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Default Re: Hindu man here - hello dear christians - 11-20-2010, 10:24 PM

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What is the weather like where you are?
Thank you. The Sun is shining in all its glory. Excellent conditions for a long drive.
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Default Re: Hindu man here - hello dear christians - 11-20-2010, 10:31 PM

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Bengal, huh?

In my unsaved days I used to eat a lot of Indian food. I preferred Northern but I also enjoyed Southern food. Do you have dosa there? Do you like samosas?
Well, Bengali cuisine is known more for its variety of fish. Every other cuisine is found around the country. I don't like samosas or fried food items much. I rarely eat in restaurants.

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Of course, since I became a True Christian™ I avoid eating ethic food. I've been advised that it hottens up the blood.
You must have had mostly restaurant food. True home-made Indian cuisine is nowhere that hot or coloured. We do use plenty of spices but they are beneficial for health - for centuries. For example, turmeric is known to prevent allergies and arthritis.
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Default Re: Hindu man here - hello dear christians - 11-20-2010, 10:31 PM

Since all you have are rickshaws there, the length will depend on the "driver".

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Default Re: Hindu man here - hello dear christians - 11-20-2010, 10:38 PM

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Since all you have are rickshaws there, the length will depend on the "driver".
Actually, "some" of us do have our own cars.
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Default Re: Hindu man here - hello dear christians - 11-20-2010, 10:55 PM

You are too busy stealing good American jobs to have cars.

Jesus is watching and is mad.


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Default Re: Hindu man here - hello dear christians - 11-20-2010, 11:29 PM

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I do follow Kali. And, I'm a Brahmin -that's as upper caste as it gets!
That was an interesting story. It does explain the basics of Karma well.

So, as a Brahmin, you believe that you have acted better than others in your past lives.

You also believe that people who are poor or suffering today are getting what they deserve. Infants in Haiti dying of cholera deserve it, because they did something bad in a "past life". A child born blind due to his mother's gonorrhea infection has it coming to him. A woman raped and mutilated by a pervert, left physically disfigured and emotionally scarred for life, did something to earn the attack. And someone born to a wealthy family is so fortunate because she deserves it.

Finally, you believe that someone in a lower caste, in order to move to a higher caste, must be a good little Untouchable and not make waves, but accept his or her station in life, scrubbing your toilets and cleaning up your vomit.

In other words, your caste system is designed to ensure that the Brahmins -- conveniently, those who control the priesthood -- are not rebelled against by the lower castes.


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Default Re: Hindu man here - hello dear christians - 11-21-2010, 07:57 AM

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That was an interesting story. It does explain the basics of Karma well.

So, as a Brahmin, you believe that you have acted better than others in your past lives.
I wouldn't bother making comparisons with less fortunate beings. But, God has been kind to me in my present life. I learnt the distinction between Good and Evil at an early age. I'm quite content with my life as far as material wealth goes. I also treat other human beings (and animals) with kindness and compassion. There may have been a few transgressions here and there but so far, I've lived my life in an ideal way.

Yes, I do feel I have "earned" the good things in my present life. The laws of Karma are 100% accurate.

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You also believe that people who are poor or suffering today are getting what they deserve. Infants in Haiti dying of cholera deserve it, because they did something bad in a "past life". A child born blind due to his mother's gonorrhea infection has it coming to him. A woman raped and mutilated by a pervert, left physically disfigured and emotionally scarred for life, did something to earn the attack. And someone born to a wealthy family is so fortunate because she deserves it.
God did not give me the right or option to comment on another person's karmic status. I try to be nice and compassionate to the less fortunate beings within my social radius. However, to all those examples you provided, I don't have a solution to their misery. Life is unfair, so they should all probably try to suck it up. I wish them good luck in improving their lot.

Charity begins at home.

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Finally, you believe that someone in a lower caste, in order to move to a higher caste, must be a good little Untouchable and not make waves, but accept his or her station in life, scrubbing your toilets and cleaning up your vomit.
The caste system isn't as rigid as you think. There is a lot of fluidity and upward mobility within the caste system. India has plenty of affirmative action policies for historically backward castes. Today, you can find them everywhere from the seats of parliament to universities and doctor's clinics.

I personally have nothing against anyone wanting to improve their present circumstances through a good education and hard work.

