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Thumbs down Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 03:56 PM

Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

I've grown impatient lately by liberal, demoncrat-voting fluffy-bunny christians, who twist the Christian Message into something it never was supposed to mean.

One of the most evil products of this rape of God's Word is modern-day "animal rights" activism. Being brainwashed by evilutionists, people are taught to believe that animals have feelings equal to humans, which would then grant them "rights" like humans.

First of all, the modern concept of human rights is already shaky, as it is one of the most unbiblical ideas of modern society.

But more importantly, the Bible, which is (and should be) the basis of American Law, clearly states that animals are meant to be inferior to men:

Genesis 1:27-28:
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Additionally, these beasts are "delivered into our hands, so we are allowed to do with them as we see fit:

Genesis 9:1-3:
And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.



So, God clearly sees animals as inferior to people. That is also why He isn't in the least concerned when ordering to slaughter animals solely for ceremonial purposes:


Leviticus 1:14-17:
And if the burnt sacrifice for his offering to the LORD be of fowls, then he shall bring his offering of turtledoves, or of young pigeons.
And the priest shall bring it unto the altar, and wring off his head, and burn it on the altar; and the blood thereof shall be wrung out at the side of the altar:
And he shall pluck away his crop with his feathers, and cast it beside the altar on the east part, by the place of the ashes:
And he shall cleave it with the wings thereof, but shall not divide it asunder: and the priest shall burn it upon the altar, upon the wood that is upon the fire: it is a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD.


Genesis 15:9-10:
And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.

And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.

If we would have to be compassionate with these senseless beings, then clearly these Laws would have been extraordinarily cruel. But of course, God is Love, so there is nothing wrong with killing animals for purposes like these.

Also, if a man commits iniquity with an animal, the animal has to be killed, even though the animal was too stupid to realize what was going on:


Leviticus 20:15-16:
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.



The clearest Scripture Verse about animal rights (or more accurately, the non-existence of that concept) is this one:

2 Peter 2:12:
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

In other words, animals are made (by God) to be taken and destroyed. We are permitted to do with them as we see fit.

In short, those God-hating PETA eco-terrorists are the enemies of True Christian™ Conservativism. I pray that the regulations currently in existence limiting so-called "animal abuse" are lifted as soon as President Palin comes into power!

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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 04:02 PM

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In short, those God-hating PETA eco-terrorists are the enemies
I could not agree more. Many of these hippies seem to value animals over human life! They keep telling me meat is bad for me, but I have been eating meat mostly meat all my life and my health is excellent! I am still able to kill my dinner with a nice shot between the eyes each and every day. All these vegetarians are clearly gay as they want us to eat soy which is known to change men into gays!

Romans 14:2 "For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs."


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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 05:09 PM

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I could not agree more. Many of these hippies seem to value animals over human life! They keep telling me meat is bad for me, but I have been eating meat mostly meat all my life and my health is excellent! I am still able to kill my dinner with a nice shot between the eyes each and every day. All these vegetarians are clearly gay as they want us to eat soy which is known to change men into gays!

Romans 14:2 "For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs."
Amen, Brother! Vegetarians are among the worst of the worst among outcasts of society, placing the "right of an animal to live in dignity" above the obvious right of an American to be able to regularly eat at the Burger King for a reasonable price.

The Bible warns us for these perverts. They are led by seducing spirits and doctrines of devils:

1 Timothy 4:1-5:
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be
received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.


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Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 05:19 PM

I agree brother Discípulo.

And is why annoy me a lot the anti-bullfightings protestants who are alway manifesting for the rights of the bullocks and the cruelness of this but I think they all are crazy and wrong for this.

Are you agree?


They take this espectacle:




And they make pretestings like this.





Are you agree whit me that the bullfightings is a basic right of people for use animals like God intentioned?


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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 05:29 PM

If bullfighting is so wrong, why did God intelligently design bulls to behave as they do and to have horns? Checkmate, atheists.


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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 06:04 PM

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And they make pretestings like this.





