[Pastor Ezekiel]

It seems that some of these smart-aleck monkey worshiping atheists who join the U.S. CHRISTIAN Military are starting to wake up and smell the burning brimstone. THIS secular story reveals how terrified they are of turning their backs on Jesus.

Atheists: "Do Troops Have Our Backs?"

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. -- In the midst of their fight to bring freedom to Iraq and Afghanistan, some American soldiers say they are finding their own freedoms threatened by the troops on their own side.

Though the U.S. Constitution mandates that the government apply no test of faith for employment (and presumably deployment), soldiers who are open about their non-belief can face harassment and ostracizing from fellow troops and their officers, some say.

"We didn't let anyone know we were atheists," said Steve Moore of Huntsville, who served two tours in Iraq as an Army staff sergeant.

Moore and his wife, Renee, also an Army veteran, were taking a break a couple of weeks ago from packing goody boxes for non-believing soldiers as part of Operation Foxhole Atheist, sponsored by the North Alabama Freethought Association.

"We didn't want any stigma to thwart our career," Moore said. "There is nothing more frightening than a radical fundamentalist with an assault rifle."

Chaplain Maj. Rajmund Kopec, a veteran of Serbia and Iraq now stationed at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, has seen it all -- both the violation of military principles that call for respect of each soldier's conscience, and the heroic support of it.

As a Catholic, he's been assured of his own eternal damnation by some Christians, he said in an interview. He's not surprised some atheists would rather keep their beliefs to themselves, though he remembers long conversations and friendly debates with one atheist stationed in Iraq.

"The soldiers reflect our society," Kopec said. "We don't come from the moon. By being a reflection of society, we also reflect the faith attitudes. We will have the militant factions.

"Should that happen? Of course not," Kopec said. "But it doesn't matter what the differences are. Sooner or later, you're going to get it from somebody."

What most soldiers do not get, however, are threats of "fragging" -- military slang for death by friendly fire -- because of their beliefs.

That's what Army Spc. Jeremy Hall, 22, said happened to him after he organized a meeting of atheists at his base in Iraq in August.

The threats came after Hall filed suit last month against the Department of Defense and Maj. Freddy Welborn. Hall said Welborn told a group of atheists that their unbelief was disgracing their country, and threatened to bar Hall's re-enlistment.

Since the threats, the Army has assigned a bodyguard to Hall for protection from his colleagues in arms.

"We're fighting the Christian Taliban, pure and simple," said Hall's attorney, Mikey Weinstein, speaking by phone from his office in Albuquerque, N.M.

Weinstein is an Air Force veteran and founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. His 2006 book, "With God on Our Side: One Man's War Against an Evangelical Coup in America's Military," will be issued in paperback this fall.

Since he began his campaign for religious freedom in the military, Weinstein said he has received regular death threats by phone and e-mail. Dead dogs have been dumped in his yard. The front window of his home in Albuquerque has been shot out twice.

Weinstein's foundation has received reports of religious intimidation from more than 6,000 troops, including from liberal Christians being harassed for not being "Christian enough."

In a 2005 New York Times story on the growing numbers of evangelical and charismatic Christian chaplains in the armed forces, Chaplain Brig.
Gen. Cecil Richardson said, "We will not proselytize, but we reserve the right to evangelize the unchurched."

"Most of the guys in my unit are pretty apathetic -- we have more important things to worry about than invisible men," Chalker wrote, referring to invisible deities.

But Master Sgt. Kathleen Johnson, 40, a career soldier from north Florida who enlisted in 1985, said many soldiers do worry about invisible things and pressure others to do the same.

"Being an atheist in the military can be isolating and lonely -- this environment is very much about `God and country,' and patriotism and religion are closely linked in the minds of many," Johnson wrote in a recent e-mail from her current posting in Iraq. "The biggest issue we
(atheists) have with discrimination right now is trying to assert our individual rights to live a religion-free life in the face of fundamentalist Christian commanders who see it as their duty to bring others to their worldview."

Johnson said she has been threatened with failing a mandatory course if she didn't bow her head during prayer. One military chaplain bragged to her about how he had stalled some Wiccan soldiers when they asked for a place to gather until they finally just gave up.

