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  • Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

    She actually is my ex daughter-in-law, while she keeps calling me “unclie”.

    Her mother - my ex-wife’s older sister - lost her elderly, well-off husband way too soon. He died from heart stroke while performing his Christian duty (as per Genesis 1:28, Genesis 2:24, etc.). Some might call her life-style frivolous; unfortunately, God has cursed her by excessive “drive” (in terms of Ezekiel 23:19-20). On the other side, she’s very generous and forthcoming - in her own way. Anyway, I was offering some consolation to a poor woman after her loss. Later I even tried to substitute fatherly figure to her daughter. And no, I’m NOT her biological father - timing doesn’t match at all!

    I KNOW that I failed as a Christian (as per Proverbs 22:15, Hebrews 12:6); I’m praying to God for forgiveness and strength.

    I was trying to provide moral guidelines to her, but I was too weak. She was such a sweet child, even after she turned into a wild one – unfortunately, she has her mother’s nature… and stature by now. At her 18 she looks anything but childish.

    I wasn’t strict enough. I should’ve used a rod (as per Proverbs 22:15) instead of my bare hand – I thought that would do, but apparently it didn’t; even worse. She started openly defying my authority, dressing and behaving inappropriately in front of me – wearing parts of her mother’s not-overly-decent wardrobe, including excessive high heels. At first I thought that’s just a sign of youthful defiance, alas...

    Recently, I even tried to keep myself away from her; but SHE called me and asked with acted innocent voice “Unclie, don’t you care for your favorite niece anymore?” – like she was provoking me! I said to myself “That’s it; I’m going to teach her a lesson!”

    The whole ordeal reminds me on Genesis 19:32-34 and especially on Genesis 38:15-16 When Judah saw her, he thought her [to be] an harlot; because she had covered her face. And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; for he knew not that she [was] his daughter in law. And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me?

    She was expecting me dressed like a harlot – high heels and a stretchy dress that was barely covering her bubbly behind. She moaned “I wuz a bad, baaaad girl. I deserve to be punished, unclie!” From this point on everything was like in a blur; I don’t know how I got her bent over my knees, but she wasn’t wearing anything underneath her dress – for shame! I lost control; I stared punishing her really hard. Oh yes, she started to groan – not giggling as usually – but, unfortunately, not out of pain alone. Finally, I … had an “issue” (in terms of Ezekiel 23:20) without touching myself, I swear!

    I felt lost while she looked at me with a blissful expression on her face and said: “Unclie, don’t be sad, please; you did what you had to do. Oh look… you did a naughty thing down here! Me too!” Then she smirked at me and walked away. Just like that.

    The moral of this story should be: If you’d hit it, hit it hard ON TIME - before it’s too late.

    Pray for my soul, brothers and sisters, please. Yours advices are welcomed as well.

    YiC

    Dan
    Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.


    ... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)

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    Re: Disciplining my teenage daughter-in-law; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

    I am so sorry you had to go through this, Brother Dan. That sounds absolutely terrifying! I must admit, I felt the bile rising in my throat at around paragraph #8.

    This is a prime example of why children need some sense beaten into them EARLY, before they begin playing the harlot. I'm afraid it may be too late for this girl. However honorable your intentions were, I think your punishment just made things worse. Looks like your only hope is to find a strong husband to keep her under control, and fast!


    Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
    (Colossians 3:18)

    I will be praying that your stepdaughter finds the light of Jesus, and that you made a swift recovery from this humiliating and disgusting ordeal. Praise the Lord, and may He forgive you in full!

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      Re: Disciplining my teenage "niece"; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

      Originally posted by Jacob11 View Post
      ...I will be praying that your stepdaughter finds the light of Jesus, and that you made a swift recovery from this humiliating and disgusting ordeal. Praise the Lord, and may He forgive you in full!
      Brother, thank you for your payers and understanding.

      I guess my confused writings mislead you; she’s neither my stepdaughter nor my ex daughter-in-law (as I wrote). I’m not married to her mother - I’m just, um, consoling her for her loss (of elderly husband some 15 years ago). It takes time, you know.

      Initially I wrote “ex niece”, but it somehow didn’t sound right to me. Years of living in the Godless land of Eurabia are taking their toll on me. Indigenes here are speaking in tongues like in the Tower of Babel. For worse, many of them don’t even understand English – God’s favorite language - regardless how slow and loud you speak to them.

      For shame!
      Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.


      ... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)

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      • #4
        Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

        I'm afraid there is only one course of action you can take here. You must take her before the church elders, and stone her to death. First, for being a harlot and second, for tempting you into unholiness. She might even be a witch from what you've written.
        "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservant's do."
        (Leviticus 21:6-7)

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          Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

          Remember mark 9 43-50


          If I were in your position I would certainly Pray Night and day for our LORDS Forgiveness.

          If I were not worthy to receive His forgiveness. I would certainly be happy to enter the LORDS kingdom unwhole, Than quench in the eternal fiery depths of hell Begin poked my the devil with his pitchfork.

          And on your harlot ex daughter in law.
          "She moaned “I wuz a bad, baaaad girl. I deserve to be punished, unclie!”"

          She needs to be punished. In the olden days she would have met worldly end On a cross or begin stoned. And thats how things should be done even now days. But our society has turned their backs towards The glory of god and Cant see his righteus will clearly.


          I dont know what you should do to her so you wont get killed yourself. (wich would make you a martyr and it indeed would be glorious and show the wrongness of our society)


          Hmm. I suggest you either stone her or give her a good spanking and lock her in the cellar till she learns how to behave like a christian woman.
          Brininging true christianity ™ to the Eskimo wastelands of the north!

          Romans 14:1
          As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions.

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            Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

            Lot got drunk and impregnated both of his daughters, yet the New Testament tells us that Lot was a righteous man. If God could forgive Lot, I'm sure that He will forgive you, too.

            BTW, a large tithe never hurts in matters like this, especially if it takes the form of unmarked notes in an envelope. At least that's what Pastor Ezekiel keeps telling me when I screw up, and who knows more about sin than Pastor Ezekiel?
            The Christian Right: The Only Right Way to Be a Christian!

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            • #7
              Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

              Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
              Lot got drunk and impregnated both of his daughters, yet the New Testament tells us that Lot was a righteous man. If God could forgive Lot, I'm sure that He will forgive you, too.

              BTW, a large tithe never hurts in matters like this, especially if it takes the form of unmarked notes in an envelope. At least that's what Pastor Ezekiel keeps telling me when I screw up, and who knows more about sin than Pastor Ezekiel?
              Amen!
              Who Will Jesus Damn?

              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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              • #8
                Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

                Originally posted by Rev. Dr. Davidson View Post
                I'm afraid there is only one course of action you can take here. You must take her before the church elders, and stone her to death. First, for being a harlot and second, for tempting you into unholiness. She might even be a witch from what you've written.
                Originally posted by godismighty View Post
                She moaned “I wuz a bad, baaaad girl. I deserve to be punished, unclie!”
                She needs to be punished. In the olden days she would have met worldly end on a cross or begin stoned...
                No, NO! I mean, yes, of course she needs to be punished - but before stoning her…

                John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

                I’m not without sins; I should've used a rod (Proverbs 22:15). Maybe I should get stoned as back in the olden times. I can’t give up on her; just look at her, please:



                (from left to right: Uschi (my “niece”) and Ursula (her mother) wearing dirndls - traditional Alp-alachian attire)

                A poor girl is so attached to me; she’s still wants to seat in my lap as when she was a li’l girl (although her mother claims that she’s just competing with her – in this case for my attention). She never resented me for punishing her – she knows that’s my Christian duty; recently, she even confessed me her sins (as per 1 John 1:9-10) – oh God, she sinned, and how! – and suggested that I should use my rod in order to.. heal her from demons! Yes...

                It’s in their family; her mother is not only possessed by rectal demons - all her body cavities are infested by them; I was (still am) trying to cure her as well, but without much success thus far. My ex-wife (her sister) used a group of exorcists – against my knowledge! - to heal her; for what I know she still does.

                I might use some True Christian expertise and help; I’m facing a tough challenge and I’m not a young man anymore.

                Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
                Lot got drunk and impregnated both of his daughters, yet the New Testament tells us that Lot was a righteous man. If God could forgive Lot, I'm sure that He will forgive you, too.

                BTW, a large tithe never hurts in matters like this, especially if it takes the form of unmarked notes in an envelope. At least that's what Pastor Ezekiel keeps telling me when I screw up, and who knows more about sin than Pastor Ezekiel?
                Indeed, as per Genesis 19:35-36. Now, that seems like a sound advice.

                Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                Amen!
                Any hints, Pastor Ezekiel?
                Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.


                ... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)

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                  Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

                  I have had difficulty reading the thread, having to skip over some parts and am not about to make any sort of a suggestion. You're not in Liechtenstein are you?

