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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-11-2008, 10:21 AM

Your arguments are shallow and self-centered, they lack all application of evidence and, more importantly, faith. The lack of faith indicates that you are, and are unlikely ever to become, a True Christian and are thus damned to the eternal fires of the pit of Brimstone.

I do not say these things lightly for at Landover our pleasure and duty is to guide those who will hear and rebuke those who will not.1

Let us look at the Bible, for therein all things are clear. I think that it is worthwhile to see how God sees having a black skin:
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Job:30:30: My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.

Obviously, it is a sign of affliction and very much not to be desired.

Now let us look at God’s treatment of blacks. First realize that there were no white Ethiopians and still are not.
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2Ch:14:13: And Asa and the people that were with him pursued them unto Gerar: and the Ethiopians were overthrown, that they could not recover themselves; for they were destroyed before the LORD, and before his host; and they carried away very much spoil.
2Ch:16:8: Were not the Ethiopians and the Lubims a huge host, with very many chariots and horsemen? yet, because thou didst rely on the LORD, he delivered them into thine hand.
2Ch:21:16: Moreover the LORD stirred up against Jehoram the spirit of the Philistines, and of the Arabians, that were near the Ethiopians:
Isa:20:4: So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.
Jer:13:23: Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
Here we see that of the 18 references to Ethiopians in the Old Testament, blacks are not well regarded by God, Who tends to slaughter them. So let us look at the New Testament:
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Ac:8:27: And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
Ac:8:28: Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
Ac:8:29: Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
Ac:8:30: And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
Ac:8:31: And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
And here we see the conversion of the very first Ex-Negro (Landover is proud to be the only church that follows in these Glorious Footsteps.)

From this, we can see that if The Acts 8:27-31 mention this, then the ex-Negro was unknown prior to this.

• So, in simple terms, being black is an affliction of the Devil.
• God slaughters blacks and makes them the subject of reproving comparisons
• There were no ex-negro True Christians before Acts 8.
• Christ was born before the story told in Acts,
• Thus Christ was not black.
• If Christ was not black he was white
• All blacks have brown eyes and black hair
• Christ must therefore have had blue eyes and fair hair.

Now I hope this puts an end to this stupid speculation, as sharing my knowledge and faith has cause me to miss my duty with the Landover Volunteer Orphan Catcher Squad.





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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-11-2008, 01:00 PM

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• So, in simple terms, being black is an affliction of the Devil.
• God slaughters blacks and makes them the subject of reproving comparisons
• There were no ex-negro True Christians before Acts 8.
• Christ was born before the story told in Acts,
• Thus Christ was not black.
• If Christ was not black he was white
• All blacks have brown eyes and black hair
• Christ must therefore have had blue eyes and fair hair.
Umm,think you missed something in your biology class!
The darker pigmentation of the skin (that makes people black) is simply the body's self defense mechanism to protect from the sun! Have you ever noticed that the darkest skinned people are those that come from places like Nigeria where the sun is waaaaay stronger? Black people have a much superior protection against the sun than we do with our light skin, simply because they live in an environment where the sun rays are way too strong to be continuously exposed to the sun without major protection! Although we do get our share of sun during the summer time, the sun is no where near what it is in othe places, thus we have not needed to adapt with white skin! Its really just a question of your clever body adapting to its environment over time! In fact, the pigments in your body that make you sun tan, or even have freckles (if you have some) are the EXACT same as the ones that can make skin black! Its just that your pigmentation is not as intense.... actually, a white person can literaly become black with a ridiculuously bad and EXTREME exposure to the sun! I know a lady that went in Bronzing Saloons.... she fell asleep in the thing... which was already not very well regulated, and now she looks black!!

Oh and... just WHERE did you hear God slaughters black people???

"If Christ was not black he was white" Thats like pointing a dog (not knowing what it is) and saying "if this animal is not a cat then its a mouse" . No one ever said he was pitch-black! That would not make sense either considering where he came from! But you can't claim pure-white with blond eyes because he simply would not of survived t'ill adult hood had this been the case! Where he grew up it would of been a downright akward thing to be blond with blue eyes and white skin... in fact someone depicting these unusual traits (considering the place they lived) would of certainly have been shunned if not called "demon" or "witch". And most of all, no one would of listened to him!!! No one would of called him son of God because they would of shunned him for being so outrageously unusual! Its the same as if a back came today and said he was Jesus, being white and not accepting black people, then there is no way you would believe or accept that huh! You would shun that person, call him demon and wish his death... just because he looks different!! Having white skin and so on in Jerusalem was linked to being a Roman soldier... and lets just say Romans to Jews were the same as black people to you!
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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-11-2008, 01:31 PM

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Umm,think you missed something in your biology class!
Son, the bible has all the answers, nothing was added, nothing was missed out.
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The darker pigmentation of the skin (that makes people black) is […secular dumbed-down science omitted] black!!
You are quite aware that black absorbs more heat per square inch than white skin, so what protection is black going to give against heat? I don’t mind those who say they don’t know, I can’t abide those who have no grasp of elementary science.

