Go Back   The Landover Baptist Church Forum > Church Forums > Christian history forum
Reload this Page Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ?
Christian history forum This forum is dedicated to the history of Christianity, and its impact on the history of the world.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
(#21)
Old
snottyduck's Avatar
snottyduck snottyduck is offline
Confirmed Enemy of God
BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
 
Posts: 564
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Belgium
snottyduck is fearful, unbelieving, a liar, a whoremonger, and abominable. Has a place in the Lake of Fire secured.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-27-2008, 11:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
No, he is not.

Perhaps you need to work on your reading comprehension, Ducksnot.

Yes he is, With the Hipocrates oath medical doctors are sworn never to intentionally hurt a patient. It's a standard practice for medical doctors to take this oath. That is what he means with the Hippocrates era, the era where doctors began to take the oath.
Reply With Quote
(#22)
Old
Rev. M. Rodimer's Avatar
Rev. M. Rodimer Rev. M. Rodimer is offline
Honorary True Christian™
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Gunfest '07 True Christian™ Saved 1 Year 1st Year Bible College True Heterosexual™ Tithing Manager Long service medal, 3rd class Heaven Bound Protected by JESUS Mission to Australia Pastor of GOD Ready for the Rapture True Christian Caucasian Friend of Jesus Ex-Masturbator Ex-Masturbator 2010 Witch Hunt Award Flat Earth Tell her once Persecuted Porn Resistant Pro-Life Eats the Most Pork Public Awareness Medal True Republican Eats the Most Pork Batman Shooting Survivor Loves a GODLY Chic-Fil-A Christian Love Guns, Guts and GLORY! Proud Niglet Sponsorer Truck Stop Ministry Member Kirk Cameron Fan Club Prayer Warrior

 
Posts: 13,993
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Salem, Indiana
Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-28-2008, 12:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by snottyduck View Post
Yes he is, With the Hipocrates oath medical doctors are sworn never to intentionally hurt a patient. It's a standard practice for medical doctors to take this oath. That is what he means with the Hippocrates era, the era where doctors began to take the oath.
Then why did he not say that?

Are you a mind reader? If so, I believe Herr Doktor would like to speak with you.
Reply With Quote
(#23)
Old
Mark Vi Mark Vi is offline
Unsaved trash
Under Investigation
 
Posts: 20
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Godless Poofta England
Mark Vi is fearful, unbelieving, a liar, a whoremonger, and abominable. Has a place in the Lake of Fire secured.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-28-2008, 08:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
Then why did he not say that?

Are you a mind reader? If so, I believe Herr Doktor would like to speak with you.

Snottyduck is right about the oath.

But no I was indeed talking about the person, born 460BC on Kos (And i dont even need to google that, go me) . Read the header for this topic... "Religion"

Relegion does not exclsuively mean christianity my friend, "Religion through time has held back modern medicine" in no way indicates I was talking about any religion in particular.... So prehaps it's your reading comprehension that needs some work.


Mark Vi
Reply With Quote
(#24)
Old
Rev. M. Rodimer's Avatar
Rev. M. Rodimer Rev. M. Rodimer is offline
Honorary True Christian™
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Gunfest '07 True Christian™ Saved 1 Year 1st Year Bible College True Heterosexual™ Tithing Manager Long service medal, 3rd class Heaven Bound Protected by JESUS Mission to Australia Pastor of GOD Ready for the Rapture True Christian Caucasian Friend of Jesus Ex-Masturbator Ex-Masturbator 2010 Witch Hunt Award Flat Earth Tell her once Persecuted Porn Resistant Pro-Life Eats the Most Pork Public Awareness Medal True Republican Eats the Most Pork Batman Shooting Survivor Loves a GODLY Chic-Fil-A Christian Love Guns, Guts and GLORY! Proud Niglet Sponsorer Truck Stop Ministry Member Kirk Cameron Fan Club Prayer Warrior

 
Posts: 13,993
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Salem, Indiana
Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-28-2008, 03:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hope Vi View Post
Snottyduck is right about the oath.

