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Default Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-04-2007, 01:54 PM

Praise Jesus, it does my heart good to read stories like THIS one.

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Literal interpretation of Bible is illustrated

February 3, 2007

SANTEE – Leafy, plastic vines climb the walls. Fake tree branches dangle overhead. The piped-in sound of croaking frogs fills the air. Windows in the walls give a view to colorful finches, a shiny scorpion, even a python named Cuddles.

Each year, about 15,000 visitors come to Santee's only museum, deemed the world's largest creationist museum by the Northwest Creation Network. (A much larger, $27 million creationist museum under construction in Kentucky will soon snatch the title.)

Folks may say they believe in evolution, but they don't really buy that humans came from other creatures, said John D. Morris, president of the Institute for Creation Research, which runs the free-admission museum.

“You cannot convince a kid they came from a fish,” he said. “Kids know better and people know better.”

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If you go: The Museum of Creation and Earth History is at 10946 Woodside Ave. N. in Santee. The museum is open from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Monday through Saturday. Admission is free. Information: (619) 596-6011.

What the museum teaches: God created the universe in six days, as described in the Bible, from 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. The first humans were created by God, and all men and women are their descendants. A worldwide flood changed Earth's climate and geography and left behind beds of fossils. Among the evidence that the flood existed: “Fossil graveyards” have been found all over the world indicating rapid burial, and water-laid formations and marine fossils exist nearly everywhere on Earth, including all the high continental plateaus and mountain ranges of the world.

What evolution says: Earth has evolved over 4.55 billion years. Humans evolved from primates, with the first humanlike species, Homo neanderthalensis and Homo sapiens, appearing about 250,000 years ago. Radiometric dating has found rocks older than 3.5 billion years on all of Earth's continents; the oldest rocks are at least 4.3 billion years old. Society depends and operates on the process of evolution, from the development of better crops to effective antibiotics. Modern bacteria, for example, are resistant to medicines such as early penicillin because of evolutionary adaptation and survival.
A group of uniformed parochial school students was an eager audience at the museum one recent weekday morning. A chorus of “whoas” and “wows” followed as they wandered into the gardenlike room, which is devoted to Days 5, 6 and 7 of creation.

Caleb Barrera, 8, a second-grader at Chula Vista's Berean Bible Baptist Church and Academy, moved his little camera as close as he could to the critters, snapping photo after photo. Bible in hand, first-grader Matthew Fernandez, 6, tugged fifth-grader Anthony Diez, 10, toward an exhibit crawling with cockroaches.

Soon it was time for museum curator Cindy Carlson to bring out Cuddles.

“He won't bite,” she assured. With the brown-and-black snake perched on her arm, she asked the students, “Who made snakes?”

“God!” they shouted.

No government funding

Just down the street from the Santee Drive In Theatre and a stone's throw from an auto-body shop, the businesslike building seems an unusual place to tackle such questions as, “What is the meaning of life?” and, “Where did I come from?”

A walk through the museum starts and ends in a small bookstore stocked with not-so-subtle titles such as “God Created the Plants & Trees of the World” and “Refuting Evolution.” A sign at the start of the tour states that the museum accepts no government funding. It isn't affiliated with any church, either.

Visitors step from the green-hued garden room into the reddish-orange glare of “The Fall of Man.” There, a human skull and a preserved tarantula are on display. A tiger painted on the wall bares its teeth as if poised to attack. The sorrowful cries of a man and baby waft overhead.

The next room evokes the inside of Noah's Ark. A floor-to-ceiling mural shows animals standing in pens. The sounds of cracking thunder and pouring rain can be heard, and a flashing light simulates lightning.

Noah didn't need to load the largest animals into the ark, a plaque reads. He could have collected “young virile specimens” instead, which could have allowed 50,000 animals to squeeze on board.

Near the end of the tour, a drawing of a healthy, green “Creationist Tree” is juxtaposed near a twisted “Evolutionary Tree.” Written next to the creationist tree: “Genuine Christianity” and “Correct Practices.” The evolutionary tree: “Harmful Philosophies” and “Evil Practices,” including promiscuity, pornography, genocide, slavery and abortion.