Are you agree whit me that the bullfightings is a basic right of people for use animals like God intentioned?
Yes, Sister, I agree whole-heartedly with that. After all, to support a cow herd of many cows, only one bull is necessary. Why, then, did God design cows to give birth to equal amounts of males and females? Obviously, the surplus bulls were meant for humanity to utilize in other ways, like bullfighting.

Also, I think that protest is very typical of the culture of animal "rights" activists. Leave it to them to find a way to take part in a demonstration while at the same time lying on the ground, doing nothing and enjoying the sun. The laziness of those hippies sickens me.


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Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
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Amen.

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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 06:12 PM

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Yes, Sister, I agree whole-heartedly with that. After all, to support a cow herd of many cows, only one bull is necessary. Why, then, did God design cows to give birth to equal amounts of males and females? Obviously, the surplus bulls were meant for humanity to utilize in other ways, like bullfighting.

Also, I think that protest is very typical of the culture of animal "rights" activists. Leave it to them to find a way to take part in a demonstration while at the same time lying on the ground, doing nothing and enjoying the sun. The laziness of those hippies sickens me.

And also the desnudity.
Or maybe is because they are spanishs protest animals's rights and use any excuses for take off the clothes and be naked and sex-obsesionate like nearly everybody here in sex-obsesionate Spain for examples my ex-fiancé he was alway wanting go at the beach in summer and some beaches was for desnudists and 'Oh I very sorry Mari! Was a mistek this! I find wrong beach! Sorry! But now we here we can just stay, ¿no? and blah blah and why you not get more sun on your back honey, here i help you whit swimming suit, ¿no? and blah blah'' - and you imagine all the rests. (Now I know he were a filthy 'cerdo pervertido cobarde del.... I no say no more. I get angry whit this.)

So this is very common in Spain the desnude protestings that nothing have to see whit take off your clothes and I mean nothing of nothing - Bullfightings? Protest? Let's us take off us the clothes and ¡Hala! Here we are in the public and desnudes. Tipically spanishs. I ashamed whit my compatriotas some times.

So, like you sat Brother TD - God's intelligency is for make too many bulls for that we use for enterteniment, correct?

YIC, Mari


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If bullfighting is so wrong, why did God intelligently design bulls to behave as they do and to have horns? Checkmate, atheists.
AMEN Brother! And why did he make them get really mad at the color red? All the other animals don't.




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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 08:56 PM

God wants us to eat meat, vegetarians are deliberately going against the will of our Lord:

Genesis 9:3-4
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Deuteronomy 12:20
When the LORD thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, I will eat flesh, because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after.



It's pretty obvious here that God not only wants us to eat meat, he expects us to! Not only that, but he wants us to eat as much meat as we want! The only right an animal has is to provide us with nourishment. Vegetarianism and animal rights activism are just more pathways to Hell. It's no coincidence that most of these PETA animals lovers are also atheists.


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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 09:03 PM

Besides the taste and the feeling of well being with a meat filled meal, a big roast sitting in the middle of the table will get people to bow their heads in prayer faster than a gay boy will drop his trousers at a cast party of ''Cats''.


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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-16-2011, 09:09 PM

Frankly, Brothers and Sisters, I was somewhat taken aback at seeing the title of this thread. Of course animals have no rights, and I'm shocked the question even arose.

I have it on good authority that many of the Brothers here would never turn down the opportunity at enjoying a nibble of a "foot long."

And I've never heard of a Sister walking away from the aroma of a well-aged fish.

So please, True Christians™, continue your discussion while I share another "Tube Steak" in the privacy of my chambers with an underpaid Public Defender.


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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-17-2011, 02:09 AM

Animals do have rights, or at least should have rights. Maria, with her commendable knowledge of the English language, explained why it's okay to torture bulls. But remember that they too can feel pain, and you are taking the responsibililty when you torture an animal for your own fun, or when you encourage someone else.
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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-17-2011, 02:27 AM

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Animals do have rights, or at least should have rights. Maria, with her commendable knowledge of the English language, explained why it's okay to torture bulls. But remember that they too can feel pain, and you are taking the responsibililty when you torture an animal for your own fun, or when you encourage someone else.
Nonsense. God gave us animals to kill as we see fit. It's in the very first chapter of the Bible.