Honestly, what is the point of being in the military if you reject Jesus?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Honestly, what is the point of being in the military if you reject Jesus?

The only point I can think of is that they'll be sent to Hell that much faster.

[Marshall]

No Atheists in the Marine Corps thats for sure.
I figured they all stayed stateside raping and robbing since they have no comprehension of right and wrong.

[Bobby-Joe]

I thought they didn't allow gays into the military?

This is insane, atheists in the military. How can anyone who lacks the moral clarity of a Christian Republican kill people for America?

[lilith]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

I thought they didn't allow gays into the military?

This is insane, atheists in the military. How can anyone who lacks the moral clarity of a Christian Republican kill people for America?

"What most soldiers do not get, however, are threats of "fragging" -- military slang for death by friendly fire -- because of their beliefs."


No need to worry BJ. Apparently if the enemy don't get them,your lot will.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Originally Posted by lilith

No need to worry BJ. Apparently if the enemy don't get them,your lot will.

Have I ever told you to shut your yap?

[John Smith]

if people would get along and adhere to un rulings then the world would be one big happy family and war would be a thing of the past guns would be irrelevant and the worlds military could be disbanded altogether
then no one would insult the gay community and this issue would be moot

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by John Smith

if people would get along and adhere to un rulings then the world would be one big happy family and war would be a thing of the past guns would be irrelevant and the worlds military could be disbanded altogether
then no one would insult the gay community and this issue would be moot

All that is required is to repent and follow Christ properly.

And what in God's Sweet Name is an "un ruling"? Is that like an unbirthday? Did you know that the british fellow who wrote that book was a queer child molester and on the drugs all that time?

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

It seems that some of these smart-aleck monkey worshiping atheists who join the U.S. CHRISTIAN Military are starting to wake up and smell the burning brimstone. THIS secular story reveals how terrified they are of turning their backs on Jesus.

Honestly, what is the point of being in the military if you reject Jesus?

I was more shocked by this:

What most soldiers do not get, however, are threats of "fragging" -- military slang for death by friendly fire -- because of their beliefs.

That's what Army Spc. Jeremy Hall, 22, said happened to him after he organized a meeting of atheists at his base in Iraq in August.

Letting atheists into the army is bad enough, but Spics? Presumably the Godless Meskin is only doing it to get his green card. Jeremy's a bit of a strange name for a spic though.
And another thing: have none of these cowards ever heard of Jerry Boykin's words of wisdom? Presumably the atheist version would have to go "I knew that my humanist belief system was bigger than his God." That's never going to defeat Allah, now is it?

[lilith]

Originally Posted by Pastor Al E Pistle

Have I ever told you to shut your yap?

Frequently Al....& your point is?

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by lilith

"What most soldiers do not get, however, are threats of "fragging" -- military slang for death by friendly fire -- because of their beliefs."


No need to worry BJ. Apparently if the enemy don't get them,your lot will.

While I am not surprised Lilith that article discussing soldiers in "foxholes" caught your attention Lilith this is not an article about Ukrainian Fleet Week. Sorry to disappoint you. Since you are unclear on the concept "fragging" means having a live grenade tossed on them, not "fagging" as having a live homer tossed on them.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Originally Posted by lilith

Frequently Al....& your point is?

That you had best get to doing it OR ELSE! Do you want to be banned forever again?

[lilith]

Originally Posted by Pastor Al E Pistle

That you had best get to doing it OR ELSE! Do you want to be banned forever again?

What..."Lilith,you're banned for all eternity" again?
*Sigh* again already?

[SUV]

Oh, these foxy, God-Hating athians! What won't they think up next? And now they're claiming they have Stigmata, too?

Liar! Liar! ACLU Card on Fire!!!!!

[Deaner]

Moore and his wife, Renee, also an Army veteran, were taking a break a couple of weeks ago from packing goody boxes for non-believing soldiers

Goody boxes for atheists? What the hell's in them; porn and toilet paper with Christ's face on it?

Has anybody from the DOF looked into this? If we could intercept them we could replace the contents with Bibles and pictures of their unprotected loved ones at home.