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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-23-2007, 02:16 PM
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True story, a woman very like you asked the same question to some of her christian friends and they pushed her to try and make her son act straight. Know where that son in now? Dead in the ground, killed himself, he couldn't live with trying to bury who he was and with the fact that his own mother wouldn't accept him for who he was. This story is true, it really happened, and I'm sure there are many more like that boy who you don't hear about.
Do you want your daughter to end the same way, dead by her own hand because of a family who wouldn't accept her for who she is and who she chooses to love? Is that the fate you would prefer for her?
Here's a thought, how about loving and accepting her the way she is? Which is gay? Would you deny her happiness? Because to try and force her to deny her sexuality would be to deny her happiness in her life. Think of her feelings, not your own.
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I don't want her to end that way, and, for once on this forum, there is a reply that doesn't sound completely insane.
I only want my girl to be happy, that is all, both in this life and the new life after. I am only scared that her relationship will cause her to be damned after she moves on.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-23-2007, 02:54 PM
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I don't want her to end that way, and, for once on this forum, there is a reply that doesn't sound completely insane.
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She's a pagan, you're a pagan, so it makes sense that you'd get on well with each other.
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I only want my girl to be happy, that is all, both in this life and the new life after. I am only scared that her relationship will cause her to be damned after she moves on.
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Friend, she was damned from the moment she entered an unnatural relationship with Mary.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-23-2007, 04:05 PM
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I only want my girl to be happy, that is all, both in this life and the new life after. I am only scared that her relationship will cause her to be damned after she moves on.
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She's already damned for being a heretical catholic, and so are you.
But there is good news, leave the whore of Babylon and embrace the true God that is Jesus Christ.
And you will be Saved!
Why don't you read the Bible (KJV), and you will see for yourself, that what your priest tells you is a lie, and isn't found in the Holy Bible.
And I'll have you know that homosexuals aren't happy, far from it.
Homosexuals are sick, and like any other sick person, they need help.
The power of Jesus cures them, and the fact that she could become a rugmunching harlot only goes to prove that she has always been far from Jesus indeed.
Because the saved cannot sin. (1 John 3:6)
If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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10-23-2007, 05:38 PM
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It is something I do. It is very uncomfortable to provide me and my family's real names on the internet.
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Just as I thought. You're "uncomfortable" telling us your name is LEGION (Mark 5:9), but we have found you out, demon. We rebuke in Jesus precious name, Amen. Be GONE. And take your vile, rug munching daughter with you.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-23-2007, 06:26 PM
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I don't want her to end that way, and, for once on this forum, there is a reply that doesn't sound completely insane.
I only want my girl to be happy, that is all, both in this life and the new life after. I am only scared that her relationship will cause her to be damned after she moves on.
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Friend,
You have a right to be afraid and you are her parent. So why aren't do doing what Jesus wants an intervening with your 'daughter? Your’ daughter is not going to be happy when she finds out she is a hell bound, clam digging harlot but it is your’ duty to do this. This is one of those Tough Love® moments friend and Christ is watching. You can be sure He wasn’t happy when He had to drown the world with The Flood. Just think of that when confronting your’ tramp daughter.
Make it clear to your' daughter her choices; Jesus and a proper Christian husband or being a whore in a lezbo brothel in SF. Ask her if wants to spend the rest of life on platform thigh boots asking older women if they want a date.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-24-2007, 01:23 AM
Kill her if she doesn't stop to save your soul.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-24-2007, 03:44 AM
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Kill her if she doesn't stop to save your soul.
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Boy, you seem to have a streak of mindless violence and rage in you. You aren't a goth-tard by some chance, are you?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-28-2007, 05:06 AM
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I don't want her to end that way, and, for once on this forum, there is a reply that doesn't sound completely insane.
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Well, they give answers that are 100% bible-based, rather than answers which come from logic. That in itself says plenty.
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I only want my girl to be happy, that is all, both in this life and the new life after. I am only scared that her relationship will cause her to be damned after she moves on.
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Well, as a Pagan I don't believe in hell, and so nothing I believe supports the idea of her being made to suffer just because of who she chooses to love.
It's a pretty harsh belief you have there, thinking that just because she wants to be with who she loves, it would mean eternal torment. No loving god would/should condemn a person to eternity just for that. It's something to think about, you know?
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-28-2007, 05:22 AM
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I don't want her to end that way, and, for once on this forum, there is a reply that doesn't sound completely insane.
I only want my girl to be happy, that is all, both in this life and the new life after. I am only scared that her relationship will cause her to be damned after she moves on.
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Well, they give answers that are 100% bible-based, rather than answers which come from logic. That in itself says plenty.
Well, as a Pagan I don't believe in hell, and so nothing I believe supports the idea of her being made to suffer just because of who she chooses to love.
It's a pretty harsh belief you have there, thinking that just because she wants to be with who she loves, it would mean eternal torment. No loving god would/should condemn a person to eternity just for that. It's something to think about, you know?
