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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 09:20 PM
Hi, This is Misty again. Who cares if I passed ouncuation class?!
Not me.
If [[YOUR]] God hates sinners, you once agian are going straight to hell.
My god,
Jesus Christ,
Loves everyone, ya know why?
Cause we are all his.
Even if we do sin. So what?!
We are only human, we aren't some kind of perfect doormat that your god uses to walk-on.
I am not a Baptist. Im Methodist. And I Love My God. NOT yours.
You must be worshiping a false god that you created just so you can judge everyone else.
Like I said earlier, You are a pathetic excuse for a what you call "preacher"
Your not.
Im so sorry for you.
Like misunderstood_woman said. Gothic is just a fashion not a religion.
I dare you to take one day to get to know me and misunderstood_woman, you would open your eyes to so much, instead of siting on a computer trying to scare parents like you are.
Im not that scary.
I normally alot of fun.
Just one day.
Ask anything you want. I'll answer.
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 09:22 PM
When did anyone say that God doesn't love sinners? With all due respect, Ma'am, it seems like you need to work on your reading comprehension. No one here said anything of the sort.
God hates the WICKED. That means the unrepentant sinners.
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 10:13 PM
ok...first of all i want to make it VERY CLEAR THAT I DO NOT WORSHIP THE DEVIL OR SATAN/NEVER HAVE/NEVER WILL before i continue...
i want to address some of these things...
-"wears band tee-shirts"...i have a bon jovi tee shirt...that doesnt mean that i worship the devil
-i have piercings and tattoos--that doesnt mean that i worship the devil
-i have many friends that own black clothing, as i do---NONE OF US WORSHIP THE DEVIL...WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT AT LENGTH BECAUSE I DONT LIKE TO ASSOCIATE WITH PPL THAT WORSHIP THE DEVIL EITHER
-i havent been to church since i was 7
-i've never read the bible
-i HAVE drank alcohol
-i have cut and burn myself in the past...i didnt do it because i was trying to avoid god, i did it because my father was beating me and my mother and throwing us down stairs and threatning to kill himself and i was sad...
--seriously..."complains of bordum"?? that means that your child sits at home too much and needs to get out more. IT MEANS THAT THEY'RE BORED...DUH...
--"Sleeps too excessively or too little"--I also have this problem where i'll sleep for 12 hours at a time if you let me...this has nothing to do with the devil, its called an underactive thryoid and i dont have the money for the meds to fix it.
-because of the sleeping for 12 hours at a time, this causes me to be "excessively awake during the night"..again, this has nothing to do with the devil
--and really...the thing with the cereal...come on...its whole grain cereal with marshmallows...just like lucky charms...theres nothing ungodly about that, its just grains and sugar...
i could go on and on forever, as i'm sure everyone has figured out. my point is, i'm 22 years old, i have experienced many of the things listed, know many people that have also experienced them, and NONE of these people are devil worshipers...many of them attend church regularly because they DO BELIEVE IN GOD AND RESPECT HIM AS HIGH BEING AND CREATER AND ALL MIGHTY AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOD IS SAID TO BE. the way you dress, the cereal you eat, the amount of sleep you get...this is rediculous. get a grip people...
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 10:33 PM
I would also like to address some things here. I'm not going to list and state them off word for word, but, I do many of those things, yet I still believe in God, have never claimed to worship the devil, and nor will I. I was always brought up with God, I'll die with God. I honestly think that this list should be greatly revised.
One other thing I won't understand, is, how does sleep have anything at all to do with it? I -have- to stay up late so that I can work, eat and survive. The only reason I don't like sunlight is not because I claim to bea vampire or not enjoy His light. It's because my eyes are no longer used to it. It hurts my eyes, and that's again because I have to work late, so I can survive. I've cut myself sure, but that was on accident. So if you meant the purposeful kind, then I apologize. I must have misread it.
In closing, I suppose I'm with the previous poster. I don't worship the devil, or one of his many names. I never have, nor will I.
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02-06-2008, 10:38 PM
I forgot to post this in my above post, apologies for double posting. I could not find the edit button.
I find it funny, that a Christian Church site would have a VampireGeeks ad:
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 10:44 PM
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I forgot to post this in my above post, apologies for double posting. I could not find the edit button.
I find it funny, that a Christian Church site would have a VampireGeeks ad:
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 10:46 PM
You can fix that, y'know.
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 10:56 PM
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Tell me, does this person look like she is a goth or going to hell?
(the one in the back)
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She looks like she's kidnapped a Down's Syndrome crip and is planning to sell it to the Muslims as an explosive. I hardly think that God would smile on that.
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hello,,, I am beautifulbloodsucker`s Mom .... PEACE..
