, if you are not too obstinate and proud.
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Your handling of scripture is not only laughable but blasphemous. Absolutely wretched how you molested Ephesians 5:25 to say a husband should beat his wife even if the authorities come after him. Fool, in those days in that culture ALL MEN regardless of faith beat their wives and no one gave a damn! Christ showed us we were wrong and we see His shining example of gentleness and compassion with PROSTITUTES.
I'm not sure if you realize, but Ephesians were written after the time of Christ and is based purely on His ideas. You also seem to miss out that as Christ says it, every Christian woman MUST be subject to their husbands.


Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
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I'm not sure if you realize, but Ephesians were written after the time of Christ and is based purely on His ideas. You also seem to miss out that as Christ says it, every Christian woman MUST be subject to their husbands.


Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
And who wrote Ephesians? Paul, the Apostle - Met Christ on the road to Damascus in his glory. I can honestly say I haven't met Christ in that powerful a way.. but neither have you. And neither has anyone else on this forum.

And who wrote to his disciple Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:16 where he said "ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD BREATHED...", again, PAUL, the same one so filled and submitted to the Holy Spirit that his mind and words were being guided along supernaturally while writing these letters for the strengthening and reproof of Christ's Body, the Church (fine, 20-40 years after Christ's ascension, so what!).

Out one side of your mouth you write "Ephesians is written purely based on Christ's ideas", and out the other side you tightly grasp Ephesians and Colossians to justify BEATING WOMEN!?! MAKE UP YOUR MIND YOU DOUBLE-MINDED!! GOD-BREATHED TRUTH OR NOT?!

These APOSTLES were charged with the establishment of this beautiful representation of the Body - the CHURCH - to the world to get the gospel out. But clearly most of the members on this forum are lost to that and simply run around belittling people (ie: Lost, unsaved, confused midgets stuff in bondage and under demonic oppression), making fun of them, and scaring them away from the good news. The good news is offensive enough as it is to all of us who are proud and of reprobate minds! HAVE YOU NOT FORGOTTEN THAT YOU WERE ONCE A LOWLY UNSAVED SINNER DESERVING OF ETERNAL HELL AND SEPARATION FROM OUR GOOD GOD!? HOW DARE YOU ALL SPIT UPON THOSE WHO ARE LOST AND KNOW NO BETTER! HOW DARE YOU DEFILE THE WORD OF OUR LORD!!! YOU ARE PHARISEES!!! BROOD OF VIPERS!! WHITE-WASHED TOMBS!!!!

YOU CHERRY PICK VERSES FOR YOUR OWN DESIGN!!! Read on, brother (if I can call you that), Ephesians 5:23, "For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body" THE SAVIOUR! We are to be the Body, submitted to the head, going where He wishes us to go, serving where He wants us to serve, loving where He wants us to love! YOUR TYPE IS A DISGRACE! STANDING ON STREET CORNERS SCREAMING AT PEOPLE IN HATRED!!! WHO WAS IT THAT CHRIST HATED?!!? THE RELIGIOUS!!! THE PHARISEES!!! YES WE WHEN LOST MUST KNOW OUR SIN TO KNOW OUR NEED OF A SAVIOUR, BUT LOOK AT HOW GOD DELIVERS SUCH NEWS; WITH COMPASSION!!! READ JOHN 4 with the WOMAN AT THE WELL!! READ JOHN 1:14, Christ came full of GRACE AND TRUTH!, NOT TRUTH ALONE!!! YOUR TYPE ARE DESPICABLE MONSTERS!!! YOU'VE RUINED THE GOOD NEWS AND YOU WILL BE JUDGED ACCORDINGLY!!! I LOOK FORWARD TO THE RETURN OF CHRIST BECAUSE YOUR KIND HAS BROKEN THE IMAGE THE CHURCH WAS TO BE FOR THIS LOST AND DYING WORLD!!!!
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I had to look up "Papist"... Of course I'm not a Roman Catholic. I'm a protestant. If anyone has done damage to the Truth of God's Word, it's the Catholic Church after 300 AD. Jesus is the intercessor for man, not the pope. Their ideas mostly come from false logic and contemplative prayer which opens the minds to the implanted thoughts from the spirit realm, and not weighed properly against scripture has led to the adoption of many false traditions and doctrines (ie: immaculate conception to name one).