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I agree i would rather have eternal torment then be with a god that condemns her for love, accept her as she is and you can both be happy, i am sure your god would understand that.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-28-2007, 08:08 AM
The bible is very clear that homosexuals are an abomination unto the Lord. Unfortunately, unless she turns, she's headed down to old Papa La Bas.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-28-2007, 08:15 AM
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I agree i would rather have eternal torment then be with a god that condemns her for love, accept her as she is and you can both be happy, i am sure your god would understand that.
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You both are right. I'll be sure to apoligize to her and tell her I'll support any decision she chooses to make. Thank you.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-28-2007, 02:04 PM
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You both are right. I'll be sure to apoligize to her and tell her I'll support any decision she chooses to make. Thank you.
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For this cause God gave them up unto VILE affections:
For even their women did change the natural use into that which is AGAINST NATURE:
Romans 1:26
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are WORTHY OF DEATH,
Not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Romans 1:32
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner,
Giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL fire.
Jude 1:7
God's words are CLEAR AS CRYSTAL!
So you have a single choice, love God or love evil and sin:
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: He preserveth the souls of his saints;
He delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
Psalm 97:10
If you side with sin over God, you WILL go to hell.
No matter how much you tell yourself you will not..
Either turn.. or burn.
What's it gonna be?
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-28-2007, 02:37 PM
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Well, they give answers that are 100% bible-based, rather than answers which come from logic. That in itself says plenty.
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Correct. If logic does not agree with the Bible 100%, there must be something very wrong with it.
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Well, as a Pagan I don't believe in hell, and so nothing I believe supports the idea of her being made to suffer just because of who she chooses to love.
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And? Nothing I believe supports the idea of decent white women being made to go without pies just because negroes can't keep their sticky fingers to themselves, but that doesn't mean it won't happen!
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It's a pretty harsh belief you have there, thinking that just because she wants to be with who she loves, it would mean eternal torment. No loving god would/should condemn a person to eternity just for that. It's something to think about, you know?
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I agree. It's terrible when God if forced to condemn someone to eternal torment just because of who they love. I cannot understand why these vicious homosexuals keep on breaking God's heart by rejecting His Love and choosing unnatural affections instead.
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I agree i would rather have eternal torment then be with a god that condemns her for love, accept her as she is and you can both be happy, i am sure your god would understand that.
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You are wrong on every imaginable level. You would not rather have eternal torment, it's the worst possible option by definition. And what's with the hypocritical double standard? Why do we have to change, but she doesn't? Why can't she accept us as we are (that is to say, people who hate perverts) and give up her perversion? That way, we can both be happy. After all, we're only asking her to give up some strange and sinful ways that no-one can even understand anyway, you're asking us to give up the eternal commandments of the Lord God Almighty. I think we can all see who's being unreasonable here.
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You both are right. I'll be sure to apoligize to her and tell her I'll support any decision she chooses to make. Thank you.
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Something I've just noticed...you give your age as 21. How old were you when you got knocked up with a harlot daughter who hates God?
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-28-2007, 10:48 PM
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You both are right. I'll be sure to apoligize to her and tell her I'll support any decision she chooses to make. Thank you.
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So then you choose to accept the advice of satan over the Holy Word of God? Bad choice.
Enjoy hell; you, your pervert daughter, and all of her lezbean sodomite lovers.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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10-29-2007, 06:11 AM
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Something I've just noticed...you give your age as 21. How old were you when you got knocked up with a harlot daughter who hates God?
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I'm 51, actually, I put a random year when I applied. I've never paid much mind to things like that when applying for a forum.
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-29-2007, 09:18 AM
Ashes, good for you in choosing to love and support you daughter regardless of orientation. It'll make her very happy.
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10-29-2007, 12:14 PM
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I'm 51, actually, I put a random year when I applied. I've never paid much mind to things like that when applying for a forum.
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You're not even a convincing liar. You were probably about 7 when you made the lifestyle choice to begin fornicating, and you probably got knocked up by some Papist with perverted sperm. Admit it!
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Ashes, good for you in choosing to love and support you daughter regardless of orientation. It'll make her very happy.
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How exactly will burning in the Lake of Fire for eternity make her very happy, you insufferable wench?
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Re: Mother of a Lesbian Seeking Advice -
10-29-2007, 10:51 PM
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You both are right. I'll be sure to apoligize to her and tell her I'll support any decision she chooses to make. Thank you.
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I hope you're happy, Van Hairbrain and Nerverash! Between the two of you and Satan, you've just managed to ensure four people are going to Hell. The two of you, this gullible woman who is falling for your deceit, and her miserable sinner of a daughter. She came here for help and the only thing you've succeeded in doing is helping her doom herself and her entire family! For shame! FOR SHAME!
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10-30-2007, 12:06 AM
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I hope you're happy, Van Hairbrain and Nerverash! Between the two of you and Satan, you've just managed to ensure four people are going to Hell. The two of you, this gullible woman who is falling for your deceit, and her miserable sinner of a daughter. She came here for help and the only thing you've succeeded in doing is helping her doom herself and her entire family! For shame! FOR SHAME!
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She made a choice all i did was state my ideas, i did not force them on her.
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10-30-2007, 12:34 AM
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She made a choice all i did was state my ideas, i did not force them on her.
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Do you use the same excuse when you give cocaine to children? "I didn't force them to ingest it!"
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