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08-30-2018, 07:24 AM
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No, of course not. But I don't find him on here. I think he was pulling my leg.
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DALLAS1981TEXANS,
The only one that is pulling someone's leg on this forum is YOU! Without question you are running from my post #6 within
this tread that shows you a member of a church that allows the 2nd class women to teach! As shown in my post in question,
this is totally against Jesus' inspired word in the KJV 1611 bible!
Are you that embarrassed to "try" and respond to why in the hell you belong to a Satanic church like this? Huh?
In the name of the hung Savior,
Brother D. Thomas
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08-30-2018, 08:25 AM
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DALLAS1981TEXANS,
The only one that is pulling someone's leg on this forum is YOU! Without question you are running from my post #6 within
this tread that shows you a member of a church that allows the 2nd class women to teach! As shown in my post in question,
this is totally against Jesus' inspired word in the KJV 1611 bible!
Are you that embarrassed to "try" and respond to why in the hell you belong to a Satanic church like this? Huh?
In the name of the hung Savior,
Brother D. Thomas
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Calm down Thomas you can't get hostel and expect a reply you probably scared him. Plus he's on moderation last I checked your unable post while on it.
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Re: Thank you for this wonderful forum -
08-30-2018, 03:32 PM
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you a member of a church that allows the 2nd class women to teach!
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Hi Thomas, I remember having this discussion with you a long time ago, and you still have not explained what is the difference between 1st class and 2nd class women.
Because in American English, this is what your usage of the phrase "2nd class women" implies. Now, if you want to refer to women as 2nd class humans, that would be something entirely different and Biblically appropriate.
Sorry to be a grammar nazi.
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08-30-2018, 07:06 PM
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Hi Thomas, I remember having this discussion with you a long time ago, and you still have not explained what is the difference between 1st class and 2nd class women.
Because in American English, this is what your usage of the phrase "2nd class women" implies. Now, if you want to refer to women as 2nd class humans, that would be something entirely different and Biblically appropriate.
Sorry to be a grammar nazi.
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Basilissa, my dear Sister of Eve,
As you are biblically aware, it was the woman that transgressed against our Hebrew Yahweh/Jesus God in the Garden of Eden
by eating the forbidden fruit, and the godly man has been paying for it ever since! In turn, you have been paying for it as well
by our Yahweh/Jesus giving you severe pains in child birth, and where you have to accept that your husband
is to rule over you! (Genesis 3:16)
That being said, you are correct, even though you are NOT to usurp the authority over the man, it should be “second class human”
as appropriately stated within the scriptures as shown below:
“I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man
who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare.” (Ecclesiastes 7:26)
“Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also
is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. But as the church is subject to Christ,
so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)
“In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient
to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior.” (1 Peter 3:1-2)
“Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.” (Colossians 3:18)
“Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel,
since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.” (1 Peter 3:7)
“ But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ and the head of woman is man. For the man is not of the women;
but the woman of the man.” (1Corinthians 11: 3,8 )
“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp the authority over man, but to be in silence.” (Timothy 2:12)
“For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man, for man was not made for woman,
but woman from man, neither was man created for woman, but woman for man." (1 Corinthians 11:17)
To the woman he said, "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."(Genesis 3:16)
The passages above explicitly state that the "Second Class Human," being the woman following the bible, is to have
no more headaches or lame excuses when the man has to be fruitful by multiplying, period!
Basilissa, remember dear the inspired word of Jesus: “A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day. Stopping her complaints
is like trying to stop the wind or trying to hold something with greased hands.” (Proverbs 27:15-16)
In the name of the hung Savior,
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Re: Thank you for this wonderful forum -
08-30-2018, 07:11 PM
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Calm down Thomas you can't get hostel and expect a reply you probably scared him. Plus he's on moderation last I checked your unable post while on it.
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Vengeance Puriel,
I am sorry, but Jesus and I cannot stand blatant hypocrites like dallas1981texans represents to the godly here at Landover Baptist!
The world is full of "pseudo-christians" and its about time we show them to be what they are by being hypocrites to the word.
