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Default The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-19-2009, 04:00 PM

There's been talk about the Holocaust around here and I feel I need to correct some mistakes and assumptions. I've already said in another thread Hitler could be in Heaven. He was acting as part of God's plan. If he took Jesus into his heart, he's in Heaven, just like everyone of us can be. Nobody knows what happened in that bunker and if he killed himself or not.

The holocaust happened. My grandfather was in WW2 and he saw some of them. If you want to call my grandfather a liar we can arrange a place and time for you to do that to my face. Living in Europe I have seen some camps and there's just too many of them to be a conspiracy. Yes, millions died.

They died because God loves us. The holocaust happened so we would get Israel started again. God had to do this to get things ready for the second coming of Jesus. We were on the right track! George Bush knew God was guiding him. He told other leaders about it:

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In 2003 while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France's President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated.
In the same year he spoke to Chirac, Bush had reportedly said to the Palestinian foreign minister that he was on "a mission from God" in launching the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and was receiving commands from the Lord.
There can be little doubt now that President Bush's reason for launching the war in Iraq was, for him, fundamentally religious. He was driven by his belief that the attack on Saddam's Iraq was the fulfilment of a Biblical prophesy in which he had been chosen to serve as the instrument of the Lord.
We are all working for the Lord and let us pray the second coming is soon. Remember to vote for a God driven candidate in all future elections so we can help achieve this goal in our life times!

God loves us and that's why there was a second world war, a first one and every other war! Do not pretend you have the ability to question God's plan! You must accept it.


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10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-21-2009, 10:24 PM

"'And they the hunters should hunt them,' that will be the Jews. 'From every mountain and from every hill and from out of the holes of the rocks.' If that doesn't describe what Hitler did in the holocaust who can't see that?


Hitler was a hunter. And the Bible says -- Jeremiah writing -- 'They shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and from the holes of the rocks,' meaning there's no place to hide. Hitler was simply doing God's work.


Jeremiah wrote it. It was the truth and it is the truth. How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel.


Because God loves the Jews he had Hitler and other good Christians slay 6 million of them because they would not return to Israel. The lesson here is, DO WHAT GOD COMMANDS OR DIE! and then burn in hell for all eternity.



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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-21-2009, 10:29 PM

I sincerely doubt there was any foul play in those concentration camps. How many Jews were rounded up in those things? How many people actually died? If we take into account that the average 7-day cruise ship has at least one death, I don't think it is far-fetched to believe that the 6 million Holocaust deaths were all a result of natural causes and blown out of proportion by the scare tactics and fear mongering of the Liberal Left.
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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-21-2009, 10:35 PM

So you are saying it really was not just careless work place safety habits at the German Wonder Bread factories?

If it was a genocide, why didn't the joos simply hide someplace other than the ovens at the factories. I don't know, it just does not seem very smart. You would of thought they would of hidden in their bank vaults with all their stolen money. No fires in there!

It is hard to believe that 6 million were killed, seems like it did not even make a dent.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-21-2009, 10:59 PM

It saddens me to see two brothers fall for the liberal conspiracy like you two have. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

The liberals are the ones condemning Israel and trying to interfere with God's plan!!

You two had better run to your prayer closets and get on your knees, NOW!!

Did George Bush fail Israel? NO!

Do you deny God's plan?

Text books written by Republicans and available to all schoolchildren in nice Christian schools state the truth and that is millions of Jews were killed.

Do you deny the Bible and claim when God smote people it was due to accidents and faulty safety equipment?

How dare you pretend to think you know better than our soldiers who were there documenting it all! Do you not think one republican president since 1945 would have told us it was a mistake in accounting?

Brothers, God did what he did because he loves us all and wants us to be in heaven with him. Why do you want to delay the Second Coming?


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5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-21-2009, 11:05 PM

All I know is there was nothing about this in the KJV Bible as the 'holocaust' as you call it occurred after 1611, if it really did. I go by what I hear and read. I guess what I do not understand is what difference it makes. Being none of these joos were True Christians, they were all doomed to Eternal Damnation in Hell anyway, that is for sure. So what difference does a day make?