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Well, no wonder beautifulbloodsucker grew up to be such an awful failure of a human being if her mom's a mongoloid (momgoloid?) I didn't even know people like that we allowed to breed.
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But what Misty was pointing out, is that God does NOT hate Goths. He loves them, because most do not sin against him. In fact, most go to church & involve themselves in youth.
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Prove it. Show us evidence that most hellbound goth scum go to Church. I'm waiting.
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Goth is a "fashion" not a way of life.
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Yet more goth lies.
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"They won't like me saying it, but their lifestyle, unlike the punk scene, is a middle-class sub culture,'' says Dunja Brill, who carried out the study.
Mia Joseph, 40, has been a goth since her early teens and says it is a way of life for her now. She runs a market stall specialising in gothic wear, leather and PVC.
"It's not about fitting in to a particular subculture, this is just my life. I'm beyond thinking of myself as a goth, I'm just me.
"There are characteristics in the study that I think are true, goths do tend to be peaceful and sensitive, interested in literature and it is a way of life for many that continues long into adulthood."
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I am thinking very seriously about banning her from this site because you really are not saying what I want her to hear ...... PEACE
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Hi, This is Misty again. Who cares if I passed ouncuation class?!
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ouncuation? Is that French for something?
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I am not a Baptist. Im Methodist. And I Love My God. NOT yours.
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Well, there we have it. Proof methodists worship a different "god" to real Christians. Straight from the goth/methodist's mouth.
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 10:59 PM
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In closing, I suppose I'm with the previous poster. I don't worship the devil, or one of his many names. I never have, nor will I.
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You aren't fooling anyone, gothtard. All goths worship the Devil. Here is a picture of some typical goths.
God is angry with you every day.
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 11:02 PM
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You aren't fooling anyone, gothtard. All goths worship the Devil. Here is a picture of some typical goths.
God is angry with you every day.
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I'm sorry, I don't remember where I've proven myself to be a goth or even come close to it.
So quick to pass judgement. Guess who frowns on that?
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 11:06 PM
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I'm sorry, I don't remember where I've proven myself to be a goth or even come close to it.
So quick to pass judgement. Guess who frowns on that?
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Friend, in 205 pages, the only people to post in this thread have been goths or Christians. And you certainly don't seem like a Christian to me.
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 11:15 PM
Perhaps you should brush up on your reading skills. I did post an introduction
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 11:19 PM
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Perhaps you should brush up on your reading skills. I did post an introduction
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Perhaps you should brush up on your reading skills. When you signed up for this Godly forum, you told us that you were over 18.
God hates liars with a passion, you arrogant little boy.
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-06-2008, 11:19 PM
Here is a little article I wrote about Goths,
Most teenagers go through various rebellious phases in their mid to late teens, you might say there is nothing new in that, since the 1950's we have seen teenagers being Rockers, Teddy boys, Mods, Punks, New Romantics, Ravers, etc. Its a phase that usually passes before they turn into normal members of society.
Yet since the mid 80's we have seen a new breed of teenagers turn into something far more sinister, The Goth ! These creatures of the night aren't normal teenagers going through a phase, they have been possessed by the Devil himself. They adorn themselves in black Victorian era clothing and look like extras from a Dracula film. Their skins are white, their hair is dark and weirdly cut (usually dyed black) they wear long black coats and even the men wear eye make-up (sure sign of being a Sodomite) They have piercings in the most unusual places which would even make the savages of Africa cringe with pain.
What are Goths ?
Well they are certainly not normal people, they believe in Nostradamus and the Doomsday book, their tiny minds are constantly in fantasy land dreaming of Anarchy and Dungeons and Dragons. Their youth is slowly eroding away whilst in a depressive suicidal state. Nothing can make these vile creatures smile, they are in a permanent sullen mood. (I have personally witnessed parents taking their little spawns of Satan on expensive holidays trying to coerce them back into reality, unfortunately their souls have long since belonged to the Devil. You can see the pain and shame on their parents suffering faces, they must be asking themselves where have they gone wrong, "why us"?
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Goths have a fascination with macabre subjects and an obsession with death. Their usual haunts are around church yards and grave yards, they don't like to mix with society. Majority come from troubled backgrounds whilst others are from well to do families. They usually adorn themselves in crucifix's which they see as pre-christian religious symbols, whilst others use various pagan symbols, however they definitely don't follow the Christian religion. Later in life they usually turn into Nazi's', drug addicts, rapists, murderers, Devil worshipers, kiddie fiddlers. abusers, and every other disgusting practice that the world has to offer.
If this was your son or daughter you would want to drown or shoot it !
Do you suspect that your son or daughter could be a Goth? is it always depressed, wears black clothes and has an obsession with wanting to sacrifice the family pet ? if this is the case you have a problem !
What can you do?
