[Pastor Ezekiel]

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My husband loves to drink, although he is a good Christian man so he keeps it in moderation. I'm proud to say that always gets a nice, cool drink within seconds of him shouting at me to "get off my lazy arse and get me another drink, wife!". He's so wonderful!

I call shenanigans. I have yet to meet a Scottsman who drank in moderation.

[Maxton M. Jones]

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I call shenanigans. I have yet to meet a Scottsman who drank in moderation.

I'm Scottish and I've never drank a drop of alcohol in my life!

[Redeemed Papist]

I'm Scottish and I've never drank a drop of alcohol in my life!

How is this drinking in moderation then?
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[Zechariah Smyth]

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I'm Scottish and I've never drank a drop of alcohol in my life!

Indeed: I've met quite a few scotchmen and they never restrict themselves to a solitary drop.



Now, how about staggering over to the Introduction Forum and properly introducing yourself, OK?

We want to get to know you!!!



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I'm Scottish and I've never drank a drop of alcohol in my life!

You're either a liar or you're not a Scott, which is it?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

[davidbrainfart]

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I was brought up as a Southern Baptist and we were taught that when the Bible referred to Jesus and the disciples drinking wine, it really meant unfermented grape juice. We even had unfermented grape juice at the Lord's supper.

Since then I went on to drinking beer and wine in moderation. Now I drink almost entirely nonalcoholic beer.

Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller the magicians is also an atheist and he says he has never used alchohol or drugs.

[Redeemed Papist]

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I was brought up as a Southern Baptist and we were taught that when the Bible referred to Jesus and the disciples drinking wine, it really meant unfermented grape juice. We even had unfermented grape juice at the Lord's supper.

Since then I went on to drinking beer and wine in moderation. Now I drink almost entirely nonalcoholic beer.

Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller the magicians is also an atheist and he says he has never used alchohol or drugs.

There are two possibilities.

One, the Bible refers to wine numerous times and each time it is internally contradicting itself because one minute it means wine that gets you drunk, like when Noah was so drunk Ham shamed himself by tittle tattling to his brothers about Noah's nakedness or when Lot was so drunk his harlot daughters could commit incest with him. The next it magically, without saying so, means grape juice.

Two, your pastors were lying to you so you didn't get tempted to drink because they were superimposing their own values on scripture and using your imbued fear of God to add weight to their own secular views.

I'm inclined to think your pastors were more than prepared to lie to you and twist scripture when it suited their purposes. I wonder if this is the source of your conflict with us because you seem to have picked this habit up of twisting scripture when it suits your secular desires from somewhere...

[davidbrainfart]

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I was brought up as a Southern Baptist and we were taught that when the Bible referred to Jesus and the disciples drinking wine, it really meant unfermented grape juice. We even had unfermented grape juice at the Lord's supper.

There are two possibilities.

One, the Bible refers to wine numerous times and each time it is internally contradicting itself because one minute it means wine that gets you drunk, like when Noah was so drunk Ham shamed himself by tittle tattling to his brothers about Noah's nakedness or when Lot was so drunk his harlot daughters could commit incest with him. The next it magically, without saying so, means grape juice.

That's why I think the reference to wine is meant to be taken literally.

Two, your pastors were lying to you so you didn't get tempted to drink because they were superimposing their own values on scripture and using your imbued fear of God to add weight to their own secular views.

There may have been lying involved at some point, but I believe the preachers believed what they were saying.

The medical consensus today is that the equivalent of one or two glasses of wine a day are better for you than either drinking more or not drinking. According to that, I am at risk for not drinking enough.

Of course alcoholics cannot stop at one or two drinks and, according to literature the Southern Baptist Convention distributed, one person in sixteen who takes the first drink becomes an alcoholic, one in seven becomes a problem drinker. I didn't turn out to be the one in sixteen or the one in seven. I later learned that there is a possible genetic basis for alcoholism. Accordingly, my granddaughter, whose father is a recovered alcoholic, wisely abstains from drinking alcoholic beverages.

I'm inclined to think your pastors were more than prepared to lie to you and twist scripture when it suited their purposes.

Unlike the pastors of the Landover Baptist Church?

I wonder if this is the source of your conflict with us because you seem to have picked this habit up of twisting scripture when it suits your secular desires from somewhere...

I don't rely on Biblical scriptures for authority of any kind. I simply call them as I see them. I point out contradictions and weird interpretations as I see them.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I don't rely on Biblical scriptures for authority of any kind. I simply call them as I see them. I point out contradictions and weird interpretations as I see them.

And THAT is precisely why you are bound for an eternity in the deepest pits of hell, and are NOT WELCOME HERE!

[Gays are equals!]

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And THAT is precisely why you are bound for an eternity in the deepest pits of hell, and are NOT WELCOME HERE!

This link is much much better.

[Gays are equals!]

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God hates haters, Jesus was a Jew! The bible was made up by people seeking attention! ALL those are facts gays aren't any different, besides the fact that they are BETTER THAT YOU ALL!

[Redeemed Papist]

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God hates haters, Jesus was a Jew! The bible was made up by people seeking attention! ALL those are facts gays aren't any different, besides the fact that they are BETTER THAT YOU ALL!

Superbly put. Nothing shows that gays are fabulous like a link to a silly juvenile shock site. You make the case that you are right and God is wrong so well. all your gay friends must be so proud of you.

[Gays are equals!]

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Superbly put. Nothing shows that gays are fabulous like a link to a silly juvenile shock site. You make the case that you are right and God is wrong so well. all your gay friends must be so proud of you.

Yeah, and god is proud as well, if he made gays, that must mean he is a little gay himself as well, or why even think of it? Is it that Satan has power over god himself? I'd rather burn in hell with Satan than live like a king with an ignorant god that hates his own creations! Your argument is invalid!

[Redeemed Papist]

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Yeah, and god is proud as well, if he made gays, that must mean he is a little gay himself as well, or why even think of it? Is it that Satan has power over god himself? I'd rather burn in hell with Satan than live like a king with an ignorant god that hates his own creations! Your argument is invalid!

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

[Brother Enoch]

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Yeah, and god is proud as well, if he made gays, that must mean he is a little gay himself as well, or why even think of it? Is it that Satan has power over god himself? I'd rather burn in hell with Satan than live like a king with an ignorant god that hates his own creations! Your argument is invalid!

I take it your New Years resolution was to act like a douchebag on the internets, yes?