[Elmer G. White]

The power of Jesus is Tremendous. Brethren, I give you a small demonstration of the Power of Prayer! The Unsaved Person who is persecuting us at this very moment had some trouble with his capitals.

Originally Posted by Nauseous Succotash

and besides rain and wind have nothing to do with satan or disrespecting jesus christ. (my caps lock and shift keys are broken so don't send the grammar and capitalization police after me.)

Indeed, this can be annoying, and apparently the sinner was unable to rectify this problem himself, which is no surprise (John 9:31). So I prayed and asked Jesus to help this poor fellow by any means He considered suitable.

Here are the results!

Originally Posted by Nauseous Succotash

First off, whoever said I gave up Overwatch? I play the game, have 115 hours logged on it. Secondly, I'm trying to remain neutral but you people keep trying to push me to take sides. (And how was answering Handmaiden's question being passive-aggressive?)

Instant results with True Christian™ intervention. Dear Sinner, we can do the same for your Soul if you just open up to the Gospel and listen to our teachings that come directly from the most infallible source imaginable, Jesus Christ!

Matthew 21:22
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

This was just a tiny demonstration of what we can do. The Big Thing is Heaven! It is available, as well.




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Nauseous Succotash]

This is like online TOS. This is so annoying to deal with, ad the end of it all, I'm wondering what the point of it is.

Freedom for everyone pls

[Elmer G. White]

Originally Posted by Nauseous Succotash

This is like online TOS. This is so annoying to deal with, ad the end of it all, I'm wondering what the point of it is.

Freedom for everyone pls

What on Earth has the Thoracic Outlet Syndrome (TOS) got to do with this stupid but extremely harmful video game? Of course, it is annoying, but still.

Thoracic outlet syndrome is a group of disorders that occur when blood vessels or nerves in the space between your collarbone and your first rib (thoracic outlet) are compressed. This can cause pain in your shoulders and neck and numbness in your fingers.
Common causes of thoracic outlet syndrome include physical trauma from a car accident, repetitive injuries from job- or sports-related activities, certain anatomical defects (such as having an extra rib), and pregnancy.

Actually, sorry, my bad. Excessive gaming (sport) is included in the etiology. Seems that is is among the many sin-derived ailments that could be cured so easily.

James 5:14
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

One more reason for you to quit the sinful gaming and choose Jesus.


Interestingly, the extra rib is mentioned among the many causes of this manifestation of sin (TOS) in the citation above. I must dwell upon this for a bit, as this must be among one of the worst birth defects that sinful ancestors can transmit to their offspring (Exodus 20:5). We know that men by Biblical definition have fewer ribs than women.

Genesis 2:22
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

By opposing this wonderful act of Creation that started the cycle of begetting, the sinners who suffer from this condition must be among the ones punished in the most severe manner in Hell. I am now quite certain that many players of this game may harbor extra ribs.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Nauseous Succotash]

online TOS is a pretty common abbreviation for Terms of Service.

[Elmer G. White]

Originally Posted by Nauseous Succotash

online TOS is a pretty common abbreviation for Terms of Service.

I'm still more than a bit worried and would like to know if you have the extra rib (24 as women do) or 23 as normal True Christian™ men have. We could help you.

Genesis 2:21
And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;




Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Nauseous Succotash]

What does my health have anything to do with this place being bland and generic like how terms of service agreements are online?

[Elmer G. White]

Originally Posted by Nauseous Succotash

What does my health have anything to do with this place being bland and generic like how terms of service agreements are online?

Everything is about your Spiritual health, that is often manifested as "birth defects" that are caused by the sins of your forefathers. This Site has everything to do with that! All our threads are about the desperate need of the Sinners to find Jesus Christ in the correct manner (Ecclesiastes 12:13). The practical method for this Magnificent Effort is to show the sinning majority how their everyday activities (such as excessive gaming instead of 1 Thessalonians 5:17) oppose Jesus and cause them to lose any Spiritual health.

It's all about that!

We're here to glorify Jesus and worship Him and all the posts here are targeted at that wonderful goal. This may make life here on Earth seem blend and exhausting to you, but that is totally unimportant. The only thing that matters is Eternity and how to make people see the Light that is Jesus (John 1:5).

Jesus has told us personally to work this way! We are the last remaining shining light of Hope and Glory on this sin-ridden Creation (Romans 8:22).

Matthew 5:15-16
Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Nauseous Succotash]

Last I checked, I'm not being forced to disclose that to you, nor am I going to

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Nauseous Succotash

Last I checked, I'm not being forced to disclose that to you, nor am I going to

Now, stamp your widdle feet and hold your breath 'til you turn blue.




























Please.

[Lukas J Watson]

Maan... Christians are so idiotic and dumb xD :jesus :

[MitzaLizalor]

Just a quick, but thorough, recap for anyone actually interested in how to express their opinions and not be ignored as an ignoramus.

