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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:08 PM

Also I must say the forum titles, "Unsaved Trash" and etc. are very insulting and also off-putting. It gives into the stereotype that some people have about Christians. Also, please do not judge people that they are going to hell. It is NEVER a person's place to Judge, that is solely the place of our Lord God. To Judge is to usurp his authority, I do not think we want that.

I must say that I have been very disappointed with the activity of some of the people on this forum who claim to be Christian and will be doing lots of praying tonight.
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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:10 PM

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Also I must say the forum titles, "Unsaved Trash" and etc. are very insulting and also off-putting. It gives into the stereotype that some people have about Christians. Also, please do not judge people that they are going to hell. It is NEVER a person's place to Judge, that is solely the place of our Lord God. To Judge is to usurp his authority, I do not think we want that.

I must say that I have been very disappointed with the activity of some of the people on this forum who claim to be Christian and will be doing lots of praying tonight.
You are speaking for me?
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10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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I am a Christian and have been saved since I was 15. I firmly believe there is no compromise with the word of God. However, that being said we all have to remember the times we live in. While those videos sure are disturbing, to make a generalization about video games is also disturbing. While Christians should never adapt God's teachings, they DO need to adapt to the times. I play video games as my form of entertainment, however I do NOT place it over God, family, or my friends. As technology has progressed, and continues to progress, there will be those to see it as Satan's influence. I see it as the product of people, God's creation. Let's not forget where we are coming from here. Let's also not forget, that while we are on a Christian forum, even in private we must be witnesses to God and his word. To say that non-Christians are not welcome here, as I have seen posted in other threads, sounds of elitism and would only benefit Satan. Why do I say this? Christianity is not a private society where a select few can join, anyone can come to know the love of Christ, and to act like a bunch of hooligans to anyone with a differing opinion only serves to defeat our purpose on this Earth. Which is, ultimately, to be witnesses to Christ. Let's not listen to Satan ourselves, and fight back at people who wish to fight with us. It is only Satan's provocation and to fight back is to give in to Satan.

Let's ponder on that for a while...
I suggest you review your opinion of what the criteria is for being Saved.
Please specify where we have misquoted The Bible and it's meanings.



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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:16 PM

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I am a Christian and have been saved since I was 15. I firmly believe there is no compromise with the word of God. However, that being said we all have to remember the times we live in. While those videos sure are disturbing, to make a generalization about video games is also disturbing. While Christians should never adapt God's teachings, they DO need to adapt to the times. I play video games as my form of entertainment, however I do NOT place it over God, family, or my friends. As technology has progressed, and continues to progress, there will be those to see it as Satan's influence. I see it as the product of people, God's creation. Let's not forget where we are coming from here. Let's also not forget, that while we are on a Christian forum, even in private we must be witnesses to God and his word. To say that non-Christians are not welcome here, as I have seen posted in other threads, sounds of elitism and would only benefit Satan. Why do I say this? Christianity is not a private society where a select few can join, anyone can come to know the love of Christ, and to act like a bunch of hooligans to anyone with a differing opinion only serves to defeat our purpose on this Earth. Which is, ultimately, to be witnesses to Christ. Let's not listen to Satan ourselves, and fight back at people who wish to fight with us. It is only Satan's provocation and to fight back is to give in to Satan.

Let's ponder on that for a while...
Nicely said. It's nice to know that there is someone with common sense on this board. (No offense to those who actually do, but from the little bit that I've seen, not everyone is exactly "connecting the dots upstairs" metaphorically speaking.)
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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:20 PM

I challenge you to specify in the Bible where it does not tell us to always be good witnesses to Christ. Ask yourself, what is the best way to do this? Is it by attacking the very ones who need guidance the most, or is it the best way through UNDERSTANDING where they are coming from and then offering a Christian perspective. I have found, in my experiences at least, the best way to convert those to Christianity is not by knocking them over the head with it, but taking time and gradually introduce them to Christ and the glory He brings us. Please understand, we all sin, and we should not look upon those that are unsaved as spawns of Satan, which they are not. But as creations of God, which they are. We should also treat them with respect, compassion, and empathy. If we do not, how can we expect them to believe the word of God? Please, pray to God and ask yourself this.
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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:26 PM

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You are speaking for me?
Now, name names and provide scripture as to where exactly they are wrong.
If you wish to usurp lord God's authority then I am not speaking for you. I will also pray for you.
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I challenge you to specify in the Bible where it does not tell us to always be good witnesses to Christ. Ask yourself, what is the best way to do this? Is it by attacking the very ones who need guidance the most, or is it the best way through UNDERSTANDING where they are coming from and then offering a Christian perspective. I have found, in my experiences at least, the best way to convert those to Christianity is not by knocking them over the head with it, but taking time and gradually introduce them to Christ and the glory He brings us. Please understand, we all sin, and we should not look upon those that are unsaved as spawns of Satan, which they are not. But as creations of God, which they are. We should also treat them with respect, compassion, and empathy. If we do not, how can we expect them to believe the word of God? Please, pray to God and ask yourself this.
Why do you only pick out the bits of The Bible that make you feel better?
The Bible has to be read as a whole, not just taken out of context.
I suggest you read through the only REAL Bible (King James) and then come back here and tell us we are wrong.
False Liberal Christians like you make me sick.