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

The last time Pastor Zeke and I went on safari, this wild cat charged us. What would you have us do? Let this beast rip us to shreds?

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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-17-2011, 11:18 AM

The idea that animals have rights is outrageous - and even blasphemous. Words like "animal rights", "animal torture", "animal abuse" etc. are ridiculous...they do not make any sense.
As the True Disciple so elegantly put it: "These beasts are delivered into our hands, so we are allowed to do with them as we see fit".

Not long ago I thought that these Animal rights activists and Eco-terrorists was a product of the "modern times" we live in, but now I suspect that there is something more sinister behind all this. I truely believe that there is a big secret organization who is brainwashing our children to believe that all animals are compassionate creatures and that they have feelings equal to humans. This brainwashing has been going on for many decades, and now we begin to see the result of this brainwashing.

I pretty sure that this secret organization founded the Walt Disney Company in the mid-1920 s - or at least this secret organization was part of the creation of this company.
And since the mid-1920, our children have been "fed" with these animated speaking cows, dancing chickens, singing pigs etc. This so-called family-oriented entertainment is designed so cunningly that our children are led to believe that all animals are intelligent creatures who are capable to love and have feelings just like we humans: In some cases these animal animations are even more intelligent than the human animations.
Generation after generation has been subjected to this systematic brainwashing.

This secret organization has of course become larger and financially stronger since the mid-1920, and now it has countless of companies that make these "brainwashing series" to corrupt our children: And now the "brainwashed children" sit at their computer and create these intelligent animal animations they have learned to love and admire. These "brainwashed children" have probable never seen a live animal, and thus have no idea how stupid animals really are.

This means that the boost in animal rights activism we see nowadays, is a product of this systematic brainwashing that has been going on for decades. In reality, the avarage Animal rights activist, who thinks that the wrapped-in-plastic-ham-sandwich he bought in the store is something that grows on trees, has become just as stupid as the animals.

The question is: Who is behind this secret organization?! What could they possible gain by doing this?!
I must admit that I honestly don't know who is doing this: For a brief moment I thought that it might be the Jehuvah Witless and their crazy beliefs on utopia on earth where the 144000 people live in peace and harmony with all animals. But a conspiracy of this magnitude requires some brain capacity and rational thinking, and I seriously doubt that there are people with such properties within the Jehuvah Witless organization.


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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-17-2011, 11:47 AM

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The idea that animals have rights is outrageous - and even blasphemous. Words like "animal rights", "animal torture", "animal abuse" etc. are ridiculous...they do not make any sense.
As the True Disciple so elegantly put it: "These beasts are delivered into our hands, so we are allowed to do with them as we see fit".

Not long ago I thought that these Animal rights activists and Eco-terrorists was a product of the "modern times" we live in, but now I suspect that there is something more sinister behind all this. I truely believe that there is a big secret organization who is brainwashing our children to believe that all animals are compassionate creatures and that they have feelings equal to humans. This brainwashing has been going on for many decades, and now we begin to see the result of this brainwashing.

I pretty sure that this secret organization founded the Walt Disney Company in the mid-1920 s - or at least this secret organization was part of the creation of this company.
And since the mid-1920, our children have been "fed" with these animated speaking cows, dancing chickens, singing pigs etc. This so-called family-oriented entertainment is designed so cunningly that our children are led to believe that all animals are intelligent creatures who are capable to love and have feelings just like we humans: In some cases these animal animations are even more intelligent than the human animations.
Generation after generation has been subjected to this systematic brainwashing.

This secret organization has of course become larger and financially stronger since the mid-1920, and now it has countless of companies that make these "brainwashing series" to corrupt our children: And now the "brainwashed children" sit at their computer and create these intelligent animal animations they have learned to love and admire. These "brainwashed children" have probable never seen a live animal, and thus have no idea how stupid animals really are.