1 An interesting claim was made

Originally Posted by dotty

you believe so heavily on some thousand year old book that mind you could have been changed heavily over the past thousand years I mean a lot can change in just ten years let alone 2017 years

I've highlighted the salient features. Now I would be concerned if the basis for my whole life were based on unreliable information. This would be the most serious challenge I'd ever faced. So I asked for more information. A single example would be devastating for me.

2 A request for some evidence

No evidence was forthcoming despite my inclusion of links to various examples of Scriptural text from various dates such as 2,000 years ago, 1,000 years ago, currently available English text and a sample Hebrew text for comparison with each link containing full references to the rest of the Biblical text internally linked.

3 An example of how to structure a reply presented

If you'd like to try something more substantial you could try an adult technique, one which garners credibility, that I call supporting claims with evidence. I've found that when I neglect this essential element in any discussion my credibility disappears altogether. Do you recall the following claim?

Your reply could begin:

The Bible has been changed heavily over the past thousand years in the following ways:

• example verse from 1,000 years ago:.............................
• example verse from yesterday:......................................

and so on for other verses and books. Remember that you need to show passages which have changes A LOT, not just a "pe" dropping off "shoppe" say.

Originally Posted by Nauseous Succotash

(Confused face) What exactly went down here?

4 Quick explanation for Nauseous

Hi. Thank you for showing an interest. We (rational humans) require some sort of supporting material when claims are made. It doesn't need to be very good, just the act of looking for something trains the thought processes and a gentle comment that what's proffered is not very persuasive often encourages a more discriminating enquiry. That can only be beneficial.

I'll give a quick example. Say I claimed "all lions have wings" and just stopped there. Now if you'd never seen a lion would you take my word for it?

5 Nauseous responds

You first insult my intelligence and then expect me to not ignore you. Classy. Why do I even try with these people? Demand respect but gives none in return. People say that I'm inept. Better direct 'em here for a new definition of that word. It's a symbol for a hurricane. Y'know, rain, wind, that deal. Why's everyone so concerned about me anyway? and besides rain and wind have nothing to do with satan or disrespecting jesus christ. (my caps lock and shift keys are broken so don't send the grammar and capitalization police after me.) First off, whoever said I gave up Overwatch? I play the game, have 115 hours logged on it. Secondly, I'm trying to remain neutral but you people keep trying to push me to take sides. (And how was answering Handmaiden's question being passive-aggressive?) Because I'm just watching this place (don't take that the wrong way) cos a friend told me bout it. And I'm the one who's wrong and I'm the one who has to choose sides. Honestly, if you people make a thread slamming Overwatch (not saying specifically you, Mary), all opinions should be open for discussion either for, against, or neutral to the situation. Jeez, can't even take a friendly suggestion. If all of you truly were Bible believers, then every message against others wouldn't generically end with some form of saying they'll burn in hell. Even more so, this thread and the even-more cancerous Team Fortress 2 thread from a long time back shouldn't even exist. General point of my presence here: Live up to the words you speak. And to the people who show to defend Overwatch. Let 'em say their piece. You people say your piece. That's it. This is so generically bad lol. What kind of cultists do you people pass as? And last anyone sane or right in the head checked, everyone has a reason to be here on this world. That's what nobody here seems to grasp. And it's truly shocking people can't understand. Nobody is that high and mighty that they detest everyone like they're 1700s slave labor. If they are then they're destined to live a very lonely and painful life. I read it all but this cesspool ain't no church or even a forum at this point. I know Baptists. This is just extremists being absolutely ridiculous. I'm perfectly fine here. I.Q. 119 (taken 3 weeks ago), so before people go saying my brain's rotting do a little bit of research and stop slamming people and then proceeding to cower behind a shield that supposedly is "God" 24/7. Why should I? Your Bible Shield is so omnipotent that it ain't even worth going to all the trouble to do that and then see you people just shut down any word I wind up typing. You people say everything with the bible. (Intentionally left that way) Not everything involves the bible. It's a simple concept nobody here (exc. the people who have been banned apparently) seems to grasp. This is like online TOS. This is so annoying to deal with, ad the end of it all, I'm wondering what the point of it is. Freedom for everyone pls online TOS is a pretty common abbreviation for Terms of Service. What does my health have anything to do with this place being bland and generic like how terms of service agreements are online? Last I checked, I'm not being forced to disclose that to you, nor am I going to

6 What about the lion?

Imagine you're trapped in a pit. There is a lion. Eventually you'll both tire of the novelty. "I'll be OK," you'd think. "All lions have wings it will fly out of the pit." In reality, a reality you should have determined by looking for evidence of claims, lions don't have wings. Then it eats you.