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-21-2009, 11:12 PM

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All I know is there was nothing about this in the KJV Bible as the 'holocaust' as you call it occurred after 1611, if it really did. I go by what I here and read. I guess what I do not understand is what difference it makes. Being none of these joos were True Christians, they were all doomed to Eternal Damnation in Hell anyway, that is for sure. So what difference does a day make?
It makes the difference only in the fact that it lead to the creation of the modern day Israel and that is a major step toward the Second Coming of Jesus!

Do you think the Demoncrats would have supported the effort to make Israel the power it is over a few accidents?
Yes, many things have occurred since 1611. But, those things are God's plan for us. It's through his love Jesus will come back, the sooner the better, and toss billions of people into Hell for failing to read and understand his loving words!!!
The Holocaust was just a sort of preview for what is coming up. Do you mean to diminish it's value by calling it accidents?


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5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
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It saddens me to see two brothers fall for the liberal conspiracy like you two have. You should be ashamed of yourselves...

Look, all I'm saying is that maybe those concentration camps weren't that bad. Every photo I've ever seen of Holocaust Jews showed a bunch of super-skinny people standing around digging holes and building things. In our shallow and image-conscious society with a struggling economy would this be such a bad thing? You lose 80 or 90 pounds in 3 months and fall to a healthy 75-pound-weight while learning practical architectural skills at the same time. The Holocaust was basically a rigorous weight-loss boot camp program and an ITT Tech education at the same time.

Auschwitz? More like Club Med.
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I've been wondering what "Arbeit macht frei" meant and your suggestion that there were Nazi fat farms certainly makes sense. After all, German food can be quite fattening – particularly their potato salad that is made with bacon. "Arbeit macht frei" probably means they did not have to listen to Richard Simmons.


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Look, all I'm saying is that maybe those concentration camps weren't that bad. Every photo I've ever seen of Holocaust Jews showed a bunch of super-skinny people standing around digging holes and building things. In our shallow and image-conscious society with a struggling economy would this be such a bad thing? You lose 80 or 90 pounds in 3 months and fall to a healthy 75-pound-weight while learning practical architectural skills at the same time. The Holocaust was basically a rigorous weight-loss boot camp program and an ITT Tech education at the same time.

Auschwitz? More like Club Med.
God doesn't like skinny people so no this wouldn't be a good thing:

Proverbs
13:4 The soul of the sluggard desireth, and hath nothing: but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat.

28:25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat.

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92:14 They shall still bring forth fruit in old age; they shall be fat and flourishing;


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5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-22-2009, 11:03 AM

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Look, all I'm saying is that maybe those concentration camps weren't that bad. Every photo I've ever seen of Holocaust Jews showed a bunch of super-skinny people standing around digging holes and building things. In our shallow and image-conscious society with a struggling economy would this be such a bad thing? You lose 80 or 90 pounds in 3 months and fall to a healthy 75-pound-weight while learning practical architectural skills at the same time. The Holocaust was basically a rigorous weight-loss boot camp program and an ITT Tech education at the same time.

Auschwitz? More like Club Med.
Not only were people concentrating but there were on a weight loss (though those snappy striped designed clothes they wore are slimming) program, and it was all free??? I have seen a lot of joo women on Long Island that could use a good lesson in concentrating and loosing weight.
I understand too, they had free, cutting edge medical care. You cannot get that today unless your are a mex-i-can or nigra. The more I look into this, the more I have a harder and harder time trying to see the downside.


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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-23-2009, 12:16 PM

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There's been talk about the Holocaust around here and I feel I need to correct some mistakes and assumptions. I've already said in another thread Hitler could be in Heaven. He was acting as part of God's plan. If he took Jesus into his heart, he's in Heaven, just like everyone of us can be. Nobody knows what happened in that bunker and if he killed himself or not.