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Oh and... just WHERE did you hear God slaughters black people???
Look at my post above, cretin.

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"If Christ was not black he was white" Thats like pointing a dog (not knowing what it is) and saying "if this animal is not a cat then its a mouse"
No it’s nothing like that there are many choices of animal and only 2 of skin color. Look at your friend the Islamist, Obama – he says he’s black – the media say he’s black but his mother was white. Based upon what this failure of a presidential Demoncrat says, you’re either black or white, and if you ain’t all white, your black
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No one ever said he was pitch-black!
So according to you, we should go around measuring skin tone, width of nostrils, thickness of lips, fuzziness of hair, etc to ensure racial purity? You sound racist friend and Landover does not tolerate racism!
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That would not make sense either considering where he came from!
Unless you’ve forgotten or are a heathen, you will recall Jesus came from God because the Son of God is God
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But you can't claim pure-white with blond eyes because he simply would not of survived t'ill adult hood[… irrelevancies deleted]
You show me in the Bible where anyone was persecuted for being white.
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Its the same as if a black came today and said he was Jesus, being white and not accepting black people, then there is no way you would believe or accept that huh! You would shun that person, call him demon and wish his death... just because he looks different!!
If you see the post above and read this one, you will doubtless have the good manners to state that God could never be black.
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Having white skin and so on in Jerusalem was linked to being a Roman soldier...
Oh! You were there at the time were you?... No, I thought not. Have you any biblical proof for this at all? No, I thought not.
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and lets just say Romans to Jews were the same as black people to you!
Because of the Constitution and Freedom of Speech, regrettably I cannot prevent you from saying anything, no matter how inane – however when you say, “Let’s just say” (note, I added the apostrophe) do not include me in that.

Anyway, what’s with your name? Orelia? Is that a fungal infection of the gums?





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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-11-2008, 04:17 PM

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Looks like a "flat-nosed, thick-lipped Negro" to me, doesn't it?
Nope. Looks like a Semite to me.

I see no Afro. I see no heavy forehead or forward-thrust jawline. According to the article you quote, a Jew at the time would have "olive skin". Is "olive" the same as "ebony"? Is "curly" the same as "nappy"?

No.

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Your arguments are shallow and self-centered, they lack all application of evidence and, more importantly, faith. The lack of faith indicates that you are, and are unlikely ever to become, a True Christian and are thus damned to the eternal fires of the pit of Brimstone.
What a bunch of crazy talk. You've got a few screws loose. Throwing bible verses at me isn't evidence. And faith in no way should be used as evidence in a debate like this.

Like I said before faith is only required for your belief in God. Faith is not required to believe the BS of another man's words - I believe the correct term for this is "gullible".

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Nope. Looks like a Semite to me.

I see no Afro. I see no heavy forehead or forward-thrust jawline. According to the article you quote, a Jew at the time would have "olive skin". Is "olive" the same as "ebony"? Is "curly" the same as "nappy"?

No.

So get over it.
Thank God someone a little more normal...and not crazy.

Fair enough Rev, you bring up good points on this thread.

But really, is he white? It seems to me that all of Christs depictions stray very far from this true image - thanks to the white Roman Catholic church setting the image for what Christ supposedly looked like.
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But really, is he white? It seems to me that all of Christs depictions stray very far from this true image - thanks to the white Roman Catholic church setting the image for what Christ supposedly looked like.
By "white Roman Catholic church" I assume you mean the "olive-skinned, dark-haired, swarthy ITALIAN" Roman Catholic church?

Yes, I thought that's what you meant.

And what makes this a "true image"? That's not a "true image" of Jesus, that's a hypothetical image of a typical 1st Century Jew!! What makes you think God would not stand out from the typical Jew of the time?

Even if Jesus looked EXACTLY like the image your magazine article presents, that would certainly not make Him a Negro, which is what you claim it says.