EXAMPLE

Believing that lions are friendly and even if they're not by offering oneself for marriage duties one would surely earn the protection due to a spousal partner an unnamed moron leaps into the lions enclosure. See how he offers himself! Surely the lion will succumb! Well the lion may share the Overwatch standard for matrimony but then you'd not only be dealing with an amorous lion but a jealous lioness to boot. Would she eat the moron before or after the connubial event? Or both eat him together.

Neither lion was going to fly out out of the enclosure to avoid social embarrassment and both of them had to be shot. Seems like a waste of lions to me but there it is and here is a news report of the occasion; there are others if you do a search:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/517318/man-strips-naked-jumps-lion-enclosure-Metropolitan-Zoo-Santiago-Chile-survives

7 Eternity

Waiting for sub-rationals to present evidence supporting claims might seem like an eternity but it's nothing compared to the real thing. And my eternity is at stake here.

Am I following a text that's changed a lot over the past 1,000 years? I don't think so but that is the claim.

Should I give up on The Bible and switch to The Upanishads or the ravings of MacGregor Mathers? As it stands The Bible is clear. Such blasphemies lead directly to Hell. Its torments and its gnashing teeth and it's time to put me out of my misery.

Can The Bible be trusted or not? That is the issue here. And to determine its veracity the skills of critical thinking are essential. I hope the information in this thread show how to approach the question.

You don't have to agree with The Bible, obviously if you don't you are not a Christian, but first it's necessary to know A what it says and B if it's true.

The answer is obvious once you read it but as with all topics in order to mount a CREDIBLE challenge you MUST SHOW EVIDENCE FOR YOUR POSITION.

[LividWithTheLord]

Right, if someone can prove to that God is real and that the bible was written truthfully then ill convert right now. Also about Jesus sacrificing himself for our sins, did he know he was gonna come back to life and if so does that actually make it a sacrifice?

[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by LividWithTheLord

Right, if someone can prove to that God is real and that the bible was written truthfully then ill convert right now. Also about Jesus sacrificing himself for our sins, did he know he was gonna come back to life and if so does that actually make it a sacrifice?

The point of the sacrifice is that--according to the Bible--God requires a blood offering to wash away sins. Animal blood during the Temple period couldn't do the job permanently. The job could only be completed once and for all by a sinless offering, which is where Jesus comes in.


Now, where Jesus goes out, as in dying--and why that amounts to any kind of sacrifice at all, what with Him knowing that He would be resurrected and all-- you have to remember that Jesus didn't have to experience the pain of mortal death; He chose to.


I know that movie with Tom Cruise makes dying seem kind of like just falling asleep and coming back the way Bill Murphy did in Groundhog Day (basically the same movie, but one has more guns) but from what I hear, it's actually a little less pleasant.


Tell you what--why don't you volunteer to be tortured and killed, and we will have doctors on hand to revive you immediately. Then you can tell us if feeling your life force drain from you is no biggie.


Also the point of the Bible is to have faith, if it could be proven, who in their right mind wouldn't choose a get out of hell free card?


Pro Bonoly Yours,
Handmaiden

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Originally Posted by LividWithTheLord

Right, if someone can prove to that God is real and that the bible was written truthfully then ill convert right now. Also about Jesus sacrificing himself for our sins, did he know he was gonna come back to life and if so does that actually make it a sacrifice?

If you don't think that being crucified on a cross to death is not a sacriice then you obviously have never experienced the kind of pain that Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself experienced.

He put Himself through that pain so that He could bear the wages of Our Sin against Him for being being born sinners in His Image.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Do you see now?

YIC

[Pim Pendergast]

Originally Posted by LividWithTheLord

Right, if someone can prove to that God is real . . . then ill convert right now.

The existence of the God of the Bible is clearly revealed in nature.

Ps 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Rom 1:19 -20
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse . . .

Photographic evidence

The heavens:



Creation:



See?

Originally Posted by LividWithTheLord

Right, if someone can prove . . . that the bible was written truthfully then ill convert right now.

The majesty (Hos 8:12; 1 Cor 2:6-7, 13; Ps 119:18, 129), purity (Ps 12:6; 119:140), coherence (Acts 10:43; 26:22), power (Acts 18:28; Heb 4:12) and purpose of the Scriptures (Rom 3:19, 27), along with the testimony of the Holy Spirit (Jn 16:13-14; 1 Jn 2:20, 27), clearly demonstrate that the Bible is God's Word.

I expect you'll be converting now. Simply pray the following:

Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior. In Your Name.

Amen.

[Basilissa]

If I may humbly add to the photographic evidence so kindly offered by Dr. Pendergrast, here is the Hand of God as photographed by NASA.

Here is the original photo (larger, better resolution) and description from NASA:

[LividWithTheLord]

Originally Posted by Pim Pendergast

The existence of the God of the Bible is clearly revealed in nature.