In the name of the hung Savior,
Brother D. Thomas
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Re: Thank you for this wonderful forum -
08-30-2018, 08:08 PM
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<whatever - some stuff redacted> That being said, you are correct....
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Well of course Sister Basilissa is correct! She is a True Christian™. Are you even aware of the pecking order on these forums? I will repeat it below for your edification.
True Christian Pastors
True Christian Men
True Christian Women (that's Sister Basilissa)
Forum Members (people like you)
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I should also point out that Sister Basilissa is an unmarried lady, and your references to "wives" may be hurtful to her.
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Basilissa, remember dear the inspired word of Jesus: “A quarrelsome wife is as annoying as constant dripping on a rainy day. Stopping her complaints is like trying to stop the wind or trying to hold something with greased hands.” (Proverbs 27:15-16)
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Re: Thank you for this wonderful forum -
08-30-2018, 08:21 PM
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That being said, you are correct, even though you are NOT to usurp the authority over the man, it should be “second class human”
as appropriately stated within the scriptures as shown below:
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I am so glad I was able to be of help (Genesis 2:18) and I hope you will stop now butchering our beautiful American language.
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Re: Thank you for this wonderful forum -
08-30-2018, 09:01 PM
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Vengeance Puriel,
I am sorry, but Jesus and I cannot stand blatant hypocrites like dallas1981texans represents to the godly here at Landover Baptist!
The world is full of "pseudo-christians" and its about time we show them to be what they are by being hypocrites to the word.
In the name of the hung Savior,
Brother D. Thomas
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I'm sorry I have to agree with Faith Machine, yousaid you were saving the women that use sex for money yet your sign off is "in the name of the hung Savior Brother D. Thomas" not Jesus or God tell me do you fancy yourself a Good?
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Re: Thank you for this wonderful forum -
08-30-2018, 09:04 PM
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I am so glad I was able to be of help (Genesis 2:18) and I hope you will stop now butchering our beautiful American language.
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Sister of Eve Basilissa,
Lest you forget, as a helpmate to the superior man, our Hebrew Yahweh/Jesus created your gender of woman AFTER, and I repeat, AFTER the animals! Therefore, further promoting the woman as a "Second Class Human."
“And the LORD God said , It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air;
and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam,
and he slept : and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said , This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman,
because she was taken out of Man.” (Genesis 2: 18-23)
In the name of the hung Savior,
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08-30-2018, 09:13 PM
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I'm sorry I have to agree with Faith Machine, yousaid you were saving the women that use sex for money yet your sign off is "in the name of the hung Savior Brother D. Thomas" not Jesus or God tell me do you fancy yourself a Good?
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Vengeance Puriel,
Listen, subsequent to our Jesus hanging around with 12 men all the time, was he not hung on a cross for his alleged misdeeds? Yes? Get it?
Therefore, in its truest form, my sign off is biblical. What should be of question, is your inference intent to "In the name of the hung Savior!"
I am disturbed that you question my modus operandi in preaching the true words of our hung Savior, Jesus the Christ!
In the name of the hung Savior,
Brother D. Thomas
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Re: Thank you for this wonderful forum -
08-30-2018, 09:20 PM
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Vengeance Puriel,
Listen, subsequent to our Jesus hanging around with 12 men all the time, was he not hung on a cross for his alleged misdeeds? Yes? Get it?
Therefore, in its truest form, my sign off is biblical. What should be of question, is your inference intent to "In the name of the hung Savior!"
I am disturbed that you question my modus operandi in preaching the true words of our hung Savior, Jesus the Christ!
In the name of the hung Savior,
Brother D. Thomas
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I would prefer Jesus Christ to follow the title not yours, as it looks bad to the unsaved trash that look for something to troll on.
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-Ps 33:4 For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.
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Re: Thank you for this wonderful forum -
08-30-2018, 09:53 PM
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Sister of Eve Basilissa,
Lest you forget, as a helpmate to the superior man, our Hebrew Yahweh/Jesus created your gender of woman AFTER, and I repeat, AFTER the animals! Therefore, further promoting the woman as a "Second Class Human."
“And the LORD God said , It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air;
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Um, my sweet, dearest friend, you do realize that it is the verse I quoted above, right?
