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Default Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 04:36 AM

How any single person who claims to have the love of Christ in their heart can promote these messages of hate is beyond me. In the few topics that I have read they are regarding homosexuals burning in hell or adulterers being condemned. "We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Sin is ever present in all our lives. Who among you can say that they have never looked at a woman with lust in their heart. If you have so even looked at a single woman with lust at any point in your life you are an adulterer and deserve eternal damnation. I thank the Lord, Jesus Christ, every day for the sacrifice he made so that my sins can be forgiven. This is not to say that I actively go around and sin, however, being a man, i sin daily and news flash, you all do too. It is by the blood of the one true God that we are saved. It is our job to be a shining light, "A city on a hill can't be hidden." "Let your good deeds shine amongst men so that they may see your good deeds and praise your father in heaven." Not a single post that I read makes me want to get to know a single one of you and I love the Lord, how then are you coming across to those non-believers that have not found their way yet. Remember Jesus said, "Let the children come to me" He was referring not just to children but all of God's children from inside the womb to 120 years of age. He said that if a man causes one of His children to stumble away from Him then it would have been better if that person had never been born. You are causing people to turn away from God and mock his scriptures. There is a better way. Truth, tolerance, love. Christ spent his time with the prostitutes, tax collectors, and sinners. He did not condemn them but taught them. Spread your love and when they ask why you love so unconditionally share with them the love of Christ not the fear of eternal Hell. I ask you in the name of Jesus and all his teachings, preach love, not hate. If you disagree, please show where it is written that Jesus preaches any form of intolerance and hate. Jesus stood over an adulterer and protected her from the stones of the people. According to law she deserved death, but he protected her and gave her mercy.
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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 04:38 AM

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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 04:42 AM

Where have I written anything about hateful. I am asking for you to love and not promote hate. Do not get caught in your own pride and assume you are my "Better." show respect, as i am giving you.
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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 05:28 AM

Please show me where Jesus directs us to "tolerate" unbelievers, and I'll show you where the new testament points out that unbelievers will not enter Heaven.


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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 05:42 AM

Dear Jesus-hater,

The words "tolerate" and "tolerance" are not in the Bible. I know that because I've read it cover to cover about a dozen times. You don't know that because you rely on scam artists to "interpret" it for you. Your dismissal of The Word of Our Lord is as repulsive as spitting into the beautiful face of Jesus Christ.

Shame on you. SHAME.

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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 06:56 AM

I notice that all your beliefs are based on a very selective view of certain bits from the new testament. The sort of stuff that false preachers teach the 'pew potatoes'.

Since Jesus is God what's your view on His words and actions in the old testament? False Christians ignore them. Am I right in thinking you would fit in this category?

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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 07:15 AM

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I ask you in the name of Jesus and all his teachings...
Oh dear, I can see you have gotten a start off the wrong foot here. You see, we worship Jesus of the BIBLE, not Sunday morning cartoon shows at Fluffy Bunny Church of the Feel-Goody-Good. So please take your hippie-dippie stinky patchouli smelling false god bobble-headed "Jesus" outside. Thank you.


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How any single person who claims to have the love of Christ in their heart can promote these messages of hate is beyond me. In the few topics that I have read they are regarding homosexuals burning in hell or adulterers being condemned. "We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Sin is ever present in all our lives. Who among you can say that they have never looked at a woman with lust in their heart. If you have so even looked at a single woman with lust at any point in your life you are an adulterer and deserve eternal damnation. I thank the Lord, Jesus Christ, every day for the sacrifice he made so that my sins can be forgiven. This is not to say that I actively go around and sin, however, being a man, i sin daily and news flash, you all do too. It is by the blood of the one true God that we are saved. It is our job to be a shining light, "A city on a hill can't be hidden." "Let your good deeds shine amongst men so that they may see your good deeds and praise your father in heaven." Not a single post that I read makes me want to get to know a single one of you and I love the Lord, how then are you coming across to those non-believers that have not found their way yet. Remember Jesus said, "Let the children come to me" He was referring not just to children but all of God's children from inside the womb to 120 years of age. He said that if a man causes one of His children to stumble away from Him then it would have been better if that person had never been born. You are causing people to turn away from God and mock his scriptures. There is a better way. Truth, tolerance, love. Christ spent his time with the prostitutes, tax collectors, and sinners. He did not condemn them but taught them. Spread your love and when they ask why you love so unconditionally share with them the love of Christ not the fear of eternal Hell. I ask you in the name of Jesus and all his teachings, preach love, not hate. If you disagree, please show where it is written that Jesus preaches any form of intolerance and hate. Jesus stood over an adulterer and protected her from the stones of the people. According to law she deserved death, but he protected her and gave her mercy.