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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-11-2008, 09:31 PM



That's the picture I scanned out of my Deluxe Red-Letter Edition KJV and that's the picture hanging on the wall at Landover Sunday School.

God said it.
I believe it.
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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-11-2008, 10:43 PM

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By "white Roman Catholic church" I assume you mean the "olive-skinned, dark-haired, swarthy ITALIAN" Roman Catholic church?

Yes, I thought that's what you meant.
Sure, if you want to get technical about it. Let's just say European for the sake of not having to type that much.

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And what makes this a "true image"? That's not a "true image" of Jesus, that's a hypothetical image of a typical 1st Century Jew!! What makes you think God would not stand out from the typical Jew of the time?
I stand corrected. "Truer" would have been a better choice of a word, since it is hypothetical. I think you're also right when it comes to God's son being able to stand out from a crowd. I found an interesting point regarding this:

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Conservative Christians generally believe in the inerrancy of the Bible. They accept the statements in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke that Mary was a virgin when Jesus was conceived. That is, Jesus’ conception did not involve male sperm, This would imply that God either:
  • Created an living embryo with a unique human DNA in one of Mary’s fallopian tubes.
  • Created special DNA which fertilized an ovum produced by Mary’s body.
Thus, Jesus would have had DNA that was either 50% or 100% created uniquely by God. If so, then Jesus could have had any height, hair color, eye color, skin hue, style of nose, etc. He may or may not have resembled a typical Palestinian from 1st Century CE.
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What makes you think God would not stand out from the typical Jew of the time?
But to answer this question, we also must remember that Judas had to point out Jesus in order to lead to his arrest. Had Jesus differed so greatly in look from the common people of the time, it would have been easy for those arresting him to spot him out from a crowd, thus not even requiring Judas to sell out Jesus.

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Even if Jesus looked EXACTLY like the image your magazine article presents, that would certainly not make Him a Negro, which is what you claim it says.
What makes a Negro a Negro? Is it that he comes from Africa? Is it the dark skin? Is it the brown eyes?

Afros certainly aren't the tell all. "Every Negro has an afro!" No, that's just silly.

At this juncture, it's safe to say Jesus is definitely not a blonde hair, blue eyed white person.

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That's the picture I scanned out of my Deluxe Red-Letter Edition KJV and that's the picture hanging on the wall at Landover Sunday School.

God said it.
I believe it.
THAT SETTLES IT.

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But to answer this question, we also must remember that Judas had to point out Jesus in order to lead to his arrest. Had Jesus differed so greatly in look from the common people of the time, it would have been easy for those arresting him to spot him out from a crowd, thus not even requiring Judas to sell out Jesus.
Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? Is the above really part of your argument that Jesus was black?
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Sure, if you want to get technical about it. Let's just say European for the sake of not having to type that much.
Or for the sake of not having to be accurate since you haven't a "proven" answer to your question. And because southern Italians are quite similar in appearance to Semites, and therefore would not want to paint a Northern European Jesus if they wanted to relate Him to themselves. Oops, huh?

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I stand corrected. "Truer" would have been a better choice of a word, since it is hypothetical.
Again, I don't see why it would be "truer". As you've noted, nobody was there painting a portrait, and the Bible has no description. Therefore . . . you have no idea what is a "truer" description.
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But to answer this question, we also must remember that Judas had to point out Jesus in order to lead to his arrest. Had Jesus differed so greatly in look from the common people of the time, it would have been easy for those arresting him to spot him out from a crowd, thus not even requiring Judas to sell out Jesus.
An interesting point. So, in order for your assertion to be correct (that Jesus was black), you are saying that all Jews in Palestine in the first century AD were Negroes. Yes? And you base this upon their looking, according to your article's "forensic reconstruction", like Semites?

What a brilliant argument you put forth.
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What makes a Negro a Negro? Is it that he comes from Africa? Is it the dark skin? Is it the brown eyes?
I'll let you look up the characteristics of the Negro race. It is a race, and it's neither Semitic nor Caucasian.
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At this juncture, it's safe to say Jesus is definitely not a blonde hair, blue eyed white person.
At this juncture, I'd say it's safe to say you have no more idea what Jesus looked like than Mills, and no evidence to fall back upon. In fact, the best you can possibly say is -- if all the historical descriptions are truly discredited, which I do not believe -- that nobody knows what Jesus looked like, except that He was not sufficiently remarkable in appearance for him to stand out as a freak when in a crowd of Jews.

I don't stand out as a freak when in a crowd of Jews. Does that mean I look like Jesus?
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I think Jesus was whiter than you and didn't wear glasses, brainiac.