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In other words, your caste system is designed to ensure that the Brahmins -- conveniently, those who control the priesthood -- are not rebelled against by the lower castes.
Brahmins are still revered in this country but we aren't the richest. The merchant castes of India (of which, you'll find plenty in the United States) have all the wealth. Many Brahmins happen to be poor as well. But, no other caste has the grace, intellectual temperament and selflessness that you'll find in a Brahmin. That is why despite our lack of wealth, we get all the respect from other castes.

The caste system has all but collapsed. Although the upper castes have still retained some privileges, for the most part, the caste system is irrelevant today.

Modern India is not even a Hindu country. The government of India is a secular, atheist institution.
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Well, we do. I live in a place that looks more like this. You can notice the beach.

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Default Re: Hindu man here - hello dear christians - 11-21-2010, 04:02 PM

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I would like to hear your explanation of karma.
personally, I've never experienced karma, so it needs no explaiation
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Well, we do. I live in a place that looks more like this. You can notice the beach.

Is that poop running over the beach at the bottom of the picture?


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I suspect it will be a little more like this:
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Do you have enough chicken bones available?

(I expected your picture to show one stuck through your nose)

If you need some, let me know, and I can save them from my next trip to Kentucky Fried Chicken.


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Yes, I do feel I have "earned" the good things in my present life. The laws of Karma are 100% accurate.
Thank you.

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God did not give me the right or option to comment on another person's karmic status. I try to be nice and compassionate to the less fortunate beings within my social radius. However, to all those examples you provided, I don't have a solution to their misery. Life is unfair, so they should all probably try to suck it up. I wish them good luck in improving their lot.

Charity begins at home.
You were not given the right or option to comment on another's karmic status, but apparently centuries of the right to oppress those deemed inferior based upon supposed karmic status. Something still done today by Hindus:

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Dik Bahadur Thapa Magar, who was found dead in his rented room in Ombahal, Kathmandu on October 19 was murdered by his father-in-law Nirraj Danuwar, police claimed.

Danuwar has conceded his crime in a statement to the police as well as before the media. He was made public at a press conference in Kathmandu on Sunday.

According to Danuwar, Thapa Magar died accidentally when a brawl broke into a fight on the evening of October 18.

Danuwar said, he was miffed with his daughter as well as her husband as they were from different castes. His daughter Parbati Danuwar had eloped with Thapa Magar nine years ago. He got further angry after his daughter told him that Thapa Magar used to beat her and the children after getting intoxicated.

Parbati told police, her father had been pressuring her to leave Thapa Magar and marry someone from the same caste.


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The caste system isn't as rigid as you think. There is a lot of fluidity and upward mobility within the caste system. India has plenty of affirmative action policies for historically backward castes. Today, you can find them everywhere from the seats of parliament to universities and doctor's clinics.

I personally have nothing against anyone wanting to improve their present circumstances through a good education and hard work.
As long as they don't marry your daughter, I imagine.

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Dipak Kumar Dash, TNN, May 9, 2010, 02.49am IST

MUZAFFARNAGAR: A 23-year-old youth, Ajit Saini, was brutally killed by the brother of the Jat girl he loved and claimed to have married and his body has been found probably a week after the murder.

Saini's throat had been slit and legs chopped off. His name tattooed on his left hand had been burnt off with acid.
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Brahmins are still revered in this country but we aren't the richest. The merchant castes of India (of which, you'll find plenty in the United States) have all the wealth. Many Brahmins happen to be poor as well. But, no other caste has the grace, intellectual temperament and selflessness that you'll find in a Brahmin. That is why despite our lack of wealth, we get all the respect from other castes.
That's all very well and good, but I said nothing about wealth. I said that Brahmins control the priesthood.

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It doesn't appear so from the violence stemming from inter-caste marriages.

Are you so blind as not to see that "karma" is simply a creation of Hindu Brahmins to enforce a social order which benefits them, by blaming the victims for their own poverty and suffering and claiming that the well-off should not be envied because they earned their status in their "past lives"?


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I think we saw enough pictures to say that God hates this country very much. I mean there is not one house without poo on the walls.
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Default Re: Hindu man here - hello dear christians - 11-22-2010, 05:33 AM

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Thank you.


You were not given the right or option to comment on another's karmic status, but apparently centuries of the right to oppress those deemed inferior based upon supposed karmic status. Something still done today by Hindus:
I personally did not "oppress" anyone. Case closed.

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As long as they don't marry your daughter, I imagine.
I personally have liberal views on inter-caste and interracial marriages. For other Brahmins, I cannot comment. As they say, to each their own.