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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 12:01 PM

I wish to echo JustGotSaved's sentiment. God hates all kinds of sinners, but I suspect He has reserved a special place in Hell for those of you who don't use paragraph breaks.

Please note that this is merely my own conjecture, and not directly based on scripture.


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I wish to echo JustGotSaved's sentiment. God hates all kinds of sinners, but I suspect He has reserved a special place in Hell for those of you who don't use paragraph breaks.

Please note that this is merely my own conjecture, and not directly based on scripture.
Paragraph breaks show that thought has gone into the post and it is not just a rant,

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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 12:13 PM

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Who among you can say that they have never looked at a woman with lust in their heart.
That really disgusts me. Not once have I ever so much as entertained the idea.

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Where have I written anything about hateful. I am asking for you to love and not promote hate. Do not get caught in your own pride and assume you are my "Better." show respect, as i am giving you.
Have you ever actually read the Bible?

There are loads of people God hates and wants dead (read Leviticus 20, for a start).

What makes you think God does not hate (for example) dirty queers and filthy lezzers?

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A thread on tolerance is a wonderful idea. I wish I had thought of that.


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According to law she deserved death, but he protected her and gave her mercy.
Friend,

The difference between mercy and toleration is obvious enough. No were did Christ ever say the adulteresses' sins should just be overlooked.

Listens to Christ's own final words on this.

"And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." (John 8:2-11 KJV)
Far to many people forget the last part of the statement.

Also, keep in mind the Pharisees were trying to entrap Jesus with this adulteress. You can easily read into the story they had falsely accused this woman. The reasoning being if Jesus didn't condemn her on mere gossip the Pharisees could accuse Christ of breaking God's law and if Jesus did condemn her they would accuse Christ of being merciless.



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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-18-2012, 09:34 PM

Hello false believer,

I have read your message and frankly I find it disgusting and an expression of contempt for any form of reason and love for God.

It is utterly horrible and I am amazed that the reverend has been so tolerant as to let stay even if that might lead you to spew more of your hatred. We are tolerant. We do want you to come to Jesus as you rightfully claim Jesus said. What we don't want is for you to hold up the name of the Lord as some sort of shield that gives immunity from facing the consequenses of your actions. That shield won't work here and it surely won't work when your life has ended and you are cast into the eternal fires. We want you to follow Jesus as He really was, we directly follow His edicts and His example, it is after all the only way to live and to live again.

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How any single person who claims to have the love of Christ in their heart can promote these messages of hate is beyond me.
How any single person can hear Jesus say "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." and think it to mean that the law of the Old Testament is no longer in effect is beyond me.

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In the few topics that I have read they are regarding homosexuals burning in hell or adulterers being condemned. "We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."
And three verses before that: "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:
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Yes, it is possible to believe in Christ and be saved, but uphold even one of the laws of the old testament, say the one that tells you not to murder shows that you know the law and it applies to you, ignorance is no excuse.

Please also note the past tense of "sinned". It does not say that we will all commit sins in the future, as a matter of fact, one of the basic things that makes you Christian is hatred of sin.

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Sin is ever present in all our lives. Who among you can say that they have never looked at a woman with lust in their heart. If you have so even looked at a single woman with lust at any point in your life you are an adulterer and deserve eternal damnation. I thank the Lord, Jesus Christ, every day for the sacrifice he made so that my sins can be forgiven. This is not to say that I actively go around and sin, however, being a man, i sin daily and news flash, you all do too. It is by the blood of the one true God that we are saved.
Psychologists would characterize your behavior here as projection and confirmation bias, I prefer to call it selfishness, ignorance and stupidity.

You seem to think that just because you think of women as sex objects everyone else must think so too, that is a very egotistical way of looking at things, worse you seem to be almost proud of that fact that you sin daily.

The Bible tells us that women are saved through child bearing, so that's what you should be at the forefront of your mind when dealing with one, not on how to have sex with her.

I would like to remind of you Romans 6:12-15, even if you sin you should hate it and take steps to better yourself, not wallow in its filth like a pig, as a Christian you are no longer allowed to be a slave to your lusts.