But no I was indeed talking about the person, born 460BC on Kos (And i dont even need to google that, go me) . Read the header for this topic... "Religion"

Relegion does not exclsuively mean christianity my friend, "Religion through time has held back modern medicine" in no way indicates I was talking about any religion in particular.... So prehaps it's your reading comprehension that needs some work.


Hope Vi
Hope VI -

Please tell us how the Greeks' pantheistic religion held back Hippocrates.

Please tell us how early Islamists (the people in Spain who preserved all the Greek/Roman writings while Christ-hating Catholic Pagans were burning them) held back medicine and learning.

Hmm?
Reply With Quote
(#25)
Old
Unfalsifiable's Avatar
Unfalsifiable Unfalsifiable is offline
Forum Member
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Christian Love Protected by JESUS Ready for the Rapture Touched by Jesus Pro-Life Long service medal, 3rd class Parking Lot Tither

 
Posts: 903
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Knockin' on God's door
Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-28-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Vi View Post
Your still wrong.... Even if we agree with you over Hitler (which i dont). Do the maths. WW2 , an Athiests war as you call it doesn't even come close to the total death toll of all of the religious war's through history.

Ok here is an idea, say the opposite to what you concluded, and you will have the truth.


72,000,000[2] World War II - 6,000,000 jews if you like.
36,000,000[5] An Shi Rebellion
60,000,000[7] Mongol Conquests
25,000,000 Manchu conquest of the Ming Dynasty
30,000,000 [10] Taiping Rebellion
19,000,000 World War I.
9,000,000[14] Russian Civil War

This is a list of the worlds bloodiest wars with wiki links, preceded by their estimated death tolls, in bold are the religious totals, not in bold are the atheist totals.

ATHEISMS KILL MORE PEOPLE IN WAR.
Reply With Quote
(#26)
Old
Rev. M. Rodimer's Avatar
Rev. M. Rodimer Rev. M. Rodimer is offline
Honorary True Christian™
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Gunfest '07 True Christian™ Saved 1 Year 1st Year Bible College True Heterosexual™ Tithing Manager Long service medal, 3rd class Heaven Bound Protected by JESUS Mission to Australia Pastor of GOD Ready for the Rapture True Christian Caucasian Friend of Jesus Ex-Masturbator Ex-Masturbator 2010 Witch Hunt Award Flat Earth Tell her once Persecuted Porn Resistant Pro-Life Eats the Most Pork Public Awareness Medal True Republican Eats the Most Pork Batman Shooting Survivor Loves a GODLY Chic-Fil-A Christian Love Guns, Guts and GLORY! Proud Niglet Sponsorer Truck Stop Ministry Member Kirk Cameron Fan Club Prayer Warrior

 
Posts: 13,993
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Salem, Indiana
Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-28-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unfalsifiable View Post
Ok here is an idea, say the opposite to what you concluded, and you will have the truth.


72,000,000[2] World War II - 6,000,000 jews if you like.
36,000,000[5] An Shi Rebellion
60,000,000[7] Mongol Conquests
25,000,000 Manchu conquest of the Ming Dynasty
30,000,000 [10] Taiping Rebellion
19,000,000 World War I.
9,000,000[14] Russian Civil War

This is a list of the worlds bloodiest wars with wiki links, preceded by their estimated death tolls, in bold are the religious totals, not in bold are the atheist totals.

ATHEISMS KILL MORE PEOPLE IN WAR.
Where do you get the idea that these millions of people were atheists? Or are you one of those simpletons who believes that simply saying something, or writing it down, makes it truth?

Do you believe everything you read on the Innernets, or in some book?

Here's a news flash for you, son. Someone writing something down doesn't make it true.