This means that the boost in animal rights activism we see nowadays, is a product of this systematic brainwashing that has been going on for decades. In reality, the avarage Animal rights activist, who thinks that the wrapped-in-plastic-ham-sandwich he bought in the store is something that grows on trees, has become just as stupid as the animals.

The question is: Who is behind this secret organization?! What could they possible gain by doing this?!
I must admit that I honestly don't know who is doing this: For a brief moment I thought that it might be the Jehuvah Witless and their crazy beliefs on utopia on earth where the 144000 people live in peace and harmony with all animals. But a conspiracy of this magnitude requires some brain capacity and rational thinking, and I seriously doubt that there are people with such properties within the Jehuvah Witless organization.
No, I think the Witness of Jehov'a's are not the kind of people for do such thing as these animals's rights. I was a Jehová girl until no so very long time ago and is no a organizacion that is interesting for this although is true that what you say of the brains' washings because is a sect and a dangerous one too because is all total obedience and obeying and loyalness and some things like this but definite sure no for animal hippy protectors.

There is a lot of sects there and some is more dangerouses that others.
Stay away of them because is no safe sects. Really. Unsafe sects will kill you.




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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-18-2011, 06:15 AM

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Nonsense. God gave us animals to kill as we see fit. It's in the very first chapter of the Bible.

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

The last time Pastor Zeke and I went on safari, this wild cat charged us. What would you have us do? Let this beast rip us to shreds?

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This is exactly what I spoke about in the "orgasms" thread. Just because you have dominion over another beast, doesn't mean you should kill animals or torture them. Your way of thinking is shallow, you need to peel open the banana to actually know what it is. Similarly, you need to understand what the Bible is saying by going deeper.

Just because, you have dominion over your baby boy or girl, or your subordinate at work, doesn't mean you are going to kill them or dominate them.
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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-18-2011, 07:35 AM

Brother Harold Porter I can clearly see that God was with you and Pastor Zeke on the safari. What other thing would explain the magnificent bounty? Well, nothing would!

Even the God's words tell you to hunt your own food:
Proverbs 12:27:
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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-18-2011, 07:40 AM

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Nonsense. God gave us animals to kill as we see fit. It's in the very first chapter of the Bible.

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

The last time Pastor Zeke and I went on safari, this wild cat charged us. What would you have us do? Let this beast rip us to shreds?

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if we kill an animal we are suppose to use it to its full extent not show it as a trophy! When you stepped on the lions territory you asked for it! the lion is protecting what is his just like you would... going on to peoples property without consent gets you shot... walking onto a lions territory gets you attacked..
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Default Re: Animals have no rights! - 03-18-2011, 09:40 AM

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This is exactly what I spoke about in the "orgasms" thread. Just because you have dominion over another beast, doesn't mean you should kill animals or torture them. Your way of thinking is shallow, you need to peel open the banana to actually know what it is. Similarly, you need to understand what the Bible is saying by going deeper.

Just because, you have dominion over your baby boy or girl, or your subordinate at work, doesn't mean you are going to kill them or dominate them.
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if we kill an animal we are suppose to use it to its full extent not show it as a trophy! When you stepped on the lions territory you asked for it! the lion is protecting what is his just like you would... going on to peoples property without consent gets you shot... walking onto a lions territory gets you attacked..
Sadly these posts prove that the conspiracy theory about the systematic brainwashing of our children is more than just a theory.

The authors of these above posts, call it "animal torture" and "animal territory"....this is ridiculous! There is no such thing as "animal torture" or "animal territory". How is it possible to torture a property?! "Oh, I think I'll torture my car today...." Stupid right?!
And "animal territory".... I won't even comment on that one...ridiculous.

It's simple: "These beasts are dilivered into our hands, so we are allowed to do with them as we see fit". In other words: They are our property!

But I am afraid that these two are not capable to understand this; these two have clearly been subjected to the brainwash their whole life, and are therefore unable to think clearly. They are Animal rights activists and Eco-terrorists...and the worst thing is that they don't even know it themselfs.

Jesus words come to my mind: "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do." Luke 23:34

I will now pray that the Lord will give me the strenght, wit and patience to help these two find the right path.


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