Don't you think that if God loved you you wouldn't have these tempations when seeing women. I can assure you many men feel absolutely no lust or temptation when seeing any woman, and these men are more righteous than you, their faith is stronger than the whispers of Satan tempting the weak to sin. You are following the devil if you accept having these feelings.

I must say I liked that you brought up the topic of adultery, it reminded of another story in the Bible, one I'm sure you've heard of, but one I doubt you've ever read carefully. John 8:3-11 explains the story of the captured adultress and Jesus' forgiveness, but His forgiveness is not unconditional, He requires that the woman "go, and sin no more.". He does not tell her to "go, and commit only those sins that mainstream society deems acceptable or those you can justify to yourself", no He tells her to not commit any sins at all. None. Zip. Nada. Quite a bit different from what you thought the Bible said, isn't it? That's why I, and all other True Christians™, urge you to actually read the Bible and not just go on hearsay.

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It is our job to be a shining light,
Hahaha, that's rich coming from you, someone who introduces himself by claiming to sin daily and exhorts other men to commit adultery, either in the mind or in the flesh, it's all equal to you (and to God of course).

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"A city on a hill can't be hidden." "Let your good deeds shine amongst men so that they may see your good deeds and praise your father in heaven." Not a single post that I read makes me want to get to know a single one of you and I love the Lord, how then are you coming across to those non-believers that have not found their way yet.
You know you're not actually converting someone to Christianity by lying about Jesus, right? By making up a fake God, one that you think is more palatable to the average heathen is a direct violation of the first commandment, and does nothing to help save these people from Hell.

Oh, and when exactly did you register and start posting on this here forum? I find it strange that you say our posts do not make you want to get to know us, but you still come up to us and not just read our posts but actively participate. I think we are doing quite well, and we'll be doing even better once we've convinced you to follow God of the Bible and not your own personal delusions.

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Remember Jesus said, "Let the children come to me" He was referring not just to children but all of God's children from inside the womb to 120 years of age.
Read those verses again: Matthew 19:13-15. He is specifically speaking of young children that are brought to Him to be blessed.

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He said that if a man causes one of His children to stumble away from Him then it would have been better if that person had never been born. You are causing people to turn away from God and mock his scriptures. There is a better way. Truth, tolerance, love. Christ spent his time with the prostitutes, tax collectors, and sinners. He did not condemn them but taught them. Spread your love and when they ask why you love so unconditionally share with them the love of Christ not the fear of eternal Hell. I ask you in the name of Jesus and all his teachings, preach love, not hate. If you disagree, please show where it is written that Jesus preaches any form of intolerance and hate. Jesus stood over an adulterer and protected her from the stones of the people. According to law she deserved death, but he protected her and gave her mercy.
Christs love is not unconditional, it is only for those who accept Him. And remember, "the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given to us." and the Holy Ghost of course only enters our body when we are baptized and accept Christ.

Accepting Him means more than bandying His name, it means following in His footsteps.

When Jesus healed one leper in a city He could thereafter not enter the city anymore because He would be accosted by a mob of people wanting to be healed. Mark 1:40-45 That teaches us something important: Jesus doles out His love sparingly and only to those who deserve it, not to just anyone who comes up to Him asking for it. But yes, we should preach God loves us, and we do, if you want God to love you too you only have to do the same thing we ask of any other sinner, Love Him first!
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How any single person who claims to have the love of Christ in their heart can promote these messages of hate is beyond me. In the few topics that I have read they are regarding homosexuals burning in hell or adulterers being condemned.
"...the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.... they which commit such things are worthy of death." Romans 1:27-32

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Who among you can say that they have never looked at a woman with lust in their heart.
I can. Even before I was saved I never committed adultery.

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being a man, i sin daily and news flash, you all do too.
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 1 John 3:6. Why don't you know Jesus, sinner?

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If you disagree, please show where it is written that Jesus preaches any form of intolerance and hate.
OK. Will these do, or would you like more? I have a lot more if you want them.

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There is a better way. Truth, tolerance, love. Christ spent his time with the prostitutes, tax collectors, and sinners. He did not condemn them but taught them.
In Matthew 23:33, Jesus said, Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Don't you believe we should lead our lives the way Christ led his?

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Spread your love and when they ask why you love so unconditionally share with them the love of Christ not the fear of eternal Hell.
In Mark 9:47, Jesus said, And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.... Again, are we not to emulate Christ?

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Looks like it ran away. Satan must have called it home for new orders.


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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-19-2012, 04:11 AM

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As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.



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Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind. Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing. For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit; let him turn away from evil and do good; let him seek peace and pursue it.
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