Bible boring? Nonsense!
Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!
Reply With Quote
(#27)
Old
H. Montague Worthington's Avatar
H. Montague Worthington H. Montague Worthington is offline
True Christian™ Entrepreneur
True Christian™

One Year/1000 posts Saved 1 Year Saved 5 Years Saved 10 Years Christian Love True Christian™ Platinum Tither Real American™ Ribfest '05 True Heterosexual™ Long service medal, 1st class Heaven Bound Protected by JESUS Ex-Masturbator Super Soaker Baptism Award Ready for the Rapture True Christian Caucasian Teabag Patriot Friend of Jesus Flat Earth Tell her once TC Bravery Persecuted Porn Resistant Pro-Life True Republican Guns, Guts and GLORY! Prayer Warrior Trump of GOD Donald Trump 2016! Anti-sodomy

 
Posts: 2,695
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Leviticus Landing Gated Community, Freehold IA
H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!H. Montague Worthington will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-28-2008, 09:28 PM

Ridiculous. Everyone knows that Religion and Politics are the two BEST and MOST EFFICIENT ways of weeding out the sub-human trash-- the inferior sub-human garbage, the stupid ignorant filth, the animalistic inferiors-- where they belong.... in their camps and ovens. How else are you going to keep humanity pure?

Oh, sure, you criticize, but what solutions to YOU have for cleansing the rotting filthy masses of breath-stealing stinking hoardes of inferio0rs? Of what shall we make our xylophones and piano keys, if not from the bones of disgusting sub-human vermin? What, exactly, is YOUR solution to the Negro, Catholic, Asian, Jew, Mudslime, Canuck, Cripple, Demoncrat and Euroscum question, if not massive, systematic and total extermination? Huh, smartypants? What's a reasonable alternative?
Reply With Quote
(#28)
Old
Mark Vi Mark Vi is offline
Unsaved trash
Under Investigation
 
Posts: 20
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Godless Poofta England
Mark Vi is fearful, unbelieving, a liar, a whoremonger, and abominable. Has a place in the Lake of Fire secured.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-29-2008, 08:58 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
Hope VI -

Please tell us how the Greeks' pantheistic religion held back Hippocrates.

Please tell us how early Islamists (the people in Spain who preserved all the Greek/Roman writings while Christ-hating Catholic Pagans were burning them) held back medicine and learning.

Hmm?
Hippocrates was the first man to think about medicine in a scientific light, before that all the old practices where based on the principles of religion (which lets be fair isn't going to help you much)

The theory of the four humours was the first breakthrough in medical scientific thinking, Yes... it was wrong. But it was still the turning point for modern day medicine.

So religion before that did hold back medicine. Hell early religion would have called for smashing a hole in your head to let the 'evil spirits' out when you had a headache....

.


Also to the guy above, what solution could I make ? Simple, for one power or country to conquer every nation on the earth eradicating all of what you discribes as "inferiors".

Hitler was a madman, and in your minds a sinner. But would the world have been a better place if he had succeeeded ?? If the british had sided with him at the beginning of the war as Hitler had asked them to do what would have been the outcome, For a start america would never have dropped 'littleboy' as it wouldn't have been created in time... who knows.


Mark Vi
Reply With Quote
(#29)
Old
Ezekiel Bathfire's Avatar
Ezekiel Bathfire Ezekiel Bathfire is offline
Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
Christ's Rottweiler
 

One Year/1000 posts Saved 1 Year 1st Year Bible College 2nd Year Bible College 3rd Year Bible College 4th Year Bible College True Christian™ The Al E. Pistle Award for Excellence in Rebuking Christian Love Real American™ Tithing Manager Heaven Bound Protected by JESUS True Scientist™ Pastor of GOD Ex-Masturbator Super Soaker Baptism Award Ready for the Rapture True Christian Caucasian Senior Pastor Teabag Patriot TC Bravery Friend of Jesus Flat Earth Tell her once Persecuted Porn Resistant The Hatchet Child Rearing Award Ex-Brit Eats the Most Pork True Republican Ex-eurotrash Batman Shooting Survivor Loves a GODLY Chic-Fil-A Guns, Guts and GLORY! Proud Niglet Sponsorer Kirk Cameron Fan Club Nuts for JESUS! Prayer Warrior Touched by Jesus Stamp of Approval Rick Perry's Niggerhead Ranch Mower Donald Trump 2016! Anti-sodomy Pastor Ezekiel Aardvark Bathfire Crown of Life Alternative Facts Probing for Jesus 20,000 posts Saved 10 Years Proud TP Rebuker for Christ Anti-Biden