Father of creationism

The museum has been around almost as long as the Institute for Creation Research, founded by Morris' late father, Henry Morris, in 1970. It moved to its current location in the mid-1980s.
Morris is credited with helping to spark a modern creationist movement after co-writing the 1961 book “The Genesis Flood.” The work tried to scientifically explain the theory of divine creation.

The movement has grown from very few followers when the book was published to “tens of thousands” today, John Morris said, citing polls that show most Americans believe God had some hand in creation.

Morris, who has led expeditions to Turkey's Mount Ararat in search of Noah's Ark, said his father convinced many that creationism was true. John Morris now travels the country making the case for divine creation and against evolution.

From its Santee home, the institute also spreads its message across the world through pamphlets, radio programs broadcast by 1,500 radio stations worldwide, and a 113,000-circulation monthly newsletter.

Popular with students

Students on field trips and Bible study groups are among those who visit the museum most.
Berean Bible Baptist Academy student Erika Fernandez, 8, said she liked the room with live animals because her favorite parts of the Bible describe how God made them.

“No one can make any animal but him,” she said.
The school's principal, Melito Barrera, said he doesn't worry about the children getting mixed messages about creation and evolution from society.

He points to a nearby corridor in the museum, where photos of creationist scholars hang opposite those of evolutionist scholars. On the evolutionist side, Andrew Carnegie is described as “cruel and heartless in his own day to competitors and laborers alike.” He's joined by Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler, among others.

“That's what makes it very clear,” Barrera said. “There's no gray area. It's teaching them the truth so that they will know what is in error.”


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-04-2007, 03:25 PM

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Folks may say they believe in evolution, but they don't really buy that humans came from other creatures, said John D. Morris, president of the Institute for Creation Research, which runs the free-admission museum.

“You cannot convince a kid they came from a fish,” he said. “Kids know better and people know better.”
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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 05:09 AM

Wow, I didn't know there were Creationist museums out there. It's exciting to see things like this. It shows that everyone hasn't fallen under the delussions of evolution.
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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 09:17 AM

you mean it shows that too many people are giving into the terrorism of the christian church, and have given up evidence and facts in the face of blind following.

faith is the practice of not thinking....

do you really think the bible is literal? so when it says to kill peopel for certain crimes you think that is ok? or do you pick and choose what you believe in the bible?

you know we can clearly see in the layer of sediment when a certain thing died? have you heard of radio-carbon-dating....and please come at me with the creationist refutes to carbon dating i cant wait to shut you all up about that.

i cant believe i share the same planet with you...most of you probably still think the earth is flat and the sun revolves around us....the worst part is you psychos breed like vermin....well i guess you are vermin.
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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 09:49 AM

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faith is the practice of not thinking...
Praise Jesus! You are correct!
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
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do you really think the bible is literal? so when it says to kill peopel for certain crimes you think that is ok? or do you pick and choose what you believe in the bible?
Of course it is right to kill people for certain crimes.
God has no problem with killing sinners of different kinds, and neither do we. We follow the ENTIRE Bible here.


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you know we can clearly see in the layer of sediment when a certain thing died? have you heard of radio-carbon-dating....and please come at me with the creationist refutes to carbon dating i cant wait to shut you all up about that.
And who has proved science to be right in the first place?
Nodoby.

Haven't you heard of critical thinking? Why don't you apply any when it comes to your own religion: "science" (falsely-so-called science)?

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i cant believe i share the same planet with you...most of you probably still think the earth is flat and the sun revolves around us....the worst part is you psychos breed like vermin....well i guess you are vermin.
Wow, what a tolerant person you are, you tolerate every vile thing and every vile sin.. You tolerate everything.. Except us Christians.
Thank you for persecuting us for our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus has blessed us for it.

Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
2 Timothy 3:12


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A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
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Of course it is right to kill people for certain crimes.
God has no problem with killing sinners of different kinds, and neither do we. We follow the ENTIRE Bible here.




And who has proved science to be right in the first place?
Nodoby.

Haven't you heard of critical thinking? Why don't you apply any when it comes to your own religion: "science" (falsely-so-called science)?