Otherwise, you may need a new pair of prescription glasses. If you cannot afford health insurance for a proper eye exam (I'd blame Obama for that), there are some cheap ones available at Walmart, you know.
Also, please note that I am not a sister of Eve - one, that would make me a very old person, and two, that would make me free of the original sin (in the Bible, sins are inherited from one generation to another, but not from one sibling to another, see e.g. Jacob and Esau), which I'm not. You could, metaphorically, call me a daughter of Eve, but not a sister.
I am lifting my prayers for you, my dear friend, in hopes that your eyesight and proper use of grammar improve.
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08-30-2018, 10:04 PM
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Well of course Sister Basilissa is correct! She is a True Christian™. Are you even aware of the pecking order on these forums? I will repeat it below for your edification.
True Christian Pastors
True Christian Men
True Christian Women (that's Sister Basilissa)
Forum Members (people like you)
Dust mites
Navel lint
Unsaved Trash
I should also point out that Sister Basilissa is an unmarried lady, and your references to "wives" may be hurtful to her.
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Landover Baptist Church recognizes only the King James Version as the True Word of God. Kindly refrain from using the abomination which is the NLT (short for Not a Literal Translation). Thank you for your attention.
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Joanna Lytton-Vasey,
OMG, another Sister of Eve is now heard from! I haven't heard from this many women since I won a a new Ferrari Berlinetta and 1 million dollars at an Indian casino!
Dear, it would seem that if a "Second Class Human," being a woman in this discussion, and whether she is married or not,
is still under the inspired word of Jesus relative to women being ruled over by man.
The only "hurtful" notion to Sister Basilissa may be that she is not married, and the reasoning why she is not married.
Nonetheless, Basillissa not being married is a caveat because she is in direct accordance to the bible so she should be commended:
" I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I." (1 Corinthians 7:8)
In context, Paul is saying to stay unmarried until the Second Coming, praise!
In the name of the hung Savior,
Brother D. Thomas
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08-30-2018, 10:11 PM
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OMG, another Sister of Eve is now heard from! (some drivel removed)
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My dear, Sister Joanna is not Eve's sister, either. Maybe you should invest some money in an English as a Second Language tutor? And a new pair of reading glasses as I already mentioned.
I hope that was helpful, dear.
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08-30-2018, 10:25 PM
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My dear, Sister Joanna is not Eve's sister, either. Maybe you should invest some money in an English as a Second Language tutor? And a new pair of reading glasses as I already mentioned.
I hope that was helpful, dear.
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08-30-2018, 11:17 PM
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Um, my sweet, dearest friend, you do realize that it is the verse I quoted above, right?
Otherwise, you may need a new pair of prescription glasses. If you cannot afford health insurance for a proper eye exam (I'd blame Obama for that), there are some cheap ones available at Walmart, you know.
Also, please note that I am not a sister of Eve - one, that would make me a very old person, and two, that would make me free of the original sin (in the Bible, sins are inherited from one generation to another, but not from one sibling to another, see e.g. Jacob and Esau), which I'm not. You could, metaphorically, call me a daughter of Eve, but not a sister.
I am lifting my prayers for you, my dear friend, in hopes that your eyesight and proper use of grammar improves.
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Basilissa,
Is there a High School nearby your domicile that would have a beginning "Logic 101 Class" that you could take at their night school?
In part, I included Genesis 2:18 to show you again that your gender is a "Second Class Human" by our Hebrew Yahweh/Jesus creating
you AFTER the animals! Therefore, no need whatsoever for a pair of reading glasses.
Dear, once again, you are trying my patience while I am allowing you to be unbiblical by trying to correct me as the superior man, whereas,
you as a mere woman have yet to learn that you are not to usurp the authority over the man! “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp
the authority over the man, but to be in silence.” (Timothy 2:12) Dear, what part of the the passage above didn’t you understand?