1) Repaint their bedroom from black into bright summer colours
2) Dye its hair blond
3) Burn all its black clothes
4) Smash all its Death Rock CD's and delete its hard drive on its PC. Destroy its DVD's of the Crow and any Dracula films it has
5) Force it under a sun bed or put it in the garden on a sunny day in its underwear. (put colour back into its skin)
6) Force it to laugh and enjoy itself, make it watch comedy or cartoons
7) Remove its piercings
8.) Pray to God and hope he forgives your foolish child for their sins, because they have committed acts according to the bible which carry the death penalty.
9) Keep it away from the local chapel of rest, (they see these places as a brothel) They are known to follow necrophilia.
10) Remove all sharp objects, lengths of cord/rope and any medicines in your house, some have totally been possessed and would easily take their own life.
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-07-2008, 03:57 AM
This is to Brother Temperance, the senior pastor. I do not appreciate you talking so rudely about my 6 year old sister. She is an adorable child, that I have brought God into her life.
John 3:16 "for God so loved THE WORLD, that he gave his only begotten son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should NOT perish, but have EVERLASTING life."
I have plenty of proof of Goths that are Christians! Methodists believe in the God almighty that made this Earth & that does not judge for outward appearance, but for the sins, hearts & souls.
As a senior minister, I would think you would know better then to speak such words of untruth & rudeness, do you honestly believe God wants you to treat others that way? You should know better.
Romans 12:19 "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves but rather give place unto wraith: for it is written, vengeance is mine; I will repay saith the Lord."
Matthew 12:36 "But I say unto you, that every idle word, that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of Judgment."
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02-07-2008, 04:59 AM
Wait! Hold up!
Someone said this tub of shi...........er crap is beautiful?
ROFLMAOWJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's just another over fed Gothtard!
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02-07-2008, 05:07 AM
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This is to Brother Temperance, the senior pastor. I do not appreciate you talking so rudely about my 6 year old sister.
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I understand that this was not addressed to me, but I want to take this opportunity to defend my dear Brother in Christ from your baseless accusations. The good Brother was speaking with discernment from the Holy Ghost, so I presume you have a better source? I happen to know that Brother T only speaks when being used as a mouthpiece for God, so I am giving you an opportunity to rescind your scathing words and ask forgiveness for your transgression.
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She is an adorable child, that I have brought God into her life.
John 3:16 "for God so loved THE WORLD, that he gave his only begotten son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should NOT perish, but have EVERLASTING life."
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This has to be the most over-used verse in the Bible. You're one of those wishy-washy people that can only quote the seemingly pansy verses of the Bible, forgetting about the other parts where God lists His abominations and finicky hatred for mixed clothings. Jesus did die so that everyone could have a chance at Heaven. Unfortunately, people like you choose to live your lives in direct opposition to His edicts. Certainly He isn't going to reward those who choose to spit in His eye? I'm afraid you, and millions of other self-labeled "Christians" are going to be in for a rude awakening come the Rapture when you are left behind.
As for your sister, I am not convinced of what makes her adorable. Obviously God has a problem with her, and therefore so do I. Don't expect to see such a glutton in Heaven. Jesus hates over-eaters and lazy good-for-nothings!
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21For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags.
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Well she's already clothed in rags, the Bible proven right once again
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I have plenty of proof of Goths that are Christians! Methodists believe in the God almighty that made this Earth & that does not judge for outward appearance, but for the sins, hearts & souls.
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Plenty of proof of Goths that are Christians? How can one be a Christian and worship Satan? Let's see what God has to say:
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Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
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As a senior minister, I would think you would know better then to speak such words of untruth & rudeness, do you honestly believe God wants you to treat others that way? You should know better.
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Accusing our dear Pastor of a lie is a serious offense, I assume you're ready to back that up! The Lord Jesus commands us to separate ourselves from those who believe anything but that which He commands (see my signature), and I believe that you should know better. It's all in the Bible, "hidden" between those namby-pamby verses you love to take out of context to make it seem like you're headed for Heaven.
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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? -
02-07-2008, 05:29 AM
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Friend, in 205 pages, the only people to post in this thread have been goths or Christians. And you certainly don't seem like a Christian to me.
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Wait! Hold up!
Someone said this tub of shi...........er crap is beautiful?
ROFLMAOWJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's just another over fed Gothtard!
Gawd, I love my visits here. I laugh til my sides split.
Look at those Hellbound whores! What couple of fat asses. Have they heard of Jenny Craig?
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It's pieces of SHIT like you who give Christians everywhere a bad name and cause most kids to become Goth by always judging them, making them think that God doesn't love them for who they are but for how they look. Instead of always talking about other people's faults, why dont you start by fixing your faults first or are you one of the many stuck-up assholes who believes they are oh so perfect in their little fantasy world?
I thank God for the suffering.
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