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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-12-2008, 09:00 AM

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Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? Is the above really part of your argument that Jesus was black?
In order to understand the full context of the reply, you do in fact read the quotes above the message, don't you?

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Again, I don't see why it would be "truer". As you've noted, nobody was there painting a portrait, and the Bible has no description. Therefore . . . you have no idea what is a "truer" description.
Considering the picture was the result of a reconstruction from a 1st century skull from someone of the area, among other things:

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"The hair was the easiest - there's a reference in Paul which says it's disgraceful for a man to wear long hair, so it looks pretty sure that people of that period had to have reasonably short hair. The traditional depictions of Jesus with long flowing golden hair are probably inaccurate." Deciding on skin colour was more difficult, though. But the earliest depictions of Jews, which date from the 3rd Century, are - as far as can be determined - dark-skinned.
"We do seem to have a relatively dark skinned Jesus. In contemporary parlance I think the safest thing is to talk about Jesus as 'a man of colour'." This probably means olive-coloured, he says.



Only logic would tell us this depiction is more true than any coming from a painter who didn't know what Jesus looked like.

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An interesting point. So, in order for your assertion to be correct (that Jesus was black), you are saying that all Jews in Palestine in the first century AD were Negroes. Yes? And you base this upon their looking, according to your article's "forensic reconstruction", like Semites?
No not quite. If all of the people looked similar to the forensic reconstruction, how could Jesus have looked like a blonde haired blue eyed European? If he did, nobody would have had to point him out, he would have stuck out like a sore thumb.

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He was not sufficiently remarkable in appearance for him to stand out as a freak when in a crowd of Jews.
Now we're getting somewhere... What did those people look like at the time....???




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Hmm, according to what dipiction - the one closet racists hope is true or the one historical evidence + logic points to ?


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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-12-2008, 09:15 AM

Pastor Ezekial was kind enough to point out that I said someone "had a few screws loose" and kindly noted my "hateful comments"

I would like to send my deepest apologies and use this intermission to find other hateful comments within this forum, for the good of the community.

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Ugh! You've been watching too many Hollywood movies. Everyone knows that Hollywood is run by Commies like Sean Penn and his ex-whore Madonna. Ask yourself - how could those those uncivilized slant-eyes ever planned and executed a successful attack on Pearly Harbor, the biggest military port in Florida? And that's in the Greatest Nation on Earth! No way I'm gonna believe that. It was the Germans, with help from the ever-sinister Pope.
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Let us not forget that Jimi Hendrix was a Nigra, and therefore spoke Niglish....

Now, if you WANT to hear "Excuse me, while I kiss 'duh sky'," you will. However, it's clear to anyone who can comprehend Niglish (also known as Ebonics or Black English or Jive) that he is referencing slapping his overstuffed chocolate lips on a fine young white man's pursed pucker.
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As in homersexural. A damned queer, which God hates. Ok?

Now why don't you go to the introductions thread and tell us about yourself?

Are you one of these camel lovers?

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What a bunch of crazy talk. You've got a few screws loose. Throwing bible verses at me isn't evidence. And faith in no way should be used as evidence in a debate like this.
As a True Christian, I am used to and even welcome the vitriol thrown by Unsaved Trash for, to me it shows that the Unsaved Trash have Something against which to fight, and that is God.

Bible verses are the Word of God, and as such are the only evidence admissible, the speculation of mortals is of no consequence. I note that you too have used Bible verses in your argument; where does that leave you? Do you rely on God or not?

The vitriol you use disturbs the logical thinking of the mind, and thus the arguments put by such as you are never sound. Look what you have written; here is a True Christian forum, here is discussion of God and yet, amazingly, you say, “And faith in no way should be used as evidence in a debate like this.” I think my 4 year old granddaughter would laugh at this argument.

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Like I said before faith is only required for your belief in God. Faith is not required to believe the BS of another man's words - I believe the correct term for this is "gullible".
The difficulty you have here is that you are not dictating the terms of the Bible or Christianity. It is clear that you know nothing and are trying to move the ground to a position where your godless rhetoric might fool the unwary. Christ said that all we need is Faith. Without a belief in the Words of The Lord, we can have no faith. Thus your statement is shown to be silly.

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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-12-2008, 04:17 PM

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In order to understand the full context of the reply, you do in fact read the quotes above the message, don't you?
Yet you don't respond to the entire response, do you?

