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Re: True Christians are Perfect! -
11-17-2011, 08:20 AM
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Of course that makes them the worst kind of sinners = abominations = disgusting things!
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1 Where are you getting your information about abominations?
2 Here's a little exercise you might like to try with your students
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06-12-2012, 09:19 AM
Here is a common objection I have read from some readers on the term perfection.
I wanted to write a refutation to it.
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I believe the correct translation of perfect is mature in Christ, you can't honestly think we are literally perfect, Bible says we are all sinners, that is why we need Christ, if we weren't Christ died for nothing.
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Okay, so perfect doesn't mean perfect. It allegedly means mature.
Please see Romans 12:2.
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God.
Does that mean God's will is "mature?" Of course not. It's the same Greek word.
See Hebrews 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Again, it's the same Greek word telios. I seriously doubt you would call Jesus a mature tabernacle, would you?
Perfection only comes through Christ, otherwise 1 John would be a totally contradictory mess.
1 John 1
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 John 3
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Stop picking and choosing what the word means when it suits your agenda!
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: True Christians are Perfect! -
07-10-2012, 02:57 AM
"you will be the first to die for your belief, the revolution is upon you."
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07-10-2012, 03:02 AM
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"you will be the first to die for your belief, the revolution is upon you."
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I think Ofc. Don W. Richards will be having a word with you soon regarding your transmission of death threats via the internet machine.
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07-10-2012, 03:06 AM
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"you will be the first to die for your belief, the revolution is upon you."
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I think Ofc. Don W. Richards will be having a word with you soon regarding your transmission of death threats via the internet machine.
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Bring donuts.
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Re: True Christians are Perfect! -
08-27-2012, 06:22 PM
Nobody's perfect. You know this.
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08-27-2012, 06:45 PM
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Nobody's perfect. You know this.
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More fallacious reasoning (expanding your experience, a very limited data set, into a general conclusion). You are not perfect, you've never met anyone that is perfect, therefore no one is perfect.
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Re: True Christians are Perfect! -
08-27-2012, 07:06 PM
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Nobody's perfect. You know this.
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Doris, please read the original post, which explains why True Christians™ are perfect, instead of responding with a typical, witless atheist one-liner which makes clear that you've only read the thread title.
Bible boring? Nonsense!
Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
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08-29-2012, 09:04 PM
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Doris, please read the original post, which explains why True Christians™ are perfect, instead of responding with a typical, witless atheist one-liner which makes clear that you've only read the thread title.
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Everyone knows nobody's perfect. You can ask anyone, and they will tell you so.
And stop calling me Doris!
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08-29-2012, 09:09 PM
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Everyone knows nobody's perfect. You can ask anyone, and they will tell you so.
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Doris, Jesus is perfect! Please stop insulting Jesus before it is too late!
Freedom means voting for Donald Trump!
To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
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08-29-2012, 09:13 PM
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Doris, Jesus is perfect! Please stop insulting Jesus before it is too late!
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I'm not insulting Jesus. And also, I've read some of your other posts, and I must say that you are the most racist, prejudiced, discriminant, and blind-faithed person of which I've ever heard.
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Re: True Christians are Perfect! -
08-29-2012, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer
Doris, please read the original post, which explains why True Christians™ are perfect, instead of responding with a typical, witless atheist one-liner which makes clear that you've only read the thread title.
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AtheistZero, please read the original post, which explains why True Christians™ are perfect, instead of responding with more idiotic whining about people not calling you by your "real" name, which you've decided to keep . . . "controversial".
I think Doris is much better a name than Controversial.
Bible boring? Nonsense!
Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
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08-29-2012, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer
AtheistZero, please read the original post, which explains why True Christians™ are perfect, instead of responding with more idiotic whining about people not calling you by your "real" name, which you've decided to keep . . . "controversial".
I think Doris is much better a name than Controversial.
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I keep my name hidden on the internet. And my name's not Doris!
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08-29-2012, 09:46 PM
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I keep my name hidden on the internet. And my name's not Doris!
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Too bad you can't follow simple instructions, to read the original post and respond to that instead of whining about your name, NotDoris.
BTW, controversial. Click and see why we are laughing at you, ignoramus.
Bible boring? Nonsense!
Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
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Re: True Christians are Perfect! -
12-22-2012, 08:20 AM
So I was reading this just for laughs but felt like replying.
How are true Christians infallible? It's impossible that you've never made a mistake, and if you think you haven't then that's a mistake.
It'll be helpful when all your old asses die off. Nobody in the newer generations believes this crap anymore and it's better to not have you people brainwashing them. Hope this church dies out soon.
Had fun getting mindpiffleed here with all the absurd reasoning.
Also, I'm 'the devil'. Go ahead and freak the hell out.
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12-22-2012, 08:43 AM
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How are true Christians infallible? It's impossible that you've never made a mistake, and if you think you haven't then that's a mistake.
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The Bible doesn't say we are infallible. Only the scriptures and Jesus are infallible. The Bible says we are perfect and without sin. There's a big difference.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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12-22-2012, 08:54 AM
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I would also like to add to this excellent piece of witnessing the fact that, as perfect people, our judgment is infallible, and that we can't possibly be wrong about anything whatsoever.
And this is the most important one: We have the Mind of Christ. So, if anyone disagrees with us, this automatically means he disagrees with Christ. As people with the Mind of Christ, we are right about everything by definition!
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The contradiction starting early eh? I mean, how can you not think that sounds ridiculous?
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Re: True Christians are Perfect! -
12-22-2012, 09:28 AM
What kind of behaviour is that?
You didn't even introduce yourself yet, and start to curse at such good christians? Calling yourself "the devil"?
Seriously, even though I despite the devil, I would never think he would be someone as pathetic as you.
True christians are perfect, because they follow every word of the bible, so they are just as God wanted us to be.
The day that decent christians extinct, no prayer on earth can save humanity.
And you are wrong about the newer generation. I know many good christians and my children will also follow the bible in every word.
I feel sorry for you, since your underdeveloped mind will never notice the holy spirit all around you. What a sad, sad life you must have. Shame on your parents, for letting you become this spoilt!
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Re: True Christians are Perfect! -
12-22-2012, 09:39 AM
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The contradiction starting early eh? I mean, how can you not think that sounds ridiculous?
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I don't know what you mean by "early" yours is the 197th post.
Neither Associate Pastor Jones nor Mrs Hennig are contradicting anyone. You seem to be confusing a Judgement with the person making it. The two are quite different, especially in this context where Judgement is an expression of the Mind of Christ, which is the Mind of God.
And that is quite different from a Christian claiming to be God.
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12-22-2012, 09:40 AM
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What kind of behaviour is that?
You didn't even introduce yourself yet, and start to curse at such good christians? Calling yourself "the devil"?
Seriously, even though I despite the devil, I would never think he would be someone as pathetic as you.
True christians are perfect, because they follow every word of the bible, so they are just as God wanted us to be.
The day that decent christians extinct, no prayer on earth can save humanity.
And you are wrong about the newer generation. I know many good christians and my children will also follow the bible in every word.
I feel sorry for you, since your underdeveloped mind will never notice the holy spirit all around you. What a sad, sad life you must have. Shame on your parents, for letting you become this spoilt!
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Bolded part's sad but true. Not sad because they believe in a God but sad that you probably brainwashed them to think like you do and be intolerant to everyone else.
And wasn't the reason you flocked to religion because you had a sad, sad life and needed something to have faith in?
First post was just for fun, didn't put much thought into it. So yeah, might be a little off. And weird. Heh.
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