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Originally Posted by Father Thomas Martin
Do you have any proof that Catholicism is fake and that it started so many other religions and is plotting to kill all of you? (Besides these hateful Chick tracts)
Jesus said His True Church would last from the Holy Spirit's descent to His Second Coming. Or do you dispute His words, "...and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it?" (If you believe in a schism early, then you believe these gates did prevail!)
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The Good Pastor may reply, but in the meantime:
M't:16:15:
He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
M't:16:16:
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
M't:16:17:
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
M't:16:18:
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mr Martin, the odd verse here and there is not good enough, lets have some context.
Yes, yes, there is the play upon words in Greek, Latin and Aramaic – something that the “church” of Rome has taken out of context and to heart to justify their unbridled lust for power and wealth as usual.
Ask yourself, “To what is Christ referring when He says,
“and upon this rock I will build my church””? Surely it is obvious that He is referring to the answer given in M't:16:16:
“Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
If it helps you, just see the words, “this rock” as “the belief that I am the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And see how much sense it makes.
This is the basis of Christianity.
If it is not, why do we then get,
“M't:16:22:
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
M't:16:23:
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.”?
Was Peter always going to be the best choice? I think not.
On the other hand, I can’t think of a pope that didn’t “savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.”
And please use KJV – “Hades” is the Greek underworld filled with pagans (similar to you heathens really) – no-one here ever expected "Hades" to be a problem, but hell was always going to require some Godly work.