The holocaust happened. My grandfather was in WW2 and he saw some of them. If you want to call my grandfather a liar we can arrange a place and time for you to do that to my face. Living in Europe I have seen some camps and there's just too many of them to be a conspiracy. Yes, millions died.

They died because God loves us. The holocaust happened so we would get Israel started again. God had to do this to get things ready for the second coming of Jesus. We were on the right track! George Bush knew God was guiding him. He told other leaders about it:

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God loves us and that's why there was a second world war, a first one and every other war! Do not pretend you have the ability to question God's plan! You must accept it.

well i'm afraid to say that being english i am suffering Gordon Brown as our leader,i can't believe god is behind that worm backed man,he is running our country into the ground along with the rest of the government...so given our election when it comes,i shall vote completely different.
do you really believe that hitler was working gods plan..our god is all loving,i am not believeing that god wanted or wants all the wars,or would indeed let a madman like hitler into heaven,infact the only place good enough for adolph is the fires of hell....
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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-23-2009, 01:48 PM

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well i'm afraid to say that being english i am suffering Gordon Brown as our leader,i can't believe god is behind that worm backed man,he is running our country into the ground along with the rest of the government...so given our election when it comes,i shall vote completely different.
do you really believe that hitler was working gods plan..our god is all loving,i am not believeing that god wanted or wants all the wars,or would indeed let a madman like hitler into heaven,infact the only place good enough for adolph is the fires of hell....
Listen here. It's all in Gawds plan for natural selection. Iffen he didn't kill dem Joos you be sitting in Hebrew school right this second talkin like you got phlem in your mouf and eatin stuff dat taste like cardboard and look like white doodys! Filter fish, my black ass!


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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-23-2009, 08:07 PM

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do you really believe that hitler was working gods plan..our god is all loving,i am not believeing that god wanted or wants all the wars,or would indeed let a madman like hitler into heaven,infact the only place good enough for adolph is the fires of hell....
Where did you get this ridiculous idea that God is "all loving"?

The Bible clearly lays out that He hates all who sin against Him, and He will condemn nearly everyone to an eternity in Hell.

How is that "love"?

He will resurrect everyone from the dead at judgment; those who obeyed His Laws, to an eternity serving Him in Heaven. Those who didn't, to eternal life of torture.

Wouldn't it be "loving" to just leave the sinners dead, instead of resurrecting them for infinite punishment?

Missy, you have a mighty sick idea of what "love" is!


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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-23-2009, 08:39 PM

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Where did you get this ridiculous idea that God is "all loving"?

The Bible clearly lays out that He hates all who sin against Him, and He will condemn nearly everyone to an eternity in Hell.

How is that "love"?

He will resurrect everyone from the dead at judgment; those who obeyed His Laws, to an eternity serving Him in Heaven. Those who didn't, to eternal life of torture.

Wouldn't it be "loving" to just leave the sinners dead, instead of resurrecting them for infinite punishment?

Missy, you have a mighty sick idea of what "love" is!

You think so huh?.I don't think i'm the one who is talking out of my ears here.
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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 06-23-2009, 08:57 PM

Angel, God is far from all loving. He is amazingly spiteful and cruel. All the more reason to live the life of a True Christian™. Then you have nothing to worry about.

I have never seen anyone talk out their ears. Was that hard to learn to do? Can you talk to two people at once?


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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 07-15-2009, 08:19 AM

I agree with the thread creator. God killed the Jews so Christians could enjoy their land. I don't see a problem.
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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 07-22-2009, 03:21 AM

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I agree with the thread creator. God killed the Jews so Christians could enjoy their land. I don't see a problem.
Um, the thread creator said that God let the Holocaust happen so the European powers would re-create Israel as a Jewish nation.

How exactly do you get "so Christians could enjoy their land" from that?


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Default Re: The Holocaust, a part of God's divine plan - 07-22-2009, 03:33 AM

So what you lot are trying to say, is that the systematic killing of 6 million jews, along with the countless number of other people that were killed as well, was a good thing? Doesn't seem very christian of you.

Is that hypocrisy I smell?
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