Ps 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Rom 1:19 -20
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse . . .

Photographic evidence

The heavens:



Creation:



See?



The majesty (Hos 8:12; 1 Cor 2:6-7, 13; Ps 119:18, 129), purity (Ps 12:6; 119:140), coherence (Acts 10:43; 26:22), power (Acts 18:28; Heb 4:12) and purpose of the Scriptures (Rom 3:19, 27), along with the testimony of the Holy Spirit (Jn 16:13-14; 1 Jn 2:20, 27), clearly demonstrate that the Bible is God's Word.

I expect you'll be converting now. Simply pray the following:

Now im not saying the Holy Bible isnt the word of God, but how do we knows its not a story written by people over the years. There are many things in the bible which give wise teachings, but there are others which i would disagree with. For example if a man rapes a woman, why would the father then sell their daughter to them?

[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by LividWithTheLord

Now im not saying the Holy Bible isnt the word of God, but how do we knows its not a story written by people over the years. There are many things in the bible which give wise teachings, but there are others which i would disagree with. For example if a man rapes a woman, why would the father then sell their daughter to them?

Because the Bible tells them so. And it is the Word of God. Believers know this because the Bible repeatedly asserts that it is the Word of God. True Believers™ know that the whole Bible needs to valued with the same weight from cover to cover.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That's ALL scripture, not random or select parts of it. All of it is given to humanity by God, and all its instructions further the journey towards righteousness.

Inclusively Yours,
Handmaiden

[TheEnemyOfGod]

I am extremely sorry, but you know absolutely nothing about the game of Overwatch. I am a believer myself, but I genuinely do not know what Holy Bible you read. In the first place, you talked about "Marcie"- Mercy, being Satan herself, and about her actually having powers greater than God's because she is able to ressurect people. THAT IS soooo piffleed upppp. You really do not know how to approach a game. You have to understand that a game is a game, you won't be able to change amything, because there are millions of people playing Overwatch worldwide., and the developer The Holy Blizzard Entertainment, made the game with absolutely no intention to be offensive to anyone.
Secondly, assigning "Sarah"- Pharah, to being a Muslim Terrorist is very retarted. I do agree that muslim terrorists do exist, but not all the muslims are radical. You can't just go around saying that.
Thirdly, Reaper("Creeper"), which you actually called the closest being to Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour, is really wrong, since he looks like a ghost because he is in a near death state at all times, and wepl, when using his Ultimate Attack, he literraly shouts "Die, Die, Die!!!" how could someone like him be any close to Jesus Christ??
And lastly, Mr Poppendorfer!!! You shouldn't have put magnets in your son's PC case. The parts were at least 500$, and you literraly broke EVERYTHING!!!
That is my opinion. Sorry for not first posting on the Introduction Forum, i was way to busy to write this!!
Anyway you value your "Christianity" as much as Hitler valued genocide!! This is getting to be fanatic . You MUST BE STOPPED( AND TRY TO TELL ME TO BURN IN HELL)

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by TheEnemyOfGod

I am extremely sorry...

No, you're not. Lying to people is not a good way to convince them of the truth of your argument.

...I am a believer myself...

In what?

...but I genuinely do not know what Holy Bible you read...

Authorized King James: the 1900 is usually quoted for ease of understanding, but the 1611 is the reference.

...The Holy Blizzard Entertainment...

The what now?

...made the game with absolutely no intention to be offensive to anyone...

Must be awesome to know everyone's motivations without having the courtesy to, I don't know, maybe ask them?

...Secondly, assigning "Sarah"- Pharah, to being a Muslim Terrorist is very retarted...

Hear that dripping noise? It's the irony.

...Thirdly, Reaper("Creeper"), which you actually called the closest being to Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour, is really wrong, since he looks like a ghost because he is in a near death state at all times, and wepl, when using his Ultimate Attack, he literraly shouts "Die, Die, Die!!!" how could someone like him be any close to Jesus Christ??...

Go read Revelation.

...And lastly, Mr Poppendorfer!!! You shouldn't have put magnets in your son's PC case. The parts were at least 500$, and you literraly broke EVERYTHING!!!...

That Mr. Poppendorfer paid for. What gives you the right to dictate how others treat their own property?

...That is my opinion...

If you want any traction here, post the Scripture that shows God agrees with you.

...Sorry for not first posting on the Introduction Forum, i was way to busy to write this!!...

More lies.

...Anyway you value your "Christianity" as much as Hitler valued genocide!!...

Godwin fail.

...You MUST BE STOPPED...

Stopped from what? Allowing you to express your opinion on their website?

Fine with me.

...( AND TRY TO TELL ME TO BURN IN HELL)

No one here has the power (or desire) to send you to Hell. God does that (according to the Bible).