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"The hair was the easiest - there's a reference in Paul which says it's disgraceful for a man to wear long hair, so it looks pretty sure that people of that period had to have reasonably short hair. The traditional depictions of Jesus with long flowing golden hair are probably inaccurate." Deciding on skin colour was more difficult, though. But the earliest depictions of Jews, which date from the 3rd Century, are - as far as can be determined - dark-skinned.

"We do seem to have a relatively dark skinned Jesus. In contemporary parlance I think the safest thing is to talk about Jesus as 'a man of colour'." This probably means olive-coloured, he says.
Tell me, why would Jesus not have long hair? Do you know anything of the Nazarite Vow? I'm guessing not.

There is no reason to suspect Jesus was not frequently under a vow, in which case He would have been forbidden to cut His hair.

What happens to brown hair when exposed to the desert sun and allowed to grow long? It bleaches. Doesn't make for a blond man, (any more than Britney Spears is blond) but it does mean some of his hair will be lighter in color. There's no evidence that Jesus wore headwraps, so His hair would likely have bleached somewhat. Pictures depict Jesus as having light brown hair, not blond, which would be consistent with long hair bleached by the sun.

What happens to human skin when exposed to sunlight without benefit of sunscreen? It darkens. Big surprise there. Doesn't make one a Negro.

Again, you refuse to acknowledge that you have NO evidence whatsoever, but mere speculation, and that the speculations you present support the assertion that Jesus came in the form of a Semite, not a NEGRO.

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Hmm, according to what dipiction - the one closet racists hope is true or the one historical evidence + logic points to ?
It seems you are the closet racist, my friend.

Why do you continue to assert that Jesus took the form of a Negro, despite such an assertion contradicting all of your OWN "evidence"?


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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-12-2008, 08:39 PM

Thanks Rev. I think you're the most sane person on this forum.

I've learned that Jesus was not a negro. Though, he wasn't a white man either. His skil color almost reminds me of a Mexican (but of course Jesus wasn't a Mexican).

Thanks for the good debate Rodimer.



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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-12-2008, 09:30 PM

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Son, the bible has all the answers, nothing was added, nothing was missed out.
You are quite aware that black absorbs more heat per square inch than white skin, so what protection is black going to give against heat? I don’t mind those who say they don’t know, I can’t abide those who have no grasp of elementary science.

"Look at my post above, cretin."

No it’s nothing like that there are many choices of animal and only 2 of skin color. Look at your friend the Islamist, Obama – he says he’s black – the media say he’s black but his mother was white. Based upon what this failure of a presidential Demoncrat says, you’re either black or white, and if you ain’t all white, your black So according to you, we should go around measuring skin tone, width of nostrils, thickness of lips, fuzziness of hair, etc to ensure racial purity? You sound racist friend and Landover does not tolerate racism! Unless you’ve forgotten or are a heathen, you will recall Jesus came from God because the Son of God is God You show me in the Bible where anyone was persecuted for being white. If you see the post above and read this one, you will doubtless have the good manners to state that God could never be black. Oh! You were there at the time were you?... No, I thought not. Have you any biblical proof for this at all? No, I thought not. Because of the Constitution and Freedom of Speech, regrettably I cannot prevent you from saying anything, no matter how inane – however when you say, “Let’s just say” (note, I added the apostrophe) do not include me in that.

Anyway, what’s with your name? Orelia? Is that a fungal infection of the gums?
"You are quite aware that black absorbs more heat per square inch than white skin, so what protection is black going to give against heat? I don’t mind those who say they don’t know, I can’t abide those who have no grasp of elementary science."

Umm, you are aware that skin pigmentation is CAUSED by solar radiation (rays) and has nothing to do with HEAT do you? Yes the color black attracts heat better than any other color... but it is only because it absorbes light better than any other colour (thats why we see it black, because it absorbs light)! Other colours make light rebounce better, thus they absorb less and warm less fast. But the thing is that the pigmentation of the skin is a little more complex than "basic elemantary knowledge!". The pigmentation is produced by the body as a protection from DAMAGE TO THE SKIN CAUSED BY UV RAYS that penetrate the skin and burns it (that is why we have sunburns when we are out in the sun for too long!), when you use lotion screen you are putting an invisible barrier that will help deflect the sun better, the same way darker skin does! SKIN COLOUR HAS NOTHING to do with protecting from temperature! I never said that dark skin made you less hot ( I believe the contrary), just that it keeps your skin from burning real easily like ours that is so easy to sunburn!
"I can’t abide those who have no grasp of elementary science." Well you don't seem to grasp it well!