As explicitly shown above, you are skating on thin ice with the inspired direct word of our Jesus the Christ as he is watching you in probable disgust
in your misdeeds towards Him! (Hebrews 4:13)
Sister, daughter, love child, born subsequent to a sixties Rock Concert, or whatever, you are a direct relative to EVE who transgressed
and committed the “Original Sin,” period! Besides, everyone is born into sin, or all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of Yahweh/Jesus
regardless of inheriting sin from generations: “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.” (Psalms 51:5)
“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” (Romans3:23)
Basilissa, may I suggest that you learn your womanly place within the godly scheme of things? You can thank me later.
In the name of the hung Savior,
Brother D. Thomas
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08-30-2018, 11:19 PM
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We use the New American Standard or the new ESV but our Pastor knows both Greek and Hebrew.
Yeah I think my friend was banned from the group for some reason, but said he enjoyed it and thought I might like it.
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Re: Thank you for this wonderful forum -
08-30-2018, 11:31 PM
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...“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp
the authority over the man, but to be in silence.” (Timothy 2:12) ...
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08-30-2018, 11:35 PM
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Is there a High School nearby your domicile that would have a beginning "Logic 101 Class" that you could take at their night school?
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My sweet, delicate Friend Thomas,
When you have a minute, please do google the word "redundancy." While I am just a woman and do not usurp myself the privilege to teach you anything, maybe you can learn from Google that if you talk about a 101 logic class it is not necessary to add the redundant word "beginning," and vice versa.
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Dear, once again, you are trying my patience while I am allowing you to be unbiblical by trying to correct me as the superior man, whereas,
you as a mere woman have yet to learn that you are not to usurp the authority over the man!
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Oh dear, I am not usurping anything. However, seeing you slowly improving your grammar really makes me happy.
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As explicitly shown above, you are skating on thin ice with the inspired direct word of our Jesus the Christ as he is watching you in probable disgust
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Oh dear, you really need to look into that log in your eye before talking about imaginary specks in mine! (As I was saying about seeing an eye doctor...)
As a , I am perfect:
Psalm 119:1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Psalm 119:2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
Psalm 119:3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
1st John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
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Sister, daughter, love child, born subsequent to a sixties Rock Concert, or whatever, you are a direct relative to EVE who transgressed
and committed the “Original Sin,” period! Besides, everyone is born into sin, or all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of Yahweh/Jesus
regardless of inheriting sin from generations: “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.” (Psalms 51:5)
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You mean, we are all sinners because we are descendants (not brothers/sisters, cousins, in-laws, ex-laws, etc, etc) of the first couple of sinners. Because this is what the verse you quote says. Or would you like to add to or remove from what the Bible says?
Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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Meh. I prefer to follow the Word of God rather than a random dude (or dudette? who knows) on the internet.
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08-31-2018, 05:50 AM
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Basilissa,
Is there a High School nearby your domicile that would have a beginning "Logic 101 Class" that you could take at their night school?
In part, I included Genesis 2:18 to show you again that your gender is a "Second Class Human" by our Hebrew Yahweh/Jesus creating
you AFTER the animals! Therefore, no need whatsoever for a pair of reading glasses.
Dear, once again, you are trying my patience while I am allowing you to be unbiblical by trying to correct me as the superior man, whereas,
you as a mere woman have yet to learn that you are not to usurp the authority over the man! “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp
the authority over the man, but to be in silence.” (Timothy 2:12) Dear, what part of the the passage above didn’t you understand?
As explicitly shown above, you are skating on thin ice with the inspired direct word of our Jesus the Christ as he is watching you in probable disgust
in your misdeeds towards Him! (Hebrews 4:13)
Sister, daughter, love child, born subsequent to a sixties Rock Concert, or whatever, you are a direct relative to EVE who transgressed
and committed the “Original Sin,” period! Besides, everyone is born into sin, or all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of Yahweh/Jesus
regardless of inheriting sin from generations: “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.” (Psalms 51:5)
“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” (Romans3:23)
Basilissa, may I suggest that you learn your womanly place within the godly scheme of things? You can thank me later.
In the name of the hung Savior,
Brother D. Thomas
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Ok enough out of you you making believe you a troll no one here talks to Basilissa like you have, as a forum member I expect you have more dignity and respect, Again your sign off sill points out you as God instead of Jesus Christ I see you're name.
-Ps 25:10 All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
-Ps 33:4 For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.
-James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
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