                  There is a great difference between the wanton lust of an adulterous guttersnipe and the Pure love of Christ for His Church, as expressed in The Song Of Solomon. Here God tells us me how unlike the drunken and orgiastic vice of debauched secularist "lve" - fuelled by Swiss (or Russian depending on location) aphrodisiacs - His Perfect Love really is. The contrast between sober lips which worship and the drunken maw of Venus could not be clearer than in verse2 and I know that if I found myself in such a position the witness of a Godly man reading through the whole book, carefully pointing out the differences between the sotten saturnalia of Satan and the selfless sincerity of sacrifice in Him Romans 12:1 would be particularly beneficial. Of course I can't speak for others.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

                    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                    ...You're not in Liechtenstein are you?.
                    Close, but no cigars. I’d rather keep my exact location disclosed due to the stalkers; I already have enough problems without them.

                    There is a great difference between the wanton lust of an adulterous guttersnipe and the Pure love of Christ for His Church, as expressed in The Song Of Solomon...
                    Miss Lizalor, I wasn’t trying to suggest there isn’t any difference between an untamed lust driven by bestial instincts – as per Ezekiel 23:19-20 - and True Christian love.
                    Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.


                    ... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

                      Originally posted by Dan U. Holier View Post
                      ..I wasn’t trying to suggest there isn’t any difference between an untamed lust ..and True Christian love.
                      Oh I know that Mr Holier; I was just saying that if I was confused (which I'm not) then The Song Of Solomon would have been a good place to start with me (in explaining my error). But should you consider doing the same with that daughter, it might be best if the mother were there too: she may be able to raise points (knowing her daughter) which you had overlooked. I can tell from the photo that those two might be a devious outfit. And that you would have a versatile response.

                      How different from the blinkered secularist the True Christian man.

                      Proverbs 20:27
                      I John 1:7

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                      • #12
                        Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

                        Both you and your niece must repent and pray for forgivness. As previous speaker said, pray night and day.

                        I will say a prayer for you and your niece´s forgivness.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                          ... But should you consider doing the same with that daughter, it might be best if the mother were there too: she may be able to raise points (knowing her daughter) which you had overlooked. I can tell from the photo that those two might be a devious outfit. And that you would have a versatile response.
                          Miss Lizalor, it took me some time to contemplate your advices and apply them in practice. I need to say you truly are an expert on this scope: mother’s assistance at guiding the proverbial Lord’s candle while searching all inward parts of the belly (as per Proverbs 20:27) of my protégé’s demon infested body came very handy. I had some second thoughts, but Ursula (mother) was encouraging me knowing that her daughter is strong enough to endure any kind of healing (as she was at her age). Indeed she is:


                          (from left to right: Uschi, as usually, competing with her mother for their favorite position - on the balcony in this case)

                          Although we didn’t leave any of Uschi’s body cavities untreated, we set our focus analytically on the dry place (as per Matthew 12:43) not giving the unclean spirit any rest. During the process we heard Uschi fighting her demons shouting the God’s name and lewd words consecutively. Her mother (experienced with her own unclean spirits) recognized her attitude a sign of the oral demon and demanded from me to treat it using my rod (as per Proverbs 22:15) without hesitations. I did it while shouting “Glory”!

                          Uschi passed this treatment with excellence; not even a drop of the remedy came out of her mouth (as per Matthew 15:11) she knew the scripturally correct way without me telling her that specifically. Her mother was very proud of her, saying: “she’s so mature for her age!”
                          Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.


                          ... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)

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                          • #14
                            Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

                            Central Europe gave us Sigmund Freud & C. G. Jung between which two peaks of libidinous demonolatry any depravity may be normalised if not actively encouraged.

                            Here the demonic anima v. animus "conflict" is described

                            When we become conscious of these inner contra-sexual figures, their energy can strengthen and support our endeavors, opening us to new areas of thinking, feeling, and expression. When these figures remain unconscious, however, they can sabotage our efforts for growth and fulfillment.
                            I am so glad to learn that you are standing firm before this onslaught from Satan - an onslaught of the most repugnant kind - Mr Holier, I think you are brave indeed an example to us all.

                            Proverbs 27:16
                            Romans 8:33


                            Praise God !

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                            • #15
                              Re: Disciplining my teenage niece; your thoughts and prayers welcomed!

                              As a child I was taught this prayer:
                              God mighty.
                              God is cruel.
                              And now we thank him
                              For our gruel.
                              This was repeated before every meal, and others were used throughout the day.
                              She may be too old for this one, but it is an old favorite.
                              May she find peace in the Lord, and her demons be chased out through her rectum! (she might like that though, so let's pray it's through her nose, or something less 'pleasurable' to a tortured soul like her's.
                              Will not be sent to Hell, and proud of it!

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