 
Posts: 22,727
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Toiling selflessly towards Salvation
Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Ezekiel Bathfire will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-29-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Vi View Post
Hippocrates was the first man to think about medicine in a scientific light, before that all the old practices where based on the principles of religion (which lets be fair isn't going to help you much)
All misfortune, illness included, is from God and is a punishment for sins. Petitioning God, via prayer is the way forward. Secular medicine is of the devil, as it works to defeat God’s purpose.

2Ch:16:12: And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.
2Ch:16:13: And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign.

Job:13:3: Surely I would speak to the Almighty, and I desire to reason with God.
Job:13:4: But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value.
Job:13:5: O that ye would altogether hold your peace! and it should be your wisdom.
Job:13:6: Hear now my reasoning, and hearken to the pleadings of my lips.
Job:13:7: Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him?
Job:13:8: Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God?

Quote:
The theory of the four humours was the first breakthrough in medical scientific thinking, Yes... it was wrong. But it was still the turning point for modern day medicine.
How can something that even you say was wrong be a turning point?

Quote:
So religion before that did hold back medicine.
See above, prayer is still a sovereign remedy if God so wills.


Quote:
Hell early religion would have called for smashing a hole in your head to let the 'evil spirits' out when you had a headache...
and is still used: Trepanation is a treatment used for epidural and subdural hematomas, and for surgical access for certain other neurosurgical procedures, such as intracranial pressure monitoring. Modern surgeons generally use the term craniotomy for this procedure. The removed piece of skull is typically replaced as soon as possible. If the bone is not replaced, then the procedure is considered a craniectomy.

All I can say is that your medical and biblical knowledge are equally abysmal. One wonders why you bother commenting.






“We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

Author of such illuminating essays as,
Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.
Reply With Quote
(#30)
Old
Unfalsifiable's Avatar
Unfalsifiable Unfalsifiable is offline
Forum Member
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Christian Love Protected by JESUS Ready for the Rapture Touched by Jesus Pro-Life Long service medal, 3rd class Parking Lot Tither

 
Posts: 903
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Knockin' on God's door
Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-29-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
Where do you get the idea that these millions of people were atheists? Or are you one of those simpletons who believes that simply saying something, or writing it down, makes it truth?

Do you believe everything you read on the Innernets, or in some book?

Here's a news flash for you, son. Someone writing something down doesn't make it true.
What are you talking about?

Someone told me religious warring killed more people then any other, so I brought up the figures of religious and non-religious wars, non-religious wars have caused much more death.

Therefore, rather then the "religious" people to be to blame for war deaths, the non-religious people are, what do we call non-religious people? Atheists.

So if someone is claiming that religious wars are something to shame religion with, you can just turn right around and show them just how many people die in wars when God is not on peoples minds.

God by comparison is merciful and loving, sure he can kick major ass, but his love for us shines through when we see how many die when people fight over greed rather then God.