I'm a follower of Jesus and I love His Word and the Truth that it is.

I received your PM's and warnings... I can tell by how you all handle the word that you know it, and were probably raised in homes where church and the bible were a frequent part of it.
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YES WE WHEN LOST MUST KNOW OUR SIN TO KNOW OUR NEED OF A SAVIOUR, BUT LOOK AT HOW GOD DELIVERS SUCH NEWS; WITH COMPASSION!!! READ JOHN 4 with the WOMAN AT THE WELL!! READ JOHN 1:14, Christ came full of GRACE AND TRUTH!, NOT TRUTH ALONE!!! YOUR TYPE ARE DESPICABLE MONSTERS!!! YOU'VE RUINED THE GOOD NEWS AND YOU WILL BE JUDGED ACCORDINGLY!!! I LOOK FORWARD TO THE RETURN OF CHRIST BECAUSE YOUR KIND HAS BROKEN THE IMAGE THE CHURCH WAS TO BE FOR THIS LOST AND DYING WORLD!!!!
Hi, and welcome to our friendly forums! I see you've made the mistake of reading the Holy Bible with your 21st Century Jesus Loves Everybody Kumbaya glasses. That's a shame because you are worshiping a false lord, dear, and are in dire need of the Good News yourself. You see, Jesus wasn't the 1970's throwback hippy people like to portray Him as. Oh no. He was confident, strong, divisive, and yes, even quite rude to people. Jesus called people "dogs" (Matthew 7:6; 2 Peter 2:20-22, Revelation 22:15); "swine" (Matthew 7:6); "vipers" (Matthew 3:7; Matthew 12:34, 23:33; Luke 3:7); hypocrites" (Matthew 6:2; Matthew 6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56); "children of the devil" (John 8:44; Acts 13:10); and much more (found in the link I provided, thanks to our own dearest Spirit-Led apologist, Mr. Thurmond). Now imagine if the LORD spoke in today's vernacular. "Dogs" and "vipers" might be replaced with "retards" and "unsaved trash." Why does this surprise you so much to see the LORD is a God of Action? Do you forget He is the One who ordered the massacres of entire cities to wipe out the stain of blasphemy ( (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)? Do you forget He is the One who ordered the whole scale murder, pillage, and gang rape of entire cultures for the sake of His Glory (Numbers 31:7-18)? Do you forget He turned a woman into a pillar of salt simply for being curious and not controlling her impulse to see what happened to her city and all her friends and neighbors (Genesis 19:26)? Why do you wish to envision Our Great and Mighty Lord as a pansy, skipping along and singing folk songs with an acoustic guitar, water with lemon wedges and mint leaves, and eating vegetarian? That's not a nice image to promote of the Redeemer of the World, dear, and I think you owe Him an apology.


