[BelieverInGod]

Hello Pastors,

I am writing to you after spending a lot of my day in prayer. You see today is my 2-year-old's birthday and he has been quite ill. He has been vomiting and refusing to drink water. His vomit smells fermented, which I've never smelled before. I am not sure what to do. I've left a message for Seth to call me, but he has not returned my call.

Should I take him to a hospital? Or is this simply a matter of faith? His tummy doesn't hurt when I push on it, but he has been belching, vomiting and farting quite a bit. I tried to get some yogurt into him, but he's refusing any food or water at the moment.

To be honest my two oldest boys never needed medical care beyond being stitched up. So I'm really at a loss here.

Help me please

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Could be demons. Is he speaking in wierd voices? Speaking French? Levitating?

[Wide-Open]

Sounds like a bad case of colon demons to me.

Forget hospital, I think praying is what is really needed here. Maybe you can call Sister Justina, she knows how to deal with those demons.

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Could be demons. Is he speaking in wierd voices? Speaking French? Levitating?

No none of that, in fact just the opposite. Very quiet, not interested in anything, just wants to lay there and be left alone.

Originally Posted by Wide-Open

Sounds like a bad case of colon demons to me.

Forget hospital, I think praying is what is really needed here. Maybe you can call Sister Justina, she knows how to deal with those demons.

I'll call her right away.

I just wish Seth would call me back. Not that he can do anything.

[Levi Jones]

You should always call the prayer warriors. As the Bible says,

James 5:14-15 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

We'll all gather for a prayer session. That is sure to work.

[BelieverInGod]

Brothers, I am in dire straights here. He's sicker this morning. I spoke with Sister Justina and she say's he's not getting better because he doesn't have enough faith. He's 2! Of course he doesn't understand the Bible or Jesus Love and Sacrifice for us. He barely understands the difference between a girl and a boy.

Maybe if I just take him in for diagnostics so that we know what we're praying for? Did he swallow something? He's still not eating and I've been forced to rub honey on his gums and force fluids into him. Seth called last night, but I had fallen asleep in the boys room and didn't hear the phone. Now I can't get hold of him again.

[James Hutchins]

Did you tell him to snap out of it?

Perhaps you are not praying hard enough?

Have you done anything to upset Jesus?

You know, it could be the grandparents, they are always meddling. Can you send them away? If your son gets better, you'll know that was the reason.

If you take him to the hospital, they might try to put nigra blood in him. Then you'll have a shiftless son.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Don't forget that God is in control. Your baby probably did something wrong. Perhaps it was stimulating itself, or it had a lustful thought while someone was cleaning its anus. I'm afraid if you take it to a hospital, God will interpret that as a direct challenge to His Almighty Will®. Here are some scriptures to remind you that God will heal your child if it is deserved.

Exodus 15:26 (King James Version) 26And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.


Deuteronomy 7:15 (King James Version) 15And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee.


Psalm 103:1-5 (King James Version) 1Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. 2Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: 3Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases; 4Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies; 5Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.

Psalm 103:2-3 (King James Version) 2Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: 3Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

Psalm 107:19-20 (King James Version) 19Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saveth them out of their distresses. 20He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.


Psalm 147:3 (King James Version) 3He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.


Proverbs 3:7-8 (King James Version) 7Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. 8It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.


Isaiah 19:22 (King James Version) 22And the LORD shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the LORD, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them.


Isaiah 53:5 (King James Version) 5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.


Isaiah 57:17-18 (King James Version) 17For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart. 18I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners.


Jeremiah 30:12-14, 17 12For thus saith the LORD, Thy bruise is incurable, and thy wound is grievous. 13There is none to plead thy cause, that thou mayest be bound up: thou hast no healing medicines. 14All thy lovers have forgotten thee; they seek thee not; for I have wounded thee with the wound of an enemy, with the chastisement of a cruel one, for the multitude of thine iniquity; because thy sins were increased.17For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the LORD; because they called thee an Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh after.


Malachi 4:2 (King James Version) 2But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

I'd pray harder if I were you. I'll send a team of Prayer Warriors over to help you out (for a nominal fee), but you'll need to keep them stocked with bacon sandwiches. Those boys do like their bacon sandwiches.

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

I'd pray harder if I were you. I'll send a team of Prayer Warriors over to help you out (for a nominal fee), but you'll need to keep them stocked with bacon sandwiches. Those boys do like their bacon sandwiches.

Thank you Pastor! Just send the bill to Seth, he handles the finances in our family.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Sister, given the child's age (two) and unsaved status (unable to comprehend Jesus' temporary sacrifice), I'd strongly suggest that you take immediate action to ensure the child's survival. You don't want your child going to Hell, do you?

Yes, call the doctor -- and then look to your own salvation.

Jesus promises to answer the prayers of True Christians™. Your prayers have gone unheeded. Why do you suppose that is, Sister?

Is it possible that you have sinned in some way? You do realize that would mean you are not a True Christian™, as True Christians™ are without sin.

I'm praying for you, Sister, that you get right with Jesus. I want to see you in Paradise one day, as we spend eternity forever servicing and praising and singing for Jesus!