Atheist wars are far more to blame, shame on atheists.
Reply With Quote
(#31)
Old
Rev. M. Rodimer's Avatar
Rev. M. Rodimer Rev. M. Rodimer is offline
Honorary True Christian™
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Gunfest '07 True Christian™ Saved 1 Year 1st Year Bible College True Heterosexual™ Tithing Manager Long service medal, 3rd class Heaven Bound Protected by JESUS Mission to Australia Pastor of GOD Ready for the Rapture True Christian Caucasian Friend of Jesus Ex-Masturbator Ex-Masturbator 2010 Witch Hunt Award Flat Earth Tell her once Persecuted Porn Resistant Pro-Life Eats the Most Pork Public Awareness Medal True Republican Eats the Most Pork Batman Shooting Survivor Loves a GODLY Chic-Fil-A Christian Love Guns, Guts and GLORY! Proud Niglet Sponsorer Truck Stop Ministry Member Kirk Cameron Fan Club Prayer Warrior

 
Posts: 13,993
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Salem, Indiana
Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-29-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Vi View Post
Hippocrates was the first man to think about medicine in a scientific light, before that all the old practices where based on the principles of religion (which lets be fair isn't going to help you much)


So religion before that did hold back medicine. Hell early religion would have called for smashing a hole in your head to let the 'evil spirits' out when you had a headache....
Please show us exactly how a religion prior to Hippocrates actually held back medicine. The fact that people hadn't figured out medicine before his time doesn't mean that someone was holding them back.

Why don't you look up ancient Egyptian medicine? Pre-Hippocrates, yet they were using aspirin (willow bark) and other treatments we still use today, and which have been "proven" by your "scienticians" to work. Do you deny that they had a strong demon-worshipping and God-hating religion?[/quote]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unfalsifiable View Post
What are you talking about?

Someone told me religious warring killed more people then any other, so I brought up the figures of religious and non-religious wars, non-religious wars have caused much more death.

Therefore, rather then the "religious" people to be to blame for war deaths, the non-religious people are, what do we call non-religious people? Atheists.
And what do we call Catholics like Hitler? Mary-worshipping, idolatrous, hellbound Catholics. That's why all his soldiers wore belt buckles saying "Gott mit uns". It's not asking whether they had their handgear, but rather stating their belief that God was with them.



Your claims of Hitler and all other major war-leaders in hostory being atheist is laughable. Why, there are more happy emos than there are atheists!!


Bible boring? Nonsense!
Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!
Reply With Quote
(#32)
Old
Unfalsifiable's Avatar
Unfalsifiable Unfalsifiable is offline
Forum Member
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Christian Love Protected by JESUS Ready for the Rapture Touched by Jesus Pro-Life Long service medal, 3rd class Parking Lot Tither

 
Posts: 903
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Knockin' on God's door
Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-29-2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post

And what do we call Catholics like Hitler? Mary-worshipping, idolatrous, hellbound Catholics. That's why all his soldiers wore belt buckles saying "Gott mit uns". It's not asking whether they had their handgear, but rather stating their belief that God was with them.
War wasn't fought over religion, only the holocaust, that's only 6m of the 72m deaths.

Even if you want to excluse ww2, that still doesn't bring the figures level. Atheist wars kill more people, go check.
Reply With Quote
(#33)
Old
Rev. M. Rodimer's Avatar
Rev. M. Rodimer Rev. M. Rodimer is offline
Honorary True Christian™
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Gunfest '07 True Christian™ Saved 1 Year 1st Year Bible College True Heterosexual™ Tithing Manager Long service medal, 3rd class Heaven Bound Protected by JESUS Mission to Australia Pastor of GOD Ready for the Rapture True Christian Caucasian Friend of Jesus Ex-Masturbator Ex-Masturbator 2010 Witch Hunt Award Flat Earth Tell her once Persecuted Porn Resistant Pro-Life Eats the Most Pork Public Awareness Medal True Republican Eats the Most Pork Batman Shooting Survivor Loves a GODLY Chic-Fil-A Christian Love Guns, Guts and GLORY! Proud Niglet Sponsorer Truck Stop Ministry Member Kirk Cameron Fan Club Prayer Warrior

 
Posts: 13,993
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Salem, Indiana
Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-29-2008, 10:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unfalsifiable View Post
War wasn't fought over religion, only the holocaust, that's only 6m of the 72m deaths.

