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Question Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race? - 04-11-2015, 12:11 AM

I have a genuine question, I do not mean this as satirical or sarcasm but is there any chance of me getting into heaven by the things I am reading in this forum.
Let me explain a little bit about myself. I am a British person who is mixed race. My mother being born in South Africa while my Father is English.
I have always been raised Church of England and I have always tried to be very faithful to the bible and when I have failed I have prayed for my sins and repented.
I cannot help it I was born mixed race so it hardly seems fair that I've been a good Christian but I would be refused to Heaven because of my skin.
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Default Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race? - 04-11-2015, 12:28 AM

Did you read the instructions for this forum?

"Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus."

When you've complied with those simple words, perhaps someone will tell you whether your soul is doomed for eternal hellfire.

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Default Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race? - 04-11-2015, 12:38 AM

My apologies, my name is Akima or "Kim" for short. My church is the Diocese of St Albans and my favourite bible verse is:
Deuteronomy 31:6
Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you."
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Default Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race? - 04-11-2015, 12:44 AM

Where you are born does not matter. From whom your were does.
If your father lay with a Hamite, then you are impure and cannot got to Heaven. Do not fret, most people do not. However, that does not preclude the need to praise God. How devoted you are to Him, even if you are a female, a beast or a darkie, defines the level of suffering you will have to endure for all of eternity.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
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Default Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race? - 04-11-2015, 12:50 AM

But yet it is not my fault for being born mixed race? (Please do not call me a "darkie" that is an offensive outdated term that needs to be forgotten) I believe I am a good Christian, I go to church, I pray, I repent when I have done wrongdoing. Why should the actions of my father cause me to suffer in Hell? I will admit I am young so it may come across as inexperienced and naive which I probably am. I cannot control my skin colour no more I can control where I was born, so why would this affect me going to Heaven?
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But yet it is not my fault for being born mixed race? (Please do not call me a "darkie" that is an offensive outdated term that needs to be forgotten) I believe I am a good Christian, I go to church, I pray, I repent when I have done wrongdoing. Why should the actions of my father cause me to suffer in Hell? I will admit I am young so it may come across as inexperienced and naive which I probably am. I cannot control my skin colour no more I can control where I was born, so why would this affect me going to Heaven?
Hi Kim, and welcome to our friendly forums! If I might suggest, don't get uppity with your betters. Mr. Hutchins here is only helping you. He's a busy man, and so his time is valuable. You would do well to respect his contribution.

Please consider we don't make the rules. We only learn them, praise them, glorify them, follow them, and share them with others! I hope you'll join us!

The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
Numbers 14:18

Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me
Deuteronomy 5:9


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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But yet it is not my fault for being born mixed race? (Please do not call me a "darkie" that is an offensive outdated term that needs to be forgotten) I believe I am a good Christian, I go to church, I pray, I repent when I have done wrongdoing. Why should the actions of my father cause me to suffer in Hell? I will admit I am young so it may come across as inexperienced and naive which I probably am. I cannot control my skin colour no more I can control where I was born, so why would this affect me going to Heaven?
No, it probably is not your fault. You are paying the price for your parents hatred of Jesus and mandingo fornication like animals. Just like a retard or cripple has to pay the price of the sins of the parent.
Give unto Jesus and He will (if He is inclined) minimize your suffering in Hell. However, you claim to still commit wrongdoing. God sees through these 'six sinner days' and does not accept your shame. While as a nigra (see, I am reflecting your request) you probably cannot help your failures. It is simply how you people are.
Repenting is a catlick statement. Catholickers are not Christians.


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Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race? - 04-11-2015, 12:59 AM

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Hi Kim, and welcome to our friendly forums! If I might suggest, don't get uppity with your betters. Mr. Hutchins here is only helping you. He's a busy man, and so his time is valuable. You would do well to respect his contribution.

Please consider we don't make the rules. We only learn them, praise them, glorify them, follow them, and share them with others! I hope you'll join us!

The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
Numbers 14:18

Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me
Deuteronomy 5:9
I wasn't getting uppity...I admitted I was inexperienced and naive and I needed clarification and guidance. Nowhere in the Bible does it state Jesus' appearance until after his resurrection. Who is to say that Jesus was not a man with colour that isn't white?
It was a genuine question, why would things out of my control stop me going to Heaven? If God is preferential to white folk then why not make the entire human race white?
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My apologies, my name is Akima or "Kim" for short. My church is the Diocese of St Albans and my favourite bible verse is:
Deuteronomy 31:6
Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you."
No need for apologies. Sorry to hear you're headed for damnation.

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My apologies, my name is Akima or "Kim" for short. My church is the Diocese of St Albans and my favourite bible verse is:
Deuteronomy 31:6
Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you."

You are the second person this evening to appear here and quote from a false bible.