Wow, what a tolerant person you are, you tolerate every vile thing and every vile sin.. You tolerate everything.. Except us Christians.
Thank you for persecuting us for our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus has blessed us for it.

Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Luke 6:22

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
2 Timothy 3:12

did you ask me who proved science right? are you mental? science isnt a thing its a tool. here maybe this will help you ....

science is the intellectual and practicle ACTIVITY encompassing the SYSTEMATIC study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.....

you believe what the bible says is true, it true, because the bible says it is....well then why is the quran wrong?....that says its true...it says it the word of god just like your book, and they are the same god, just different messiah....

so you believe its okay to kill your children when they dont listen, or kill another man just because he had sex with another man....why because it doesnt produce children? neither does masturbation, or wet dreams, or even doctor tests...oh its just you feeling pleasure that your all loving god is against.... so you got all your morals from the bible? thats depressing.

and yes religion begs you not to think he begs you to just believe what it says to be true even though everything says its wrong....and why? because you are too afraid to understand the universe and you feel that without a father figure telling you what to do you have no point to live...well wouldnt it be enough to just be happy and not need a point. you didnt choose to be born so why should there be a point? there isnt...just be happy and try not to push your beliefs on others when you have no evidence....its the year 2007 how about we grow up and get rid of our pacifiers (god)
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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 11:22 AM

153IQueer,

You spout as if you actually knew something. Science is a set of hypotheticals. Quantum physics is in direct opposition of regular physics. Every time they say one thing, ten papers come out claiming the exact opposite. I could write a scientific paper saying that the earth was flat in relation to the exosphere of the lateral transference. If I wrote it well enough, people would believe it. So what? Sheep are easily led to their slaughter, which is exactly what "science" is trying to do.


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so you believe its okay to kill your children when they dont listen,
Find where we say that anywhere?

or kill another man just because he had sex with another man....
It's in the bible. Look it up some time when you aren't mastrubating to pictures of men.

why because it doesnt produce children? neither does masturbation, or wet dreams, or even doctor tests...
Mastrubation is also a sin. Have you ever picked up a book in your life?
Another soul lost to the eternal pits of hell. Oh well.... Suffer not a fool to live.


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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 11:35 AM

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did you ask me who proved science right? are you mental? science isnt a thing its a tool. here maybe this will help you ....

science is the intellectual and practicle ACTIVITY encompassing the SYSTEMATIC study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.....
I'll refer you to Dr. Davidson's excellent clarification regarding "science".

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you believe what the bible says is true, it true, because the bible says it is....well then why is the quran wrong?....that says its true...it says it the word of god just like your book, and they are the same god, just different messiah....
1. The mudslimes doesn't believe in a messiah.
2. Their "god" is not our God, their "god" is satan and the moon.
3. Their book is written by satan, our book is written by God, their book is false, ours is true.

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so you believe its okay to kill your children when they dont listen, or kill another man just because he had sex with another man....
Yes, if they are truly rebellious and beating them won't help.
And God wants homers killed.

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why because it doesnt produce children? neither does masturbation, or wet dreams, or even doctor tests...oh its just you feeling pleasure that your all loving god is against.... so you got all your morals from the bible? thats depressing.
You make a false ASSUMPTION and then you base your argument around that?
What are you, retarded?

No.
It is wrong because God says it is wrong, He is God, His reasons for thinking so is His own.
If He says it is wrong, it is simply wrong, whatever the reasons are.
God is alot wiser than you, try putting some faith in Him instead of your own fantasies.

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination:
They shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13

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and yes religion begs you not to think he begs you to just believe what it says to be true even though everything says its wrong....
No, you and a bunch of other unsaved say it is wrong.
You are biased since you are unsaved and hate God.

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and why? because you are too afraid to understand the universe and you feel that without a father figure telling you what to do you have no point to live...well wouldnt it be enough to just be happy and not need a point. you didnt choose to be born so why should there be a point? there isnt...just be happy and try not to push your beliefs on others when you have no evidence....its the year 2007 how about we grow up and get rid of our pacifiers (god)
Thanks for your (totally incorrect) psychological evaluation, jennifer.
And yes, it's the year 2007 (wow, you know what date it is!) how about you grow up and get rid of your ego instead?