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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:30 PM

Please do not attack me Talitha, as I did not attack you. I did not pick bits and pieces out of the Bible or take it out of context. I merely know what I read and I know what I know from my relationship with God and Jesus Christ. I have never physically or psychologically attacked you, so I would appreciate a mature, Christian-oriented discussion on the matter. Do you not see how a response like what you just gave me would deter the unbelievers from ever accepting Jesus into their life. Is that not our ultimate goal on this Earth? While it is great that we live our life doing our best to obey God's word, even greater treasures await us in Heaven if we also are great witnesses to His word.
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Please do not attack me Talitha, as I did not attack you. I did not pick bits and pieces out of the Bible or take it out of context. I merely know what I read and I know what I know from my relationship with God and Jesus Christ. I have never physically or psychologically attacked you, so I would appreciate a mature, Christian-oriented discussion on the matter. Do you not see how a response like what you just gave me would deter the unbelievers from ever accepting Jesus into their life. Is that not our ultimate goal on this Earth? While it is great that we live our life doing our best to obey God's word, even greater treasures await us in Heaven if we also are great witnesses to His word.
So, you think you are doing God a favor by coming to a True Christian™ Forum, to attack our beliefs?
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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:36 PM

I am not attacking your belief. I am challenging your point of view. I am not sure why you would view another Christian's opinion as an attack.
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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:38 PM

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As I saw, mohler was simply asking questions. To get a better understanding. And as I recall, when people asked Jesus questions, he not only responded kindly, and wisely, but he took no offense to being asked questions.
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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:43 PM

Then tell us which parts of The Bible tell you we are wrong?
You are the one's in here Judging us.



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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:44 PM

Mohler you clearly have not read the Bible if you believe we cannot judge. The Lord has commanded us to judge. Here are some Scriptural verses.

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John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
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As I saw, mohler was simply asking questions. To get a better understanding. And as I recall, when people asked Jesus questions, he not only responded kindly, and wisely, but he took no offense to being asked questions.
Isaiah 49:26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.



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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:46 PM

Then God is also on your side when you refer to the unsaved as filth and scum and to tell them they are unwelcome here? When I read these remarks, specifically by "Pastor Ezekial", I became saddened.
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Isaiah 49:26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
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Are you familiar with the old computer phrase "Does not compute!"? Would you explain yourself further?
LOL, indeed you do not compute. Is your brain some outmoded 386 processor?

You said Jesus only talked to people kindly. Talitha showed you some quotes of Jesus talking in a not-so-nice way.

Basically she's showing you that you are wrong since you really don't know what you're talking about since you never read the Bible. Get it, now?



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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 10:55 PM

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LOL, indeed you do not compute. Is your brain some outmoded 386 processor?

You said Jesus only talked to people kindly. Talitha showed you some quotes of Jesus talking in a not-so-nice way.

Basically she's showing you that you are wrong since you really don't know what you're talking about since you never read the Bible. Get it, now?
Apparently my brain is processing grammar faster than yours. Read what I said: "Not only did Jesus etc., but he also"
"Not only, but also."

I never said Jesus ONLY talked to people kindly, I said he not only did something, but he also did something else.

Learn to read things properly (Might explain much of the nonsense on the board, not being able to read things correctly and whatnot.)
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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 11:14 PM

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Isaiah 49:26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
But are you aware that the main point I was getting at was the fact that you never answered the question. As you folk like to say "Don't pick and choose. Look at the whole thing."
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Default Re: WARNING: World of Warcraft Game Causes Demon Possession! - 07-19-2009, 11:27 PM

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Apparently my brain is processing grammar faster than yours. Read what I said: "Not only did Jesus etc., but he also"
"Not only, but also."

I never said Jesus ONLY talked to people kindly, I said he not only did something, but he also did something else.

Learn to read things properly (Might explain much of the nonsense on the board, not being able to read things correctly and whatnot.)
You are trying to back-pedal. You know what you said. Allow me to quote it for you.

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As I saw, mohler was simply asking questions. To get a better understanding. And as I recall, when people asked Jesus questions, he not only responded kindly, and wisely, but he took no offense to being asked questions.
It is obvious you have a distorted view of Jesus. You seem to think that Jesus only talked like a nice guy. If you actually read the Bible you would see that Jesus can be quite the opposite.

So it is you that has the broken processor, not me.



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