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That's all very well and good, but I said nothing about wealth. I said that Brahmins control the priesthood.
That's irrelevant because most people in India, especially in urban areas, are leading an almost atheist existence. People are more concerned about their new Plasma TV and buying a flat in an upmarket locality. We are becoming a money-loving culture, much like Americans. Whether or not we control the Priesthood, we don't control the minds of people anymore.

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It doesn't appear so from the violence stemming from inter-caste marriages.

Are you so blind as not to see that "karma" is simply a creation of Hindu Brahmins to enforce a social order which benefits them, by blaming the victims for their own poverty and suffering and claiming that the well-off should not be envied because they earned their status in their "past lives"?
I'm in a hurry right now but I can prove to you that the laws of Karma are applicable universally - even for Christians like yourself.
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I personally did not "oppress" anyone. Case closed.
In any way that you have accepted privilege by being born to Brahmin parents, you have, in fact, oppressed those not so privleged.

But it's nice to see you can lie to yourself and deny your own complicity in such actions.

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I guess that's where Christians and Hindus differ. Christians actually want to be sure everyone has the same rights. Christians care about justice and God's Law, not the chaos you appear to embrace. Christians try to eliminate intolerance, rather than turning a blind eye to it as you do.

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That's irrelevant because most people in India, especially in urban areas, are leading an almost atheist existence. People are more concerned about their new Plasma TV and buying a flat in an upmarket locality. We are becoming a money-loving culture, much like Americans. Whether or not we control the Priesthood, we don't control the minds of people anymore.
When the Brahmins openly deny karma and the caste system which the myth of karma was created to support, I'll believe you. Until then, hogwash.

Please show me the demographic studies demonstrating that most Indians are atheist.

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It would be most entertaining to see how you promote karma as acceptable to Christians, since they rely upon reincarnation -- a concept explicitly denied in the Bible.


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Greetings!

I am fascinated with this statement of yours:
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I believe in Vedanta philosophy and consider the Bhagwad Gita the same as you would the Bible.
Prior to becoming a True Christian™, I remember reading this novel. I was particularly impressed with how Arjuna struggles with Ahimsa, trying to be non-violent... only to be told by Vishnu to forget about that and, instead, just go ahead and kill millions of people. It's refreshing to know that, despite claims to the contrary, Hinduism is bloody to its very core!

I imagine you must also be proud of this, knowing that you have perfect license from your supreme being to righteously destroy anyone that threatens you religiously. I must have this right since the history of your country, as well as its present, is replete with all sorts of wonderful attacks against evil-doing family members as well as deviant strangers.

Of course, we all know that your Hindu religion is nothing but heathen superstition. Unless you repent, you will burn in hell forever because of your lack of faith in Jesus Christ, the King of the Universe.

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I personally did not "oppress" anyone. Case closed.

I personally have liberal views on inter-caste and interracial marriages. For other Brahmins, I cannot comment. As they say, to each their own.

That's irrelevant because most people in India, especially in urban areas, are leading an almost atheist existence. People are more concerned about their new Plasma TV and buying a flat in an upmarket locality. We are becoming a money-loving culture, much like Americans. Whether or not we control the Priesthood, we don't control the minds of people anymore.

I'm in a hurry right now but I can prove to you that the laws of Karma are applicable universally - even for Christians like yourself.
How can you be a money loving country when India is ranked 30 as the poorest country on the MPI. Hati ranks 28, but you don't see them buying plasma TV's

Here is an extract of the report

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The intensity of MPI poverty is greatest in South Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa. If one merely gazes at a ranking of countries, one notices immediately that the poorest countries are all in Sub-Saharan Africa (plus Somalia which is technically an Arab State).52 Does this mean that Africa is the poorest in terms of MPI? Unfortunately, South Asia also has comparable intensities of poverty.

If we compare the MPI values of states within India alone, we find that 8 states with poverty as acute as the 26 poorest African countries, are home to 421 million multidimensionally poor persons, more than the 26 poorest African countries combined (410 million) (See also section 4.5). Finally,even within Indian states further diversity is expected, so a district level analysis might bring out even more variation. Just to provide a sense of perspective, the population of the poorest Indian state Bihar, with 95 million people, exceeds the sum of nine of the ten poorest African countries. Hence because of the different sizes of the units of analysis, it is not possible to say definitely where

MPI poverty is more intense, but in either case what is clear is that both South Asia and Africa have a tragic intensity of poverty. In Bolivia, which we also decomposed, in no case does a state or ethnic group within Bolivia have a MPI that is comparable to these.


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Hey Mr. Hindoo. Do you eat people?


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