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Bible Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race? - 04-11-2015, 01:03 AM

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I wasn't getting uppity...I admitted I was inexperienced and naive and I needed clarification and guidance. Nowhere in the Bible does it state Jesus' appearance until after his resurrection. Who is to say that Jesus was not a man with colour that isn't white?
It was a genuine question, why would things out of my control stop me going to Heaven? If God is preferential to white folk then why not make the entire human race white?
Friend, borrow a Christian Bible and read about Hamites.

Genesis 9:18-27

18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.
19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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I understand that I'm already going to Hell because I'm mixed but my question still wasn't answered. If God is preferential to white people why not create the whole human race white? If God loves me and I him I still do not see why I should not be allowed to Heaven and as for being Catholic, I love and worship God so I do not see why that would change how He feels about Catholics. There are many branches of Christianity, no one can prove which is the correct path to take as we all believe we are right.
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I wasn't getting uppity...
You are again.

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I admitted I was inexperienced and naive and I needed clarification and guidance. Nowhere in the Bible does it state Jesus' appearance until after his resurrection. Who is to say that Jesus was not a man with colour that isn't white?
We have Proof that Jesus is white.

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It was a genuine question, why would things out of my control stop me going to Heaven? If God is preferential to white folk then why not make the entire human race white?
God is preferential to those who fear and obey Him (Ecclesiastes 12:13). He considers those who love Him (John 14:15), and will dismiss those who fail to love Him (James 2:10). God is preferential to those He calls according to His Glory (Romans 8:29), and your demanding Him to justify Himself to you is as insolent and arrogant as a toddler demanding his mother to justify why she expects him to eat his vegetables. Where's your respect for Christ? He suffered a terrible weekend for the Redemption of Mankind, and this is how you repay Him? By demanding He answer Himself to you? Demanding He satisfy your sense of moral code?

The nerve of you people.


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Default Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race? - 04-11-2015, 01:19 AM

That is not proof, that is speculation. As I said earlier, there is no description of Jesus in the Bible in his earthly form.

Regardless of his skin colour, what he accomplished for us by dying for his sins, surely his skin colour does not matter?

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...he accomplished for us by dying for his sins...
I hope that was a typo, otherwise you really aren't getting this "Christianity" stuff.

Yeah, an immortal guy "died" (for two and a half-ish days, then He got better) to pay the price (to Himself) for the sins we commit (which are only sins because He says they are), so we owe Him blind obedience and eternal praise.

Seems legit.


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Regardless of his skin colour, what he accomplished for us by dying for his sins, surely his skin colour does not matter?
You're presumptuous as well. Read Pastor Zeke's sermon on the matter:

Jesus Did NOT Die For Everyone's Sins!


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Default Re: Could I go the heaven if I am mixed race? - 04-11-2015, 02:47 AM

Why don't you pull out your KJV Bible and read it?

Ezra 10:2-3 2 And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing. 3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law

Your father should have abandoned you and your mother, to keep sweet with the Lord.


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I understand that I'm already going to Hell because I'm mixed but my question still wasn't answered. If God is preferential to white people why not create the whole human race white? If God loves me and I him I still do not see why I should not be allowed to Heaven and as for being Catholic, I love and worship God so I do not see why that would change how He feels about Catholics. There are many branches of Christianity, no one can prove which is the correct path to take as we all believe we are right.
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That is not proof, that is speculation. As I said earlier, there is no description of Jesus in the Bible in his earthly form.

Regardless of his skin colour, what he accomplished for us by dying for his sins, surely his skin colour does not matter?
I must agree with by Brethren and sister Mary. There is absolutely no reason to debate Jesus or try to negotiate with Him. You just have to accept His Commands and Anger.

That said, I offer you hope. In your present state as a Hamite you are not eligible for Heavenly joys but through prayer you can change. I have even published a scholarly report on the prayer healing of skin pigment challenges.

Isaiah 1:18
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.


This will not happen unless you really repent in your heart and follow in the footsteps of Jesus. If you persist, you might one day be not be 'mixed race' any more but as white as Jesus.



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I understand that I'm already going to Hell because I'm mixed but my question still wasn't answered. If God is preferential to white people why not create the whole human race white? If God loves me and I him I still do not see why I should not be allowed to Heaven and as for being Catholic, I love and worship God so I do not see why that would change how He feels about Catholics. There are many branches of Christianity, no one can prove which is the correct path to take as we all believe we are right.


Apparently "god" doesn't love everyone and that's why he didn't make all humans white.

But since he isn't real, it doesn't matter


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For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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I'm extremely sure that race has nothing to do with going to heaven, as it is based solely on how well you followed the lords teachings and how clean and pure your soul is.

THATS why Jesus died for our sins people, to make a covenant from his blood with god to be forgiven from all for sins


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