"Look at my post above, cretin."
Am I supposed to drink your words and call it truth? You don't believe ME just like that, so how can I take your word as true and worthy just like that? I need better proof!


"No it’s nothing like that there are many choices of animal and only 2 of skin color." Polar bears have black skin to keep them warmer! Their white fur is very different than that of other animals! It is almost like optic fiber, they have a certain transparency to let through the sunlight, and the dark skin just sucks in whatever feeble light there is too helo them warm up easily! (see I do believe dark skin attracts light and heat ). They are not from satan! They are just well made for the harsh environment they are in!

As for most animals, it is not surprising that white skin tends to dominate as most animals have fur or feathers! No need for extra skin protection from the sun as it already cannot (or has a pretty hard time) reaching their bodies!
And what about dogs and other animals with black skin on their mussle? Are they demons?

"ou’re either black or white, and if you ain’t all white, your black So according to you, we should go around measuring skin tone, width of nostrils, thickness of lips, fuzziness of hair, etc to ensure racial purity? You sound racist friend and Landover does not tolerate racism!"
How can I be racist by accepting people from every skin tone?
I do not beleive in judging a person by the skin color... how does that make me racist? I never said we should ensure racial purity, just pointed out there ARE differences! But I ACCEPT them! Not shun them? Please believe me I am white, and I accept black people, and I am NOT racist!
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Default Re: Jesus Was Not a Black Man! - 06-12-2008, 09:47 PM

I am sorry if ever I mentionned "heat" in my first explanation! Its just that I don't know how to explain this with everyone comprehending the essential! I don't know the knowlegde of everyone here and I sometimes realize I might be using complicated terms so I try to smoothe things a little, but I don't always know how to make it simple for everyone, I just try my best! In other words, sorry if ever I confuse anyone!
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Umm, you are aware that skin pigmentation is CAUSED by solar radiation (rays) and has nothing to do with HEAT do you? Yes the color black attracts heat better than any other color... but it is only because it absorbes light better than any other colour (thats why we see it black, because it absorbs light)! Other colours make light rebounce better, thus they absorb less and warm less fast. But the thing is that the pigmentation of the skin is a little more complex than "basic elemantary knowledge!". The pigmentation is produced by the body as a protection from DAMAGE TO THE SKIN CAUSED BY UV RAYS that penetrate the skin and burns it (that is why we have sunburns when we are out in the sun for too long!), when you use lotion screen you are putting an invisible barrier that will help deflect the sun better, the same way darker skin does! SKIN COLOUR HAS NOTHING to do with protecting from temperature! I never said that dark skin made you less hot (I believe the contrary), just that it keeps your skin from burning real easily like ours that is so easy to sunburn!
So you’re suggesting that God made nigras black so they’d get hot but not burn? A sort of “non-fatal torment”? Hmmmm, I suppose that could be “The Curse of Ham”


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You are suggesting that if I caught a piccaninny and left it in a dark room, that it would turn out white? I must say it seems doubtful but the servants at Landover have piccaninnies from time to time and I suppose we could do the experiment.


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I’m telling you what God says and with faith, you just accept God is Truth.
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What? Dark skin attracts light and heat? You’re suggesting the radiation sort of “bends" towards it?
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They are not from satan! They are just well made for the harsh environment they are in!
I don’t think you have taken in the whole article.
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What about animals with black bits? I assume it’s because they are a bit bad. And if anything you said is true, are you suggesting that God made a dog’s nose back so it could “get a bit warm”? My dog’s nose is brown – where are we with that one?
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I do not beleive in judging a person by the skin color... how does that make me racist? I never said we should ensure racial purity, just pointed out there ARE differences! But I ACCEPT them! Not shun them? Please believe me I am white, and I accept black people, and I am NOT racist!
Yes, yes, I’m sure you often say, “Some of my friends are black” and I’m sure your black servants all recognize how kind you are to them.

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Thanks Rev. I think you're the most sane person on this forum.

I've learned that Jesus was not a negro. Though, he wasn't a white man either. His skil color almost reminds me of a Mexican (but of course Jesus wasn't a Mexican).
No, He wasn't.

But Daisy Fuentes is. Does the skin color your "scienticians" think He presented look like hers? And what color is her hair?



(Pastors, please forgive the racy photograph; it's actually the most demure I could find of this harlot!)

Or did you mean more like Vicente Fox and his wife? What color is HER hair?



I've decided you're right. Jesus' skin and hair color were probably similar to these modern-day Mexicans.


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