Even if you want to excluse ww2, that still doesn't bring the figures level. Atheist wars kill more people, go check.
You haven't shown me a SINGLE war fought by atheists!!


Bible boring? Nonsense!
Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!
Reply With Quote
(#34)
Old
Unfalsifiable's Avatar
Unfalsifiable Unfalsifiable is offline
Forum Member
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Christian Love Protected by JESUS Ready for the Rapture Touched by Jesus Pro-Life Long service medal, 3rd class Parking Lot Tither

 
Posts: 903
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Knockin' on God's door
Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 12:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unfalsifiable View Post

72,000,000[2] World War II - 6,000,000 jews if you like.
36,000,000[5] An Shi Rebellion
60,000,000[7] Mongol Conquests
25,000,000 Manchu conquest of the Ming Dynasty
30,000,000 [10] Taiping Rebellion
19,000,000 World War I.
9,000,000[14] Russian Civil War

This is a list of the worlds bloodiest wars with wiki links, preceded by their estimated death tolls, in bold are the religious totals, not in bold are the atheist totals.
God as motive for war, 36m (including holocaust). God not as motive for war, 136m.

That is just the bloodiest wars, believe me, most other wars with death dolls below this are also not religiously motivated too.

Frankly, the Taiping Rebellion was hardly about God. Hong Xiuquan was just pretending to be Jesus's brother to start a bunch of violence. He's very like a Catholic, ACTUAL Christianity barely enters his mind, and he spends most of his time just using it to control people.
Reply With Quote
(#35)
Old
JennyD's Avatar
JennyD JennyD is offline
Honorary True Christian™
Sweet Placid Sister
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Ribfest '09 Saved 1 Year Christian Love Real American™ True Christian Lady

 
Posts: 9,562
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Surrounded by hippie vermin
JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.JennyD is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 02:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unfalsifiable View Post
God as motive for war, 36m (including holocaust). God not as motive for war, 136m.

That is just the bloodiest wars, believe me, most other wars with death dolls below this are also not religiously motivated too.

Frankly, the Taiping Rebellion was hardly about God. Hong Xiuquan was just pretending to be Jesus's brother to start a bunch of violence. He's very like a Catholic, ACTUAL Christianity barely enters his mind, and he spends most of his time just using it to control people.
I don't know much about "death dolls", but I'd say using religion to control people makes for a False Christian war, not an atheist war.

An atheist war would be one in which no religion is invoked, not where your OPINION is that the leader was not sincere in his professed faith!


www.palibandaily.com - Your Christian News Source
Huckabee/Palin Gingrich 2012 will reclaim America for Christ! PRAISE!

Christian Ladies:
Savor your separation in style at the Monthly Visitor!
Reply With Quote
(#36)
Old
snottyduck's Avatar
snottyduck snottyduck is offline
Confirmed Enemy of God
BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
 
Posts: 564
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Belgium
snottyduck is fearful, unbelieving, a liar, a whoremonger, and abominable. Has a place in the Lake of Fire secured.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post

And what do we call Catholics like Hitler? Mary-worshipping, idolatrous, hellbound Catholics. That's why all his soldiers wore belt buckles saying "Gott mit uns". It's not asking whether they had their handgear, but rather stating their belief that God was with them.



Your claims of Hitler and all other major war-leaders in hostory being atheist is laughable. Why, there are more happy emos than there are atheists!!

Wrong, those who served under the Waffen-SS and SS Didn't have the "Gott Mit Uns" belt, they used another type with no markings toward God.
Reply With Quote
(#37)
Old
Herr_Doktor Phd.'s Avatar
Herr_Doktor Phd. Herr_Doktor Phd. is offline
True Christian™
True Christian™
 
Posts: 492
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: 48 14 N 16 20 E 6:00 p.m
Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.Herr_Doktor Phd. has bribed people to get these reputation points.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 09:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by snottyduck View Post
Wrong, those who served under the Waffen-SS and SS Didn't have the "Gott Mit Uns" belt, they used another type with no markings toward God.
I'll keep this simple Mr. Smarty Pance. Then why was the official Nazi religion "believer unto God"? Besides 95 per cent of German troops wore those buckles in both wars.