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Sister, given the child's age (two) and unsaved status (unable to comprehend Jesus' temporary sacrifice), I'd strongly suggest that you take immediate action to ensure the child's survival. You don't want your child going to Hell, do you?

This is my fear Brother, then again my fear may be what is not saving my little boy. Obviously if I fear that Jesus isn't going to heal him, then I don't have enough faith.

Yes, call the doctor -- and then look to your own salvation.

Jesus promises to answer the prayers of True Christians™. Your prayers have gone unheeded. Why do you suppose that is, Sister?

Seth pulled in around 10 this morning and corrected me for not taking the child to the hospital earlier. He has taken Mark into Des Moines. He told me to stay home because "he just can't look at me right now"

Is it possible that you have sinned in some way? You do realize that would mean you are not a True Christian™, as True Christians™ are without sin.

I think this may have been a test of faith that I failed miserably. If I had enough faith, I would have just called Pastor Zeke and everything would have been fine in God's hands. Instead I worried about whether or not to take him to the hospital, actually questioning the healing power of Jesus. I'm so torn up inside right now.

I'm praying for you, Sister, that you get right with Jesus. I want to see you in Paradise one day, as we spend eternity forever servicing and praising and singing for Jesus!

Oh Reverend, how do I increase my faith? How do I put my complete love and trust into the LORD? Why do I always seem to have these demons in the back of my head questioning the power of JESUS.

I'm so confused right now.

[James Hutchins]

I cannot beleive that Seth does not trust baby Jesus.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod

Oh Reverend, how do I increase my faith? How do I put my complete love and trust into the LORD? Why do I always seem to have these demons in the back of my head questioning the power of JESUS.

I'm so confused right now.

Sister, I find it disturbing that your husband immediately took the child to the hospital without even stopping to pray first. Is it possible you have been under an unhealthy influence at home?

[Wash O'Hanley]

I don't want to be the odd one out here but sometimes faith healing simply doesn't work. There are a lot of people out there begging for God's time, some of them with superfluous demands, others in dire need. God simply doesn't have the time for all of them.

Back in the 80s I accidentally went to a laundromat owned by the Church of Christian Science. Since they don't believe in using soap to clean your laundry everyone just put their clothes in a big pile in the middle of the room and prayed for them to get clean. I don't think I need to tell you how that ended up.

While I think that ultimately taking the child to the hospital was the right choice, it may have perhaps been a little soon to go to such measures. It sounds like the child had only been vomiting and refusing food for a day or so. Perhaps another two days and a call to another housewife for a second opinion would have been the better course of action.

[Seth Campbell]

Well I'm back from the hospital.

Seems that the boy had swallowed a piece of string. Not sure how it happened, but I can tell you that the wife has been corrected for this. The string was bound up inside his stomach and he had emergency surgery to remove it. He will be in the hospital for a couple of days. If this had been left any longer his intestines would have started to die.

I'm a little disturbed that people here told her not to take him in. She's leaving me crazy messages, I can't get her on the house phone. I come in and I've got that Justina woman screaming about demons in my face. Really? Demons took the form of an 18" piece of string?

The wife is in her prayer closet at the moment considering her actions over 1. somehow letting him get hold of that string (although I do wonder if older brothers had something to do with it) and 2. Not taking the child TO THE HOSPITAL! Really people, why do you think God gave us these institutions? Why do you think God created antibiotics and surgeons? Not so that we could stay home and pray!

[James Hutchins]

I bet the string was straight with a slight hook on one end, right?
It was a sign from God, as miniature staff being used to call your son to the right hand of God to be a angel. And you denied God that.

I am glad I do not live near you!

[Seth Campbell]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

I bet the string was straight with a slight hook on one end, right?
It was a sign from God, as miniature staff being used to call your son to the right hand of God to be a angel. And you denied God that.

No it was balled up and stuck in the intestine, it wasn't moving and therefore anything he ate had nowhere to go.

I am glad I do not live near you!

Is that a threat

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by Seth Campbell

No it was balled up and stuck in the intestine, it wasn't moving and therefore anything he ate had nowhere to go.

As I predicted: lint demons.

Of course they may be surgically removed, but they are still demons. It's only a temporary solution. Something - or someone-, Brother Seth, is not right in your household, and I think we both know who that may be.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Seth Campbell

Well I'm back from the hospital.

Seems that the boy had swallowed a piece of string. Not sure how it happened, but I can tell you that the wife has been corrected for this. The string was bound up inside his stomach and he had emergency surgery to remove it. He will be in the hospital for a couple of days. If this had been left any longer his intestines would have started to die.

I'm a little disturbed that people here told her not to take him in. She's leaving me crazy messages, I can't get her on the house phone. I come in and I've got that Justina woman screaming about demons in my face. Really? Demons took the form of an 18" piece of string?

The wife is in her prayer closet at the moment considering her actions over 1. somehow letting him get hold of that string (although I do wonder if older brothers had something to do with it) and 2. Not taking the child TO THE HOSPITAL! Really people, why do you think God gave us these institutions? Why do you think God created antibiotics and surgeons? Not so that we could stay home and pray!

Did she keep the Prayer Warriors stocked with bacon sandwiches? I specifically told her about that.