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Hi, and welcome to our friendly forums! I see you've made the mistake of reading the Holy Bible with your 21st Century Jesus Loves Everybody Kumbaya glasses. That's a shame because you are worshiping a false lord, dear, and are in dire need of the Good News yourself. You see, Jesus wasn't the 1970's throwback hippy people like to portray Him as. Oh no. He was confident, strong, divisive, and yes, even quite rude to people. Jesus called people "dogs" (Matthew 7:6; 2 Peter 2:20-22, Revelation 22:15); "swine" (Matthew 7:6); "vipers" (Matthew 3:7; Matthew 12:34, 23:33; Luke 3:7); hypocrites" (Matthew 6:2; Matthew 6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56); "children of the devil" (John 8:44; Acts 13:10); and much more (found in the link I provided, thanks to our own dearest Spirit-Led apologist, Mr. Thurmond). Now imagine if the LORD spoke in today's vernacular. "Dogs" and "vipers" might be replaced with "retards" and "unsaved trash." Why does this surprise you so much to see the LORD is a God of Action? Do you forget He is the One who ordered the massacres of entire cities to wipe out the stain of blasphemy ( (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)? Do you forget He is the One who ordered the whole scale murder, pillage, and gang rape of entire cultures for the sake of His Glory (Numbers 31:7-18)? Do you forget He turned a woman into a pillar of salt simply for being curious and not controlling her impulse to see what happened to her city and all her friends and neighbors (Genesis 19:26)? Why do you wish to envision Our Great and Mighty Lord as a pansy, skipping along and singing folk songs with an acoustic guitar, water with lemon wedges and mint leaves, and eating vegetarian? That's not a nice image to promote of the Redeemer of the World, dear, and I think you owe Him an apology.
How dare you from reading my posts misrepresent what I was saying. Jesus Christ is a fair and just God who hates sin and will pour His wrath out on this world when He returns. All of these verses about hypocrites, He was talking TO THE PHARISEES!!! THE ULTRA RELIGIOUS!!! THE TYPES OF PEOPLE YOU ARE!!! You are misrepresenting Christ and His true followers, and thus His Church and His Word!!! No, Dogs in today's vernacular would NOT be 'retards'. Dogs was a term used by Hebrews for the Gentile. Perhaps today the word would be "goyum" which is a word used today already. Or perhaps from the perspective of our saved Christian perspective, 'dogs' would translate to 'unsaved' or 'wicked'.

Grow up, you're dodging the point!

Lot's wife was turned to salt because her heart was with that wicked city of Sodom. That whole family had been corrupted! Look what the daughters thought was acceptable - getting their own father drunk and getting pregnant! And look at their offspring... Enemies of Israel! Lot himself was found at the city gates WHERE ELDERS OF THE CITY WOULD GATHER. He was one of them! His righteousness was in repenting and believing Christ when He came to rescue him.

Israel was not told to rape Canaan! Women could be taken as wives if I remember correctly. Canaan was wicked and after 400 years the inhabitants were still following Satan (just like the founders and major participants of this forum) in their wicked lives, so it was time to wipe them out and give the promised land to Israel. God never changes, He's going to wipe out the world again in judgement. Christ is returning with the the Sword of the Spirit - the Word of God - pouring out of His mouth! But John 3:17 says that He has come not to condemn but to save through Himself! That means we are in a time of mercy before His 2nd coming! Your forum is FILLED with condemnation and does not win souls!

Jesus was NOT a pansy and I never implied Him to be. I said He was COMPASSIONATE AND TENDER!!! YOU CAN BE STRONG AND STILL MAINTAIN COMPASSION AND TENDERNESS!!! HE'S BOTH THE LION OF JUDAH AND THE LAMB OF GOD!!! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS PICTURE?!?!

Take this site down, post a public apology and explanation, and repent!!!
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And who wrote Ephesians? Paul, the Apostle - Met Christ on the road to Damascus in his glory. I can honestly say I haven't met Christ in that powerful a way.. but neither have you. And neither has anyone else on this forum.

And who wrote to his disciple Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:16 where he said "ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD BREATHED...", again, PAUL, the same one so filled and submitted to the Holy Spirit that his mind and words were being guided along supernaturally while writing these letters for the strengthening and reproof of Christ's Body, the Church (fine, 20-40 years after Christ's ascension, so what!).!
Ah, you do not believe that Bible is the word of God, so obviously you are not a Christian. That is my fault that I did not realize that from the start.

You read the words, but you are blind to the truth. As 2 Timothy 3:16 clearly shows, it was not Paul that wrote Ephesians. Paul merely held the pen, Jesus did the writing. Just as in every bit of the Scripture.

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

So it's not Paul's opinion that women must subject to their husbands, it is a command from Jesus Himself.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

Anyway, you are mixing two different things here. Violence and discipline. It's not violence to discipline your wife or your children as God commands. It is in fact an act of love. We are also familiar with the cleansing power of bruises.

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Proverbs 20:30 The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.
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