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A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 11:49 AM

i think the funniest part of the website is the maturity level of the adults here...i feel like im in grade school again!

the muslims do believe in a messiah, muhammed...allah is the same god as the jewish one and the christian.

you still havent told me why you think all this shit is true...there is no logic to it

there is no point your stupid and people that think like you will eventually be all gone.

quantum physics WAS in opposition of regular phsyics until a couple years ago when we unified M theory...maybe you were too busy too learn something so important.

heres a nice simple documentary on string theory M theory and quantum physics in general..

and yes science changes cause nature changes....evolves if you will.

just wait till you die and your world fades into darkness and its the same as it was before you were born NOTHING.

do you know what conscience is? its being studied and hypothesized that it is just eloctromagnetics....which would mean no life after death.

but i dont expect you to understand that with your brainwashed knowledge

watch this idiots.

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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 11:57 AM

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i think the funniest part of the website is the maturity level of the adults here...i feel like im in grade school again!
All I've seen from you is spouting. You talk of the maturity level but you have your fingers in your ears shouting, "Lalalala." Your use of vulgarity lets us know the quality of your character.

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the muslims do believe in a messiah, muhammed...allah is the same god as the jewish one and the christian.
Wrong... Mohammed is the prophet, not the messiah. If you're going to shoot down our beliefs, at least get the beilefs of those you're arguing for right.


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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 11:58 AM

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i think the funniest part of the website is the maturity level of the adults here...i feel like im in grade school again!

the muslims do believe in a messiah, muhammed...allah is the same god as the jewish one and the christian.
No, they believe Muhammed was God's prophet..
He wasn't, of course, but that's what they believe, look it up if you don't believe me.

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there is no point your stupid and people that think like you will eventually be all gone.
This "argument" would have been alot better (or maybe not..) if you could spell "YOU'RE".

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and yes science changes cause nature changes....evolves if you will.
Changes in science changes nature?
That's new, I knew your beliefs were silly, but not THAT silly.

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just wait till you die and your world fades into darkness and its the same as it was before you were born NOTHING.
If that was true, then how could I see or know anything when I've died?
Logic isn't your strongest side, is it boy?

Just what til YOU die and you awake in HELL where maggots will eat you alive and you will burn in eternal hellfire FOREVER!
That's what you'll get for rejecting Jesus Christ!

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do you know what conscience is? its being studied and hypothesized that it is just eloctromagnetics....which would mean no life after death.
I'm sure it is, satan is probably writing these theories as we speak.
He'll do anything to make people reject God and YOU fall for it!
You're VERY guillible.

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but i dont expect you to understand that with your brainwashed knowledge

watch this idiots.
Thank you for persecuting us, hatemonger.
It will only make Jesus punish you even worse when comes the Glory!
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A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 03:43 PM

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just wait till you die and your world fades into darkness and its the same as it was before you were born NOTHING.
Wrong sinner! I will be sitting at Jesus right hand at His feast! My place is guaranteed or my money back!!! Let's see you Darwinist match an offer like that. You can't, can't you?

No sinner, in the afterlife you will be in the lake of fire burning forever next to your false God Darwin. Only Jesus can save you now.



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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-05-2007, 04:38 PM

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you know we can clearly see in the layer of sediment when a certain thing died? have you heard of radio-carbon-dating....and please come at me with the creationist refutes to carbon dating i cant wait to shut you all up about that.

i cant believe i share the same planet with you...most of you probably still think the earth is flat and the sun revolves around us....the worst part is you psychos breed like vermin....well i guess you are vermin.
Here you go, now let's see what lies you use to refute it...
http://contenderministries.org/evolution/carbon14.php

The most interesting part is where you call us "vermit" because we disagree about something. Typical liberal. When you don't have the facts, you resort to invective.


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Default Re: Another Creationist Museum Opens! - 02-06-2007, 12:54 AM

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i feel like im in grade school again!
Are you sure you ever left?


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