Even more, those of the SS that did not follow the state official religion were mixed up in some type of Woten worship.

So what's your point besides demonstrating to us yet again your Nazi sympathies?




Exodus 22:18
says, "Suffer not a witch to live." Deuteronomy 18:10 says, "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch."
Reply With Quote
(#38)
Old
Mark Vi Mark Vi is offline
Unsaved trash
Under Investigation
 
Posts: 20
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Godless Poofta England
Mark Vi is fearful, unbelieving, a liar, a whoremonger, and abominable. Has a place in the Lake of Fire secured.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 10:29 AM

Quote:
The theory of the four humours was the first breakthrough in medical scientific thinking, Yes... it was wrong. But it was still the turning point for modern day medicine.
How can something that even you say was wrong be a turning point?


Clearly my knowledge of history is better than yours good sir.

Before hippocrates's theory of the four humours the general thoughts and attitudes towards illness's where that they where caused by spirits / gods / past sins etc. All completely wrong.

The theory of the four humours was the first time that medicine was looked at in a scientific way and was the turning point for modern medicine.

Mark Vi
Reply With Quote
(#39)
Old
Unfalsifiable's Avatar
Unfalsifiable Unfalsifiable is offline
Forum Member
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Christian Love Protected by JESUS Ready for the Rapture Touched by Jesus Pro-Life Long service medal, 3rd class Parking Lot Tither

 
Posts: 903
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Knockin' on God's door
Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.Unfalsifiable is veritably a saint destined for a place in Heaven near Jesus' right hand.
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JennyD View Post
I don't know much about "death dolls", but I'd say using religion to control people makes for a False Christian war, not an atheist war.

An atheist war would be one in which no religion is invoked, not where your OPINION is that the leader was not sincere in his professed faith!
Yeah that is why I counted the Taiping Rebellion as religious.
Reply With Quote
(#40)
Old
Rev. M. Rodimer's Avatar
Rev. M. Rodimer Rev. M. Rodimer is offline
Honorary True Christian™
Forum Member

One Year/1000 posts Gunfest '07 True Christian™ Saved 1 Year 1st Year Bible College True Heterosexual™ Tithing Manager Long service medal, 3rd class Heaven Bound Protected by JESUS Mission to Australia Pastor of GOD Ready for the Rapture True Christian Caucasian Friend of Jesus Ex-Masturbator Ex-Masturbator 2010 Witch Hunt Award Flat Earth Tell her once Persecuted Porn Resistant Pro-Life Eats the Most Pork Public Awareness Medal True Republican Eats the Most Pork Batman Shooting Survivor Loves a GODLY Chic-Fil-A Christian Love Guns, Guts and GLORY! Proud Niglet Sponsorer Truck Stop Ministry Member Kirk Cameron Fan Club Prayer Warrior

 
Posts: 13,993
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Salem, Indiana
Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!Rev. M. Rodimer will sit at the right hand of Jesus Himself come the Glory!
Default Re: Religions causing wars/killings, God's intention ? - 05-30-2008, 03:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unfalsifiable View Post
Yeah that is why I counted the Taiping Rebellion as religious.
Show me wars where religion was not involved.

You, sir, are being disingenuous. You call a war an "atheist war" if the specific reason for the war is not "invasion to promote the Word of God".

An "atheist war" would be a war fought by atheists and without invoking of religion. Essentially EVERY war involves the invocation of religion, whether we are talking about the Nazis' holy war to cleanse Europe of the Jewish pestilence or the American crusade against Islamofascists.


Bible boring? Nonsense!
Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
islamofacists hate america, muslims hindus and buddhists

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Find Additional Forums Here



Powered by Jesus - vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Content Landover Baptist Forums